The Longbeard #4s pattern great, I used them last year and they put a gobbler down with no flopping. I'm trying to get away from them this year because of how tight they are up close and how inconsistent poi can be with those shells. Personally id hunt with the patterns you got from the Fed HW7s over the LB#4s. Better pellet count, better 20" overall pattern, and more forgiving up close. And I promise the bird won't know the difference those 7s hit hard.