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Quote from: eggshell on June 20, 2023, 03:32:53 PMcome on happy....what the heck is this G.E.D. stuff. your a G.O.A.T.S your already post graduate level. This is not the rookie league, man. Run three times up the mountain and back and then we'll consider your pentence.
Quote from: Paulmyr on June 20, 2023, 07:47:26 PMImagine if CRP wasn't passed in the 1985 farm bill allowing land owners to get paid for planting pine trees as a water quality and erosion control effort with the promise of it being a cash crop when then forest matured. The initial stages of the plantings was great for wild turkeys as it provided excellent habitat for nesting and brood rearing and coincided with the boom many states seen in their turkey populations. But as the pine trees matured the bottom fell out of the market. Land owners no longer managed the trees as a cash crop by thinning and allowing sunlight to get to the forest floor. The plantings have become a wasteland as far as turkey habitat and the maturity of these forests also coincides with the decline in turkey populations in many states. Also the bill provided payments to land converted to non native grassy habitat by allowing mat forming pasture grasses like fescue and bermuda to be planted causing millions of acres of possible brood rearing habitat to go to the wayside also in the name of water quality and erosion control. Many state, city, and county agencies also have these types of mat forming grasses on their lists of preferred plantings for erosion control.Imagine if millions of acres of private land wasn't converted to these polt rearing/ turkey wastelands. Imagine if govt agencies weren't planting this garbage on the side of roads, interstates, and other construction projects where erosion control was needed. Imagine if all this acreage was planted in forbes like clover and other polt friendly plants. So it seems in the name of protecting the environment it's possible great harm has been done to wild turkeys and other ground nesting birds like the Bobwhite quail.Imagine if people were aware of this.
Quote from: sasquatch1 on June 21, 2023, 06:12:49 AMQuote from: Paulmyr on June 20, 2023, 07:47:26 PMImagine if CRP wasn't passed in the 1985 farm bill allowing land owners to get paid for planting pine trees as a water quality and erosion control effort with the promise of it being a cash crop when then forest matured. The initial stages of the plantings was great for wild turkeys as it provided excellent habitat for nesting and brood rearing and coincided with the boom many states seen in their turkey populations. But as the pine trees matured the bottom fell out of the market. Land owners no longer managed the trees as a cash crop by thinning and allowing sunlight to get to the forest floor. The plantings have become a wasteland as far as turkey habitat and the maturity of these forests also coincides with the decline in turkey populations in many states. Also the bill provided payments to land converted to non native grassy habitat by allowing mat forming pasture grasses like fescue and bermuda to be planted causing millions of acres of possible brood rearing habitat to go to the wayside also in the name of water quality and erosion control. Many state, city, and county agencies also have these types of mat forming grasses on their lists of preferred plantings for erosion control.Imagine if millions of acres of private land wasn't converted to these polt rearing/ turkey wastelands. Imagine if govt agencies weren't planting this garbage on the side of roads, interstates, and other construction projects where erosion control was needed. Imagine if all this acreage was planted in forbes like clover and other polt friendly plants. So it seems in the name of protecting the environment it's possible great harm has been done to wild turkeys and other ground nesting birds like the Bobwhite quail.Imagine if people were aware of this.Good portion probably would've became crops which aren't very good either. Maybe worse in some waysSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Quote from: WV Flopper on June 21, 2023, 10:30:58 PM And, if the ground wasn't subsidized it very well could ha e been sold and "Improved". Could have been proved by malls, shopping centers, housing developments.... Pines are far better than some options.
Quote from: WV Flopper on June 21, 2023, 10:30:58 PM And, if the ground wasn't subsidized it very well could ha e been sold and "Improved". Could have been proved by malls, shopping centers, housing developments....