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Thoughts on the women soccer players kneeling before the game, then getting their backsides handed to them. lol. Not the place and time to address your own agenda. Represent our country or move out!!!

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I didnt watch the idiots because of the "activist". I'm glad they lost!

Who watches soccer? Bout right up there with watching knitting in my opinion.

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Any athlete or coach who can't stand for the national anthem and salute the flag should not be allowed to represent our country. They should be told that prior to their involvement. Love it, respect it or leave it. Simple as that.

Has anyone noticed other than me that when you go down the road and see an American flag flying it's a good chance you're seeing a Rep/Con residence as opposed to a Dem/Lib residence? Ridiculous.

Could not agree more. I did not watch this time around since that  piece of trash is on the team.

Any athlete or coach who can't stand for the national anthem and salute the flag should not be allowed to represent our country. They should be told that prior to their involvement. Love it, respect it or leave it. Simple as that.

Maybe it's the Tennessee whiskey, but that is about the most Communist statement I have ever seen. So, your telling everyone with your statement that the life, since a child, the devotion, blood, sweat,  tears, money, each of these individuals have giving from themselves and family to be successful in the sport they excell at should UNCONDITIONALLY support the United States?

Every hear of free speech? There is more to it than the 2nd, alot, read it. Don't just use what benefits you in life, there is way more to it than that. If you don't understand it, read it again. It is for all, even people that are not happy with their government at the time.

Quote from: Turkeyman on July 22, 2021, 04:30:30 PM
Any athlete or coach who can't stand for the national anthem and salute the flag should not be allowed to represent our country. They should be told that prior to their involvement. Love it, respect it or leave it. Simple as that.

:agreed:

There is Women's soccer? 

Who knew, lol

Quote from: WV Flopper on July 22, 2021, 09:36:31 PM
Any athlete or coach who can't stand for the national anthem and salute the flag should not be allowed to represent our country. They should be told that prior to their involvement. Love it, respect it or leave it. Simple as that.

Maybe it's the Tennessee whiskey, but that is about the most Communist statement I have ever seen. So, your telling everyone with your statement that the life, since a child, the devotion, blood, sweat,  tears, money, each of these individuals have giving from themselves and family to be successful in the sport they excell at should UNCONDITIONALLY support the United States?

Every hear of free speech? There is more to it than the 2nd, alot, read it. Don't just use what benefits you in life, there is way more to it than that. If you don't understand it, read it again. It is for all, even people that are not happy with their government at the time.

When you decide to devote your life to developing skills and use them to your benefit, for example N F L football players, then I don't give a damn what you do. I don't have to watch you or support you. If there's enough other sorry POS with the same mentality that can support you, then more power to you.

When you decide to take a position to represent the United States of America, then yeah, I expect you to stand up for the anthem and salute. If you can't do that, take a seat in the stands or watch on tv. Those folks are sent to those games to represent our country.

This is gonna get me off on a tangent, but if folks don't see that our country is as weak as it's ever been then they got their head in sand. It's this weakness that will allow us to be destroyed from within. All the countries that hate us are standing back laughing at us. I fear it's too late to save. We've allowed too much of this to creep in as normal or acceptable, a clear sign the nation is beyond conserving. The next 50 years will be interesting. We will be reduced to a has been.

History repeats itself. We are a mirror image of the crown we tried to escape.

I've always hated soccer, felt it was a woman's sport. And from the looks of it, I guess it kinda is haha

Yea I'm not about it at all, I've always felt it was not the athletes position to get political. As most people watch sports to take a break from all that stuff.

I also don't think someone should be representing the country if they hate it. Not saying they don't have the constitutional right to feel how they feel. But I believe that when they're on the Job they shouldn't be allowed to express those opinions. It's also ironic considering this country is what's giving them the opportunity to do what they're doing, and have those rights.


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Mighty slippery slope some folks are edging towards here.....
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I think I'll leave it at that,...and stick with discussing turkey hunting...   ;D :angel9:

What slippery slope would that be? It is real simple, you are at the Olympics to represent your country, not any other private entity. As such, you should have the respect for that country, it's flag, and it's citizens. If you do not have this, then why did you accept a position on the team? It isn't a free speech issue, at all.

I think it's hilarious.  These woke Karen's are so repressed they play a game for a living. Pretty sure most women in the world can't even dream about the same opportunity. They have a world wide stag to advocate for woman's rights and play a for a country who leads in this area. Instead of shining a light on that fact they chose to thumb thier nose at the very nation that leads the world in advocating women's rights and rights of humans in every aspect.
Maybe if they concentrated on playing soccer instead of making political statements before the game they may have been able to score atleast 1 goal.
Team dissention comes to mind. Do you honestly think thier is cohesion in the locker room between the players who love thier country and these woke players who show distain for the U.S.?

My opinion of them is pretty bad, so i will leave it to that... I don't want to get kicked off the forum.. GOD BLESS THE USA .... :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an

I played soccor in Europe for several years in my youth. It is an honerable game and a lot of fun to play or watch. I also enjoy baseball to the same extent and played it during high school. Soccor is more exciting than knitting (I think) but then I have never tried knitting.

We have always had activists and always will. Kneeling is just a way to gain attention and it works. I don't approve of the practice but then I see it as a political stunt. My concern is that our country is growing soft with all the chos these demonstrations are causing. We have some very serious issues both at home and abroad. Next to Turkey hunting and maybe deer hunting these should be the focus of our attention.   

Quote from: the Ward on July 24, 2021, 09:57:54 AM
What slippery slope would that be? It is real simple, you are at the Olympics to represent your country, not any other private entity. As such, you should have the respect for that country, it's flag, and it's citizens. If you do not have this, then why did you accept a position on the team? It isn't a free speech issue, at all.

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Quote from: the Ward on July 24, 2021, 09:57:54 AM
What slippery slope would that be? It is real simple, you are at the Olympics to represent your country, not any other private entity. As such, you should have the respect for that country, it's flag, and it's citizens. If you do not have this, then why did you accept a position on the team? It isn't a free speech issue, at all.

Well said Ward!!!!!  Slippery slope or not, it's time WE take a stand and open our mouths!!!!  They have a large audience to speak to and a large stage to play to.  It's time for us to RAISE our voices and not be SILENT!!! 

Quote from: bbcoach on July 24, 2021, 02:06:46 PM

Quote from: the Ward on July 24, 2021, 09:57:54 AM
What slippery slope would that be? It is real simple, you are at the Olympics to represent your country, not any other private entity. As such, you should have the respect for that country, it's flag, and it's citizens. If you do not have this, then why did you accept a position on the team? It isn't a free speech issue, at all.

Well said Ward!!!!!  Slippery slope or not, it's time WE take a stand and open our mouths!!!!  They have a large audience to speak to and a large stage to play to.  It's time for us to RAISE our voices and not be SILENT!!! 

:icon_thumright: Yes Sir, I agree with that 100%

Quote from: the Ward on July 24, 2021, 02:29:30 PM

Quote from: bbcoach on July 24, 2021, 02:06:46 PM

Quote from: the Ward on July 24, 2021, 09:57:54 AM
What slippery slope would that be? It is real simple, you are at the Olympics to represent your country, not any other private entity. As such, you should have the respect for that country, it's flag, and it's citizens. If you do not have this, then why did you accept a position on the team? It isn't a free speech issue, at all.

Well said Ward!!!!!  Slippery slope or not, it's time WE take a stand and open our mouths!!!!  They have a large audience to speak to and a large stage to play to.  It's time for us to RAISE our voices and not be SILENT!!! 

:icon_thumright: Yes Sir, I agree with that 100%

:agreed:

It's extremely fashionable in our country right now to hate the
United States. How many times have you heard politicians say, "America
was never that great to begin with", "America is a systemically racist
country", blah, blah, blah. I don't know about y'all, but I've about had
my fill of all this nonsense, from "Black Lies Matter" and their
Marxist ideology, "Critical Race Theory" and it's racism against white
people, to the suppression of our freedoms.

These "protests" are nothing but another fashionable form of America
"bashing". I don't care what you do on your own time, but not when
you're representing your country.

This country is in much worse shape than the turkey population.

"This country is in much worse shape than the turkey population."

Well said and there is certainly nothing wrong about raising ones voice!

"Well said and there is certainly nothing wrong about raising ones voice!"


That's the way it's always been in the past, but nowadays you might
get cancelled or labeled a racist if you have a different opinion and
raise your voice.

Something else I just thought of I haven't seen mentioned anywhere
else, is the way these "woke" athletes will perform.
I'm no athlete, but having watched a lot of Olympics I've seen many
instances of how it can help an athlete to draw upon their sense of pride
and love of country when he or she needs it most. Almost superhuman
efforts have resulted at times. How many times have you seen an athlete
win a Gold Medal with a personal best result, never to be reached again.

It's definitely not going to help you compete when you despise the
country you're representing. Sad times.

LOL.

Some of you guys have NO idea about a competitor. None!

They compete for their selves. If they lived on their own personal island in international waters and were as fast as the 3-4 top people in the world they would want to compete! Yea, being a competitor, they would unless injury, have some if not the best, personal performance every. That is very easy to rationalize.

99% of the Olympians are doing this for their self! Very probable that it's 100%. You really think these individuals are competing for any Democratic society? For any Society at that rate?

Three months from now at brunch with friends, do you think one of these medalists would say? "Yes,  the USA won silver in the 200m dash". Or do you think that same person would say, "I" won silver in the 200 m dash"?

Your kidding yourself if you think these people are preforming for you, their country, or any one but themselves. They are athletic competitors to the extreme. They have to win, and have a small window to accomplish that in.

The country these individuals reside in is fortunate enough to get their medal count beside their name.

A long ways away from the subject of turkey hunting, I think I will  check out of this one. Peace.

Quote from: WV Flopper on July 24, 2021, 06:33:19 PM
The country these individuals reside in is fortunate enough to get their medal count beside their name.

So these athletes aren't fortunate that they reside in counties, like the USA, with the money to support them so they can reach their full potential?

FWIW, I personally knew an Olympic swimmer from the 80's. She took great pride in representing her country. She wasn't some narcissistic lunatic that only cared about herself. 

"Your kidding yourself if you think these people are preforming for you, their country, or any one but themselves. They are athletic competitors to the extreme. They have to win, and have a small window to accomplish that in."

LOL!

I never said athletes were performing for me, their country, or anyone
but themselves. I said that I've seen instances of how it can help an
athlete to draw upon their sense of pride and love of country when
he or she needs it most.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think it's true. Read some stories of
Olympians and what they say about the feeling they get when they
represent their country.

Some of the most entitled people in this country, despise it. While some of the poorest embrace our freedom's

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Quote from: Paulmyr on July 24, 2021, 11:22:18 AM
I think it's hilarious.  These woke Karen's are so repressed they play a game for a living. Pretty sure most women in the world can't even dream about the same opportunity. They have a world wide stag to advocate for woman's rights and play a for a country who leads in this area. Instead of shining a light on that fact they chose to thumb thier nose at  the very  that leads the world in advocating women's rights and rights of humans in every aspect.
Maybe if they concentrated on playing soccer instead of making political statements before the game they may have been able to score atleast 1 goal.
Team dissention comes to mind. Do you honestly think thier is cohesion in the locker room between the players who love thier country and these woke players who show distain for the U.S.?

Some need to go live in North Korea, Iran, or any number of other countries.   Then come back in a year and tell us how bad the USA is.  They would be begging to return home within 24 hours. 

Quote from: Jimspur on July 24, 2021, 06:54:26 PM


"Your kidding yourself if you think these people are preforming for you, their country, or any one but themselves. They are athletic competitors to the extreme. They have to win, and have a small window to accomplish that in."

LOL!

I never said athletes were performing for me, their country, or anyone
but themselves. I said that I've seen instances of how it can help an
athlete to draw upon their sense of pride and love of country when
he or she needs it most.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think it's true. Read some stories of
Olympians and what they say about the feeling they get when they
represent their country.

The 1980 US hockey match versus the Russians would certain appear to illustrate what Jimspur said.

Quote from: NCL on July 25, 2021, 10:49:45 AM

Quote from: Jimspur on July 24, 2021, 06:54:26 PM


"Your kidding yourself if you think these people are preforming for you, their country, or any one but themselves. They are athletic competitors to the extreme. They have to win, and have a small window to accomplish that in."

LOL!

I never said athletes were performing for me, their country, or anyone
but themselves. I said that I've seen instances of how it can help an
athlete to draw upon their sense of pride and love of country when
he or she needs it most.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think it's true. Read some stories of
Olympians and what they say about the feeling they get when they
represent their country.

The 1980 US hockey match versus the Russians would certain appear to illustrate what Jimspur said.

NCL - there couldn't be a better example. I remember their families and
their fellow countrymen going absolutely crazy cheering them on!
A bunch of college kids beat the USSR national team with the best goalie
in the world.
The "Miracle On Ice" was truly amazing.

Yes.  They are there to represent our country.  If they can't do so with respect and love of country, compete in other competitions.  Period. 

Quote from: WV Flopper on July 22, 2021, 09:36:31 PM
Any athlete or coach who can't stand for the national anthem and salute the flag should not be allowed to represent our country. They should be told that prior to their involvement. Love it, respect it or leave it. Simple as that.

Maybe it's the Tennessee whiskey, but that is about the most Communist statement I have ever seen. So, your telling everyone with your statement that the life, since a child, the devotion, blood, sweat,  tears, money, each of these individuals have giving from themselves and family to be successful in the sport they excell at should UNCONDITIONALLY support the United States?

Every hear of free speech? There is more to it than the 2nd, alot, read it. Don't just use what benefits you in life, there is way more to it than that. If you don't understand it, read it again. It is for all, even people that are not happy with their government at the time.

Quote from: Jimspur on July 25, 2021, 10:58:25 AM

Quote from: NCL on July 25, 2021, 10:49:45 AM

Quote from: Jimspur on July 24, 2021, 06:54:26 PM


"Your kidding yourself if you think these people are preforming for you, their country, or any one but themselves. They are athletic competitors to the extreme. They have to win, and have a small window to accomplish that in."

LOL!

I never said athletes were performing for me, their country, or anyone
but themselves. I said that I've seen instances of how it can help an
athlete to draw upon their sense of pride and love of country when
he or she needs it most.
You're kidding yourself if you don't think it's true. Read some stories of
Olympians and what they say about the feeling they get when they
represent their country.

The 1980 US hockey match versus the Russians would certain appear to illustrate what Jimspur said.

NCL - there couldn't be a better example. I remember their families and
their fellow countrymen going absolutely crazy cheering them on!
A bunch of college kids beat the USSR national team with the best goalie
in the world.
The "Miracle On Ice" was truly amazing.

I am shocked how many people I run into that think they won the gold in that game, they did not, they went on to beat Finland for the gold medals. Darn, now I am going to have to go pull out the Miracle on Ice DVD and watch it tonight.

Here's the difference between the America hating commie players on the American soccer team. And what should be the attitude if your going to represent America.

Take a look at the footage of the young lady from Kentucky after wining the gold in the Foil competition,

Her coach hands her an American flag backwards, not only does she walk around with it but also has enough pride in her Country to take the time to turn it around and spread it out.

Congrats to Her for winning the gold and her attitude

I did see that three of the girls stood with their hands over their hearts, they should be given credit even if the rest of the team should be thrown out of the country.

Quote from: WV Flopper on July 24, 2021, 06:33:19 PM
LOL.

Some of you guys have NO idea about a competitor. None!

They compete for their selves. If they lived on their own personal island in international waters and were as fast as the 3-4 top people in the world they would want to compete! Yea, being a competitor, they would unless injury, have some if not the best, personal performance every. That is very easy to rationalize.

99% of the Olympians are doing this for their self! Very probable that it's 100%. You really think these individuals are competing for any Democratic society? For any Society at that rate?

Three months from now at brunch with friends, do you think one of these medalists would say? "Yes,  the USA won silver in the 200m dash". Or do you think that same person would say, "I" won silver in the 200 m dash"?

Your kidding yourself if you think these people are preforming for you, their country, or any one but themselves. They are athletic competitors to the extreme. They have to win, and have a small window to accomplish that in.

The country these individuals reside in is fortunate enough to get their medal count beside their name.

A long ways away from the subject of turkey hunting, I think I will  check out of this one. Peace.

No idea about being a competitor? 

I would venture to say that most folks who contribute to this forum compete every day.  Most of us learned to compete through athletics and carry that into our everyday lives.  Others learned to compete from the school of hard knocks.  Make no mistake - Life is a competition! 

I compete every day from 8-5 and then compete coaching high school athletics for another couple hours during the weekdays and 8-10 hours on a lot of weekends - 3 months a year.

Others here have covered the many, many stories of how great athletes took so much pride in competing for their country - I guess you missed all those?   

Free speech?  Absolutely agree with one exception - not while you are wearing USA on your jersey. 

Probably said more then I needed too - but that's my .02 worth.   

GOD BLESS THE USA  :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an

cwb04- I'm with you 100%!
I think when I said on page 2 of this thread that I'm no athlete, some
people might have gotten the wrong impression.
I may not be an athlete now at age 61, but I competed in motocross
for many years. 40 riders on the starting line going for the same piece
of real estate in the first turn.

Yeah - I think I have an idea about what being a competitor is too!

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Jimspur... at 61 you will remember standing in grade school before school started with your hand over your heart and saying the pledge of allegiance, TO THE FLAG..ONE NATION UNDER GOD...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. It says nothing about kneeling for your own agenda. There are other avenues for those things. As far as competition and others have mentioned...we compete everyday. It doesn't have to be on a field, or court. We can be at work or just life in general. Turkey hunters are all competitors. We all speak about the idiots who shoot someone while out hunting and it just makes our sport look bad. That is the same as kneeling. It just makes our country look bad and weak.  Represent your country in a respectful way, she's not always right, but she is yours!! Kneeling is for praying!

ONE  UNDER GOD, not little gods.  This is a  that believed in God when it was founded and that is so far from 1776 now.  Now it's about political agendas, sin of mankind and ME  PERIOD

I and many others have served in the military to protect our freedoms.  Those who choose to act in such a manner are fortunate that they live in America and can conduct themselves in such a way without fear of reprisals.
Sacrifices have been made by many so they are free to act like IDIOTS.  To all the IDIOTS out there that disrespect our flag and country you are welcome.

:smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an

It's not only the fault of those athletes disrespecting our flag and anthem it's also the fault of the US olympic committee. Athletes should have been told that, the first time you act that way, you'll be off the team and sent home. No exceptions...athletes or coaches.

I certainly do not understand the disrespect toward the flag and the country and probably never will. So many have done and sacrificed so much  to ensure the freedoms that allow those to be that disrespectful. My biggest pet peeve is a "double standard", those same players were demanding respect in the form of comparable salary a few years ago but now disrespect the flag, the country, and the military men and women that have fought so valiantly for that flag. Wonder what would happen if they were playing for Russia, China or North Korea?

Quote from: NCL on July 27, 2021, 12:48:09 PM
...Wonder what would happen if they were playing for Russia, China or North Korea?

That's a no-brainer...they wouldn't be playing and may be put to death, plus their families. Remember the Tiananmen Square Massacre? Pretty much says it all. All this "social injustice" and "racial injustice" crap we're going through in this country wouldn't be tolerated...simple as that. Fly over to China and try to start such a movement. But before you go make sure your affairs are in order here...because you won't be returning.

Quote from: jhoward11 on July 27, 2021, 08:09:39 AM
Jimspur... at 61 you will remember standing in grade school before school started with your hand over your heart and saying the pledge of allegiance, TO THE FLAG..ONE  UNDER GOD...AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. It says nothing about kneeling for your own agenda. There are other avenues for those things. As far as competition and others have mentioned...we compete everyday. It doesn't have to be on a field, or court. We can be at work or just life in general. Turkey hunters are all competitors. We all speak about the idiots who shoot someone while out hunting and it just makes our sport look bad. That is the same as kneeling. It just makes our country look bad and weak.  Represent your country in a respectful way, she's not always right, but she is yours!! Kneeling is for praying!

Yes I do remember! We were raised to love America no matter what.
Like you said, she's not always right, but she is yours!
It's supposed to be the one thing that binds us together.
Sadly, there are forces within this country trying to tear this fabric apart.

If some of these athletes think this country got it wrong, they really
wouldn't like it somewhere else, where they wouldn't be allowed to
protest at all.

I have never served in the military, but would like to thank all those
who have. I can only imagine how it makes you feel to see all this
disrespect toward flag and country. I know how it makes me feel,               and I don't like it. I think a lot of these younger people have no idea
of the sacrifice and courage displayed by so many, to give them the
right to protest.

Lastly, I don't understand this kneeling. There's only one reason for me
to kneel, and it's not to the false god of ..., or whatever they're kneeling
for. You'll never see me "bend the knee", not my style.

I could say plenty on this subject , but I think this sums it up .
    Love it or leave it !!!!

No Gold for you!   I think this may be a result from not staying focused on the task at hand.   

This is the result of focusing on what type of protest you're going to
do on the medal stand, so you can be on ESPNCNN WokeCenter,
instead of focusing on winning the matches first.

Can't say I'm upset about it.

All it takes is one bad apple!

Im a huge soccer fan & used to follow the womens team closely. This team is just hard to root for. Take a team like the 99 world cup winners. Now that was a team to get behind. Todays team with the knee taking and thinking they have a social platform along with the lie of equal pay. I just couldnt watch. They dont represent me. Mike

I find it disgusting. They should weed out those who are embarrassed to compete for their country. The Olympics have been a joke for years, this kind of tomfoolery is encouraged, therefore I DO NOT watch it or support it in any way. Nor will I watch any sport that allows and or glorifies anything negative against the USA. Don't like it, leave it.

Quote from: Sungrazer on August 09, 2021, 10:29:26 PM
I find it disgusting. They should weed out those who are embarrassed to compete for their country. The Olympics have been a joke for years, this kind of tomfoolery is encouraged, therefore I DO NOT watch it or support it in any way. Nor will I watch any sport that allows and or glorifies anything negative against the USA. Don't like it, leave it.

I have thousands of dollars in football and hockey jerseys, hats and other memorabilia that I will not even wear or display anymore because of this stuff, my dad played pro football and my grandfather played semi-pro football so suffice to say football is in my blood and it is hard not to watch and wish they would stop this altogether. Makes me want to puke.

If you guys think the Wokyo Olympics were bad, you should read about
the 2024 Olympics which will be held in Paris, France.
The International Olympic Committee is, "keen to set a new standard
for inclusive, gender-balanced and youth-centred games" in Paris in 2024.

Breakdancing is being added as a medal event.

Gotta love the Woketard Olympics!

I'm looking forward to the next Women's boxing competition.   I hope its an Olympic sport in 2024.  My money is on the new gal!
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Quote from: Jimspur on August 10, 2021, 12:10:00 PM
Breakdancing is being added as a medal event.

I'm looking forward to the new underwater tiddlywinks and three-meter spitball competitions myself.   :icon_thumright: ;D :toothy9: :angel9:

I am looking forward to the death of Professional sports entirely. I will take watching amatures that want to play for the sake of playing over a bunch of spoiled, crybaby, attention you know whats all day, everyday.

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Quote from: Happy on August 10, 2021, 06:13:03 PM
I am looking forward to the death of Professional sports entirely. I will take watching amatures that want to play for the sake of playing over a bunch of spoiled, crybaby, attention you know whats all day, everyday.

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Amen to that.
That Female boxing post hit the nail on the head, and made me laugh :agreed:

Quote from: guesswho on August 10, 2021, 03:47:29 PM
I'm looking forward to the next Women's boxing competition.   I hope its an Olympic sport in 2024.  My money is on the new gal!
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"She" already had the high pitched voice!!!

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