Now that I have him how do I cure everything?
I got the beard out and know to borax it but not for how long.
I still have the legs with just the feathers removed up to the ball joint and want to remove the spurs, what is the proper method and will it wait one more day? I am pretty sore
I removed the tail but I really think I did it wrong, the area is huge but I had not clue what I was doing. I will post the pictures of that shortly.
Everything is in bags in the refrigerator by the way, just need to do it as the girlfriend does not like having a turkey leg trying to shake hands with her every time she opens the door.
Thanks.
I borax tail feathers and beard for a month or maybe a little longer like a month and a half. Sometimes the beard doesn't need much borax at all.
On the tail feathers I spread them out and put borax on the base and I use a good bit also.
I hope this helps
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Quote from: mmorgan9812 on May 19, 2019, 03:04:04 PM
I borax tail feathers and beard for a month or maybe a little longer like a month and a half. Sometimes the beard doesn't need much borax at all.
On the tail feathers I spread them out and put borax on the base and I use a good bit also.
I hope this helps
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Yes it does, my GF is not going to be happy with me at all as I have to do this in the apartment and she does not want to see anything at all.
Oh do I need to put fresh Borax on it every day or just dump on a pile of it on them like in these pictures and then leave it? If I do have to add more every day do I scrape the old Borax away each day and then add new? How do I remove the hooks from the legs and how do I cure those? I also have both wings and I want to cure those, but I have no clue what to do there at all, do I take them off the bone? I have each complete wing broken at the joint where it connects to the body. How many boxes of Borax will I need? Thanks and sorry to be a nag.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 19, 2019, 03:22:12 PM
Oh do I need to put fresh Borax on it every day or just dump on a pile of it on them like in these pictures and then leave it? If I do have to add more every day do I scrape the old Borax away each day and then add new? How do I remove the hooks from the legs and how do I cure those? I also have both wings and I want to cure those, but I have no clue what to do there at all, do I take them off the bone? I have each complete wing broken at the joint where it connects to the body. How many boxes of Borax will I need? Thanks and sorry to be a nag.
Put it on and leave it. About taking the hooks off and wings I have no clue. I like to eat about everything and I keep the fan and beard.
No are no bother at all! Congratulations by the way, nice bird!
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Quote from: mmorgan9812 on May 19, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 19, 2019, 03:22:12 PM
Oh do I need to put fresh Borax on it every day or just dump on a pile of it on them like in these pictures and then leave it? If I do have to add more every day do I scrape the old Borax away each day and then add new? How do I remove the hooks from the legs and how do I cure those? I also have both wings and I want to cure those, but I have no clue what to do there at all, do I take them off the bone? I have each complete wing broken at the joint where it connects to the body. How many boxes of Borax will I need? Thanks and sorry to be a nag.
Put it on and leave it. About taking the hooks off and wings I have no clue. I like to eat about everything and I keep the fan and beard.
No are no bother at all! Congratulations by the way, nice bird!
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We or I will be taking the legs and freezing them once I get the hooks off, then I will find a recipe I can have on my diet and do it in the crock pot.
I find the wing feathers to be so pretty and I have seen that Primos Wing Thing and though I do not want them for that reason I want to be able to display them on the wall kinda like that.
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Quote from: mmorgan9812 on May 19, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 19, 2019, 03:22:12 PM
Oh do I need to put fresh Borax on it every day or just dump on a pile of it on them like in these pictures and then leave it? If I do have to add more every day do I scrape the old Borax away each day and then add new? How do I remove the hooks from the legs and how do I cure those? I also have both wings and I want to cure those, but I have no clue what to do there at all, do I take them off the bone? I have each complete wing broken at the joint where it connects to the body. How many boxes of Borax will I need? Thanks and sorry to be a nag.
Put it on and leave it. About taking the hooks off and wings I have no clue. I like to eat about everything and I keep the fan and beard.
No are no bother at all! Congratulations by the way, nice bird!
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We or I will be taking the legs and freezing them once I get the hooks off, then I will find a recipe I can have on my diet and do it in the crock pot.
I find the wing feathers to be so pretty and I have seen that Primos Wing Thing and though I do not want them for that reason I want to be able to display them on the wall kinda like that.
I understand completely. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
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Quote from: mmorgan9812 on May 19, 2019, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 19, 2019, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: mmorgan9812 on May 19, 2019, 03:29:23 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on May 19, 2019, 03:22:12 PM
Oh do I need to put fresh Borax on it every day or just dump on a pile of it on them like in these pictures and then leave it? If I do have to add more every day do I scrape the old Borax away each day and then add new? How do I remove the hooks from the legs and how do I cure those? I also have both wings and I want to cure those, but I have no clue what to do there at all, do I take them off the bone? I have each complete wing broken at the joint where it connects to the body. How many boxes of Borax will I need? Thanks and sorry to be a nag.
Put it on and leave it. About taking the hooks off and wings I have no clue. I like to eat about everything and I keep the fan and beard.
No are no bother at all! Congratulations by the way, nice bird!
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We or I will be taking the legs and freezing them once I get the hooks off, then I will find a recipe I can have on my diet and do it in the crock pot.
I find the wing feathers to be so pretty and I have seen that Primos Wing Thing and though I do not want them for that reason I want to be able to display them on the wall kinda like that.
I understand completely. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
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I have had this since before my car accident in 2001 and was thinking of using this for the last however many years, now looking at it I am not sure if it is what I want though.
I think it will look good. Never know till you try
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Just use a hacksaw and cut the leg on each side of the spur. Peel the skin off, use a small nail to push out the yellow bone marrow out of the hole in the bone. I use 220 grit sandpaper to clean up the bone after they've had borax on them for a while.
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Quote from: mmorgan9812 on May 19, 2019, 05:35:40 PM
I think it will look good. Never know till you try
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I guess I can always remove them if I do not like it and try something else.
Quote from: BigSlam51 on May 19, 2019, 06:39:01 PM
Just use a hacksaw and cut the leg on each side of the spur. Peel the skin off, use a small nail to push out the yellow bone marrow out of the hole in the bone. I use 220 grit sandpaper to clean up the bone after they've had borax on them for a while.
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I will have the ask the guy downstairs if I can use his if I buy him some new blades. I have some of those pruning shares with the long wooden handles I was going to use but I can't seem to find them anywhere.
I would be careful using the pruning shears next to the bone that the spur is actually at. It's ok to use to remove the whole leg but as others have stated, use a hacksaw on both sides of the spur
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Quote from: tomstopper on May 22, 2019, 03:53:05 PM
I would be careful using the pruning shears next to the bone that the spur is actually at. It's ok to use to remove the whole leg but as others have stated, use a hacksaw on both sides of the spur
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I could not find the pruning shares so they are out. I did talk with the guy downstairs and he is going to let me use his hacksaw. I offered to buy him some new blades for it as I am sure he will not want to use that one but he said not to worry about.
Thanks for the advise, I need all of it I can get.
These are cleaned up and will finish cleaning them soon, but it gives you a way to see how they get done.
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They will end up like these soon.
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Quote from: Yelper on May 22, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
These are cleaned up and will finish cleaning them soon, but it gives you a way to see how they get done.
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They will end up like these soon.
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Thanks bud, the visual certainly does help. I am also going to try to do something with the shotshell I got him with, I also have the slug shell from my first deer.
Got the spurs cut off, wanted to leave the scales on but things did not go well so they are off. Now I guess I have to let them dry overnight and put them in borax? Had a hard time cutting them, they are longer than others I have seen but I guess I can get a dremel tool and grind them down some.
You'll want to flesh the meat off the fan without seperating the thin membrane that holds the quills. I use a pairing knife and those brass/steel gun cleaning brushes to scape. Then spread the fan out on your drying board and pin in place. Generously cover the fleshed area with borax and let dry. Mine dries within 2 weeks but i flesh the hell out of it. i'd guess that the more meat you leave and a humid region can prolong the process, in which case i'd change out the borax during that time. If you have your mounting plaque, use it as a guide when pinning the fan.
Quote from: Jester87 on May 28, 2019, 03:40:19 PM
You'll want to flesh the meat off the fan without seperating the thin membrane that holds the quills. I use a pairing knife and those brass/steel gun cleaning brushes to scape. Then spread the fan out on your drying board and pin in place. Generously cover the fleshed area with borax and let dry. Mine dries within 2 weeks but i flesh the hell out of it. i'd guess that the more meat you leave and a humid region can prolong the process, in which case i'd change out the borax during that time. If you have your mounting plaque, use it as a guide when pinning the fan.
Thank you much for the advise, I have it all set and drying now, going to go at least a month, maybe two to be safe. How long do I leave beard and spurs in borax?
You're doing great! Here's a photo of what it would look like with the red meat removed and that thin yellow membrane holding the feathers together. I use a stiff metal brush, plus a razor and pairing knife. In particular, those parts cleaning brushes they sell at walmart or hardware stores. They're stiffer than the pet brush and about the size of a toothbrush. Don't overthink the borax. It doesnt hurt anything to leave it covered. Dry time will depend on how much meat is left, your humidity levels, etc. If you check it and its still damp, cover with new borax. I'm about to do mine this weekend!
Quote from: Jester87 on May 29, 2019, 12:20:54 AM
You're doing great! Here's a photo of what it would look like with the red meat removed and that thin yellow membrane holding the feathers together. I use a stiff metal brush, plus a razor and pairing knife. In particular, those parts cleaning brushes they sell at walmart or hardware stores. They're stiffer than the pet brush and about the size of a toothbrush. Don't overthink the borax. It doesnt hurt anything to leave it covered. Dry time will depend on how much meat is left, your humidity levels, etc. If you check it and its still damp, cover with new borax. I'm about to do mine this weekend!
Well you did much better than I did. The other thing you did that I did not was remove the bone, I was told not to worry about it.
Actually that's a photo I found online. I've never taken pics of the process, but they look just like that once all the meat is removed. I remove the bone. Its cleaner and easier to level and fit in plaques. The more unnecessary meat and stuff you remove, the better chances it will preserve and not get bugs or rot in the future.
Quote from: Jester87 on May 29, 2019, 01:27:40 AM
Actually that's a photo I found online. I've never taken pics of the process, but they look just like that once all the meat is removed. I remove the bone. Its cleaner and easier to level and fit in plaques. The more unnecessary meat and stuff you remove, the better chances it will preserve and not get bugs or rot in the future.
Bummer, I can't remove the bone now.
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Quote from: Yelper on May 22, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
These are cleaned up and will finish cleaning them soon, but it gives you a way to see how they get done.
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They will end up like these soon.
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These look awesome
How long should I leave beard and spurs in Borax?
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 04, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
How long should I leave beard and spurs in Borax?
Beard and spurs should be dry by now
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Quote from: BigSlam51 on June 04, 2019, 04:32:53 AM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 04, 2019, 12:03:32 AM
How long should I leave beard and spurs in Borax?
Beard and spurs should be dry by now
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Okay, thanks. Beard got in first day but spurs were not to long ago so by that I think I will give it another week. Unfortunately I will not be able to clean them up for a few weeks anyway, I have shoulder surgery on Friday. I was going to build another call kit but decided not to get it because of the same reason.
Quote from: Yelper on May 22, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
These are cleaned up and will finish cleaning them soon, but it gives you a way to see how they get done.
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They will end up like these soon.
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These are some of the best looking spurs I've seen, would you care to share your process with us?
Everything is still in Borax, I wanted to be good and sure the thing was dry. I bought a coping saw and have to get that bone out of the tail or I can't mount it the way I want. A friend is going to come over and do that for me, I do not trust my hands enough for that job, guess I will have to put back under borax again.