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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: twyatt on May 03, 2021, 12:04:10 PM

Title: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: twyatt on May 03, 2021, 12:04:10 PM
Does anyone have one of these yet?  Opinions? Patterns? Chokes?
Other than not having a pistol grip, it checks off most things I'd want in a new 20ga turkey gun.  I just haven't seen or heard any reviews about them yet.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: DBuck90 on May 03, 2021, 09:52:38 PM
Pistol grip is coming I know a couple guys that have Retays with a pistol grip I want one as well
To compare it to my Benelli M2 it should be one heck of a shooter and the barrel is 2 inches shorter at 22in choke wise it takes the same threat pattern as Benelli crio system
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: BINK McCARTY on May 04, 2021, 01:52:30 AM
Quote from: DBuck90 on May 03, 2021, 09:52:38 PM
Pistol grip is coming I know a couple guys that have Retays with a pistol grip I want one as well
To compare it to my Benelli M2 it should be one heck of a shooter and the barrel is 2 inches shorter at 22in choke wise it takes the same threat pattern as Benelli crio system

You have proof positive of Retay turkey XT model with pistol grip? I heard the rumor from Retay in an email I got a week or so ago.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: Meleagris gallopavo on May 04, 2021, 11:11:19 AM
I'd get the 20 gauge in a heartbeat if it had a pistol grip and MO Obsession camo.


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Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: twyatt on May 04, 2021, 01:17:29 PM
I had this gun in my hands last night and was talked out of buying it by three different sales guys at our local gun store.  I couldn't really get any firm answers as to why, other than they keep getting them back in for repairs, and it wasn't anything consistent.  Some not loading properly, some stove piping shells, one gun was sent out brand new unopened with no bolt at all.  Seemed like a variety of issues they've had with them.  I don't know if there was more to it or not, but I've been there several times messing with the Gordion turkey and then the Masai Mara turkey last night, and every different rep that comes over to talk to me seems like "meh, they're ok".   It wasn't like they were trying to sell me anything else, no other guns were mentioned, they just don't seem to like them.

I just ended up getting the Benelli M2.  I'm a big fan of the Benelli's anyway, and own 3 12ga Benelli's now and have never had a single issue ever with them, so there's some comfort level there too.
I'm sure the Retay's are fine guns, it was a tossup for me anyway with the M2, I had been eyeing it for a long time, just finally bit the bullet and bought it.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: greentag on May 04, 2021, 06:50:25 PM
I have one and love it,I wish I could post pics on here I would show y'all some patterns, They are crazy good for a 20 guage.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: BINK McCARTY on May 04, 2021, 10:50:53 PM
Quote from: Meleagris gallopavo on May 04, 2021, 11:11:19 AM
I'd get the 20 gauge in a heartbeat if it had a pistol grip and MO Obsession camo.


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I second that !!!! I've been looking for one in Obsession but have yet to ever even see one advertised. I love the pattern.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: BINK McCARTY on May 04, 2021, 10:52:07 PM
Quote from: twyatt on May 04, 2021, 01:17:29 PM
I had this gun in my hands last night and was talked out of buying it by three different sales guys at our local gun store.  I couldn't really get any firm answers as to why, other than they keep getting them back in for repairs, and it wasn't anything consistent.  Some not loading properly, some stove piping shells, one gun was sent out brand new unopened with no bolt at all.  Seemed like a variety of issues they've had with them.  I don't know if there was more to it or not, but I've been there several times messing with the Gordion turkey and then the Masai Mara turkey last night, and every different rep that comes over to talk to me seems like "meh, they're ok".   It wasn't like they were trying to sell me anything else, no other guns were mentioned, they just don't seem to like them.

I just ended up getting the Benelli M2.  I'm a big fan of the Benelli's anyway, and own 3 12ga Benelli's now and have never had a single issue ever with them, so there's some comfort level there too.
I'm sure the Retay's are fine guns, it was a tossup for me anyway with the M2, I had been eyeing it for a long time, just finally bit the bullet and bought it.

You had the pistol grip version in your hands? Please PM me with the location if that is indeed the case. Thanks!
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: twyatt on May 05, 2021, 05:54:07 AM
No, just the standard
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: bigbird on May 15, 2021, 08:42:59 AM
I held one in a shop here in town and to me they feel cheap! Is the craze for for them all due to social media? Chasing 49 and Dr duck?
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: Tuffonturkeys on May 17, 2021, 09:52:31 AM
Agree with bigbird.. I looked real hard about the retay and to me it just feels kinda bulky and heavier than an inertia gun should be. I ended up with a franchi compact 24" barrel. There just isn't enough information on them in my part of the country only 1 or 2 stores around here carry them
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: Holtbensley on May 19, 2021, 07:11:08 AM
A friend of mine bought one of the 20ga from a shop in Alabama we are from Ohio. My first thoughts Is that it is bulky and it is heavier than my Stoeger 3020.. You can physically feel the weight difference in the two. The trigger is really nice in my opinion that is really the only positive I can think of.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: mflmk on June 20, 2021, 04:21:51 PM
What choke are you using in your Retay 20 gauge.  I have a Jebs .555 , but not real happy with the results. 
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: va_gobbler_chaser on December 16, 2021, 11:12:04 AM
I love mine.

Only thing I did was had my gunsmith lower the trigger pull and travel and to note it wasn't a bad factory trigger! Just not where I like a trigger to be for turkey hunting. It was around 5.5lb factory. I had it lowered to 3lb and he also cut the travel length in half. Other than that I'm in love with the gun. Feels great. Patterns very strong. The forcing come if factory lengthened in them. Gun comes apart with no tools in seconds.

I get 90 plus% retention at 40 yards with apex 9's.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: va_gobbler_chaser on December 16, 2021, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: mflmk on June 20, 2021, 04:21:51 PM
What choke are you using in your Retay 20 gauge.  I have a Jebs .555 , but not real happy with the results.

Indian Creek .555-575 all patterned 90 plus % retention at 40 yards but my favorite 20" pattern it throws is with the open .575.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: va_gobbler_chaser on December 16, 2021, 11:27:13 AM
People on here are commenting that they feel "cheap" and "bulky"

I do not comprehend that myself. Mine weighs 7lb even loaded with 3 TSS shells, sling, and trijicon SRO sight mounted on a Meadow creek mount. If a fully loaded fully set up gun that weighs 7lbs is to much weight for a healthy man then my lord I'd just quit lol. It is balanced amazingly and very thin feeling in my hands! I killed i think 9 gobblers with mine last spring and carried to 5 states. I love mine. Not a fan boy here. I am a pump man. Have always wanted a semi auto but had never found one that I fell in love with. Sure I liked Benelli M2's but I'd spent hundreds building it the way I wanted and I can not stand long barrels for turkey hunting.

The Turkey XT comes drilled and tapped receiver, good trigger for factory trigger in a shotgun, factory forcing cone lengthened, short 22" barrel, no "Benelli click" with the inertia plus, thin in the hands, drilled steel bores, and camo dipped and on ready to hunt out the box for $1200.

I had never found a semi auto for turkey hunting that I loved and was willing to split time with my pumps. I knew when a couple years ago when I held a 12ga Retay Masai Mara and disassembled it at the NWTF show in Nashville that when ever the day came that Retay came out with a short barreled turkey model 20ga that I would own it!
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: greentag on December 16, 2021, 02:04:50 PM
I love mine too,it's slim feeling to me and I have a super black eagle 2,I love the short barrel qnd the crazy good patterns it shoots...I was wanting a m2 20 guage until I came accross the turkey xt retay,it would cost a ton to do the benelli all the things this Retay has from the factory...the slammer button,drilled,speed unloader,forcing cone  lengthened,barrel cut down...I live the way a m2 feels,but I have to say that with this short barrel the Retay feels just as good...and besides I don't care to loose a few pounds to have a machined aluminum trigger guard and no plastic other than the stock,plus mine has a really good trigger,way better than my benellis,The one I got was the first one I had seen when they first came out and I got it for 999.00 and I would do it all over again in a heartbeat..I think it's the nicest 20 guage out set up for turkeys right from the factory with everything you would want in a turkey gun....
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: va_gobbler_chaser on December 16, 2021, 02:48:29 PM
Exactly my thoughts to man
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: mflmk on December 23, 2021, 12:15:07 PM
Quote from: va_gobbler_chaser on December 16, 2021, 11:12:04 AM
I love mine.

Only thing I did was had my gunsmith lower the trigger pull and travel and to note it wasn't a bad factory trigger! Just not where I like a trigger to be for turkey hunting. It was around 5.5lb factory. I had it lowered to 3lb and he also cut the travel length in half. Other than that I'm in love with the gun. Feels great. Patterns very strong. The forcing come if factory lengthened in them. Gun comes apart with no tools in seconds.

I get 90 plus% retention at 40 yards with apex 9's.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: Cbryant1 on February 15, 2022, 05:22:55 PM
I don't understand the Cheap + Bulky Claims.
I have had a retay masai mara 12 gauge for 3 duck seasons and have NEVER, and i repeat NEVER had a failure to feed, fire or eject. It is the best auto loader on the market IMO. It breaks down in seconds and allows for easy cleaning of all components.

Last year i turkey hunted with a franchi elite 20 gauge, liked it but never got a super solid pattern from it. had the "Benelli click" happen on 2 separate occasions in one season. moving around, belly crawling, etc. knocks that bolt out of battery quite a bit. Also, not a quiet fix when you have a gobbler screaming at 100 yards. so this year i sold it and i bought a retay 20 gauge standard 26" barrel. After shooting it and using it. I'm so glad i did. these guns are extremely well built. The finish of the plastic stocks could be better. That's the case on alot of these sythetic guns now days. Both of my retays are well balanced and are flawless mechanically. I duck hunt with alot of people that use benellis and some of them have issues. All of these guns and manufactures have "lemons". However, my experience with retay has been great and their customer service is great! The Inertia Plus bolt system is the best inertia system on the market IMO.

Now i have a 12 ga and 20 ga matching pair! Hope this helps anyone on the fence about one.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: Turkeyfever on March 03, 2022, 10:17:41 PM
Bought one of these today ! I absolutely love the feel of the gun and it doesn't feel any heavier than my other inertia 20 gauge guns. It just seems so well built and the weight is distributed perfectly. My 13 year old says he is taking it over! Gonna get it set up this weekend just wondering which choke tube to try but first I will give the factory full 585 a chance. If anyone has some choke recommendations I am all ears as I understand these use the crio plus tubes ?
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: rubachub on March 04, 2022, 07:52:38 AM
I love my retay. I bought the standard with the 26" barrel and ordered a 22" barrel from retay for $300 shipped to my house. That barrel came drilled with a rail. I am using IC 562 with apex 9.

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Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: BINK McCARTY on March 11, 2022, 05:11:48 AM
I've held them and gawked at them quite a bit...that coupled with the above pattern doesn't seem "cheap" at all. Its probably the fact that this is a Turkish made gun and they have had a stigma about them for a while, but thats no longer the case. Legacy put out the pointer phenoma and its a great gun all around. The mossbergs and some Weatherbys are also made in Turkey. Folks, don't let this shotgun go unnoticed if you're in the market for a great semi-auto , loaded with great features, for a great price.
Title: Re: Retay Masai Mara 20ga Turkey XT
Post by: Turkeyfever on March 19, 2022, 12:49:49 AM
Update on mine, I am very pleased with this gun. I am sticking with the factory full 585 choke as it throws great patterns. The gun is a straight shooter and feels great . I shot bead and then went ahead and put a Swampfox kingslayer on the gun for my son. The juvenile hunt is close and he is set up and ready to go! I have other 20 gauge semi autos but this one is quickly becoming my favorite. My son shot it today as  I was getting POI correct with his sight. He absolutely loves the gun! Very pleased so far!