60 degrees and lasered 40 yds 3.5" shells. This is shooting off a bench with lead sled. 2" black sq is centered with front sight. looks like POI is five inches to right and 2 inches high
Here is hevi choke 680 and 3.5" magblends 5,6,7 40 yds and 60 degrees
Last one is JEBS 655 and hevi magblends 5,6,7 3.5" shells 40 yds and 60 degrees
The patterns look nice! I asked a question on your other posting about the POA / POI and choke - shell combo. It looks as if the Jeb's choke is shooting right (as you pointed out). Have you asked to send it back for a replacement? I have found a choke can cause the POA / POI to be off. I have gotten a replacement (same choke constriction and maker) and my problem was solved. It never hurts to try.
Good luck
what gun is this? Mike
This is a Beretta A400. Forcercon1 I have a 660 coming from Jebs and just ordered a IC 670. If those don't pattern to the right you are on to something. I bought an xtrema 2 and really got frustrated with it shooting low and left. Put sights on it but never got over it being that bad and that expensive. Sold it to a duck hunter cheap. It did shoot federal steel better but still low and left. Rick
The A400 has put up some very good patterns. It did hold the record on our range until a 887 bumped it off. Now they do have a poa/poi problem.
I was thinking about buying an Extrema 2 from a guy and I shot it and it was way low and left. I looked at the barrel where it meets the receiver and it wouldn't line up straight. Gave it back to him and went on my way. Close friend of mine just got the A400 and it doesn't shoot poa. There's no way I'm spending that kind of money on something that I have to add something to or modify to get it to shoot correctly... I could understand on a $500 gun but not on a $1600+
I changed the shims in the back of the A400 and POA and POI are the same now. Seeing much less of the barrel which is the way it should be. Little bit of a process with the Kick off. Youtube has good videos on how to change these!!
Shooting the Jeb's Choke and looking into a Sumtoy.
Thanks BennieGobler on the shims. I have done that with a Xtrema 2 I owned. Taylorjones20 have him get with bobby at JEBS chokes. They will bend a barrel if I would have known that I would have never got rid of Xtrema 2. Lord knows I took a loss on that gun and really liked how it shoulder. If my a400 don't straighten up with shims or chokes I will send mine there.
From your photos, the "Hevi Choke" seemed to have shot a good POA / POI, the "Jebs" shot the same right and slightly high.
You might considering a replacement Jebs choke, Sumtoy, Patternmaster, Etc... prior to bending the barrel. Does your standard loads / chokes shoot POA / POI. Keep in mind, it seems, Beretta's & Benelli's, shoot a little high POA / POI. This allows for the target to float over a (6 O'clock POA).
Really good even pattern!!!!
Got to pattern the IC 670 and really like how the Winchester LB #6 pattern
Not really impressed with this choke and magblends. You can see the WLB are clear winner. I have adjusted shins in gun and will try that Friday in Hevi magblends. Thanks for the replies Rick
Get out there and kill a bird with the LB #6's!! Good Job Ricky!!
We got one yesterday with that exact combo. My son Dalton is 14 and we got to enjoy Arkansas youth season over the weekend.
Quote from: rickyb on April 08, 2015, 07:19:36 PM
Thanks BennieGobler on the shims. I have done that with a Xtrema 2 I owned. Taylorjones20 have him get with bobby at JEBS chokes. They will bend a barrel if I would have known that I would have never got rid of Xtrema 2. Lord knows I took a loss on that gun and really liked how it shoulder. If my a400 don't straighten up with shims or chokes I will send mine there.
Been hunting with the Xtrema 1 and 2 for allot of years. The POA/ POI is absolutely dead on with all of the factory chokes in the gun. We tested both guns extensively. When I would choke the gun with .660-.670 turkey chokes it would shoot low left. Tested 5-6 turkey chokes including Kicks, Pure Gold, Rhino (Quality Chokes). Both xtrema's required adjustable sights (tru-glo) and it wasn't a major deal to sight in. The guns will turn 300+ with Hevi 7's and 333 is the best pattern to date. I almost got rid of the first gun until a gunsmith told me to test all the factory chokes first and see if it was a barrel problem. Turkey killing machines.
Same thing with both my 870 21" and winchester LB's. They both shoot high left with the 3" shells. Tru glo sights on one and Bushnell Trophy on the other. Easy sight in.
Of all the turkey guns I have had over the last 25 years only two have held POA/POI after putting turkey chokes and high powered turkey loads through them. Beretta Urika/ Pure Gold .670 and Remington 870sm/ Ventilator .655. These guns have 26-28" bbl's.
Quote from: rickyb on April 07, 2015, 09:06:48 PM
This is a Beretta A400. Forcercon1 I have a 660 coming from Jebs and just ordered a IC 670. If those don't pattern to the right you are on to something. I bought an xtrema 2 and really got frustrated with it shooting low and left. Put sights on it but never got over it being that bad and that expensive. Sold it to a duck hunter cheap. It did shoot federal steel better but still low and left. Rick
I feel like we had the same experience on the xtrema 2
Quote from: Longshanks on April 18, 2015, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: rickyb on April 08, 2015, 07:19:36 PM
Thanks BennieGobler on the shims. I have done that with a Xtrema 2 I owned. Taylorjones20 have him get with bobby at JEBS chokes. They will bend a barrel if I would have known that I would have never got rid of Xtrema 2. Lord knows I took a loss on that gun and really liked how it shoulder. If my a400 don't straighten up with shims or chokes I will send mine there.
Been hunting with the Xtrema 1 and 2 for allot of years. The POA/ POI is absolutely dead on with all of the factory chokes in the gun. We tested both guns extensively. When I would choke the gun with .660-.670 turkey chokes it would shoot low left. Tested 5-6 turkey chokes including Kicks, Pure Gold, Rhino (Quality Chokes). Both xtrema's required adjustable sights (tru-glo) and it wasn't a major deal to sight in. The guns will turn 300+ with Hevi 7's and 333 is the best pattern to date. I almost got rid of the first gun until a gunsmith told me to test all the factory chokes first and see if it was a barrel problem. Turkey killing machines.
Same thing with both my 870 21" and winchester LB's. They both shoot high left with the 3" shells. Tru glo sights on one and Bushnell Trophy on the other. Easy sight in.
Of all the turkey guns I have had over the last 25 years only two have held POA/POI after putting turkey chokes and high powered turkey loads through them. Beretta Urika/ Pure Gold .670 and Remington 870sm/ Ventilator .655. These guns have 26-28" bbl's.
I have a urika al 391 and a jebs that shoots poa. I had a 24" 870 I should have never sold. It shot poa with a hevi shot choke. Also have a baikal mp18 thst shoots dead on with the bead and a sum toy choke
Those are some dynamite patterns.
Congrats on the bird! Looks like a good one