Been talking on several post about the unacceptable recoil from Knight's recommended load of 100gr + 2 1/2oz shot. I played around enough with a 70gr black powder, 2oz plastic shot cup #6 shot and light cardboard overshot to feel it more than enough. Hunted a Florida three day quota hunt and took this Osceola yesterday. No problems. It was a 20 yard shot but this birds head was pretty well pulverized. No reason to take the beating that 100gr gives IMO.(//)
BTW - that's not snow northern boys. It is called sugar sand ;D
Nice job! The TK2000 is a lot of fun to hunt with.
Nice job, my brother has been carrying his. No luck for him yet.
2.5oz of shot is an enormous amount of weight! That's like shoving an 1100gr bullet with the shotcup included! :o No doubt that's gonna kick like an absolute mule. Can't believe Knight actually recommends that load?
Congrats on the bird!
Huge congrats. I loaded mine to the letter like they recommended and the patterns were huge blobs. This was with their shot cup. I bought some turkey ranger wads from ballistic products and cut them leaving 1/4" above the base. 80 grains 777 and 2oz #6 magshot and finally got a decent pattern. The recoil on that thing is insane.
I got good patterns with the 100 gr Goex BP + 2 1/2oz #6 lead, using Knights plastic wad and foam overshot - BUT - the recoil was so extreme it was becoming a chore to shoot. The 70gr Goex BP + 2oz #6, using a cut down plastic wad and a light thin cardboard overshot is much more tolerable and seems to work well within normal ranges. Good enough is good enough.
Congrats!
Good to see someone get a bird with bp.
Congrats on a nice bird.
I have never shot anything less then thec100gr 777. Did try the max 120gr but that was a little much.
Awesome bird its gotta be awesome to have that smoke clear and see a gobbler flopping on the ground. i might have to start messing with tk2000. i have a knight disc extreme, and a Knight wolverine that i use for deer.
Quote from: boomer on April 03, 2017, 08:34:51 PM
Congrats on a nice bird.
I have never shot anything less then thec100gr 777. Did try the max 120gr but that was a little much.
Thanks - my owners manual shows 120 max for BP and 100 max for 777. Some of the U tube videos I've watched are funny. Boom followed by "******". Agree with the ****** :z-guntootsmiley: 120gr - scared just thinking about it.
I have Knight wads as well as TPS 3.5" wads as well a very nice and accurate digital scale. With lead of any size common for turkey we aren't shooting 2.5oz boys. I've weighed all feasible lead offerings and it's about 2 1/8-2 1/4oz with a full shotcup level to the top of wad. I shoot #6 ITX Turkey Trauma13 and it's right at 2 3/8oz. I've had good luck with everything I've shot in my TK and although I've only killed a couple birds with it but i find 90-95gr of ffg T7 tends to have a lil tighter patterns and the 5-10gr shaved off max recommendation really tames the recoil down. Hope this helps. Congrats on the turkey joey46
Thanks for the insight. I'm assuming I had been shooting 2 1/2oz since I filled Knight's 3 1/2" wad with #6 lead and that is Knight's claim. The load I'm using now I'm assuming is 2oz since it is measured in a T/C plastic wad that claims when filled holds that 2 oz amount. I've always used Goex BP using T/C measures. Now that my Florida season is over I'll play a little more when possible and maybe try to reduce the shot down to 1 3/4oz. The best shooting non muzzleloading factory loads I've ever found are 1 3/4oz. These in both a WW HV (a big kicker) at 1300FPS and a Hevi 13 (very mild) at 1080FPS. I pattern this gun and all my turkey guns at 30 yards. Thanks again.
No problem. Another thing i was gonna add something i did that seemed to pattern well out of the TK. I have 25lb bags of mag #4, #5, and #6 lead. I take an empty film canister and scoop out three canisters full to the top of #4, two of #5, and another one and a half of the #6 shot and pour all of those into a quart freezer bag. Mix it up anyway you'd like, scoop out a unslit wads worth of shot, pour down barrel, and cover with os. It's a deadly load that seems to pattern well with the #6 filling in any gaps. It's a good all-around load with the 90-95gr ffg T7 i shoot. I'd assume Pyrodex or real black would be just as good? Try it in your experimentations and see what ya think?
:sounds like a killer load. I have some 5s and 6s. Might do a little mix of that. Maybe 2 parts 5 to 1 part 6. Never was a fan of 4s in factory shells but often shot 5s. Maybe time to try something new.
If it aint broke don't fix it. Now that said these guns will change everytime a variable changes in the way of patterning. Be it different powders, shot size, depth and number of slits in a wad, wad type, powder charge, etc. I have a 1' thick block of wood with a 3/4' hole drilled through it. I take unslit 3.5' TPS wad and an "X" cutter fashioned from two razor blades and push it down till it bottoms out on top of wood and I end up with a 4 petal wad slit 1" from base. That seems to be what my gun patterns with the best with the ffg T7 90-95gr charge, shot, os cards I use?