Anyone ever tried a 3.5 grey slate over stainless in ziricote pot?
Oh boy oh boy the secret weapon! Well I guess not anymore! :turkey2:. Sounds like the dirtiest girl in the smoking section of the corner bar!!!!!! One thing I love about John Sinclair Calls is that he will try anything and put together anything you dream up. No wait always pure turkey! :gobble:
Your post needs a sound file.
https://youtu.be/o5FAA9VwSTo (https://youtu.be/o5FAA9VwSTo)
Here is a soundfile John put up today of the call I received.. Gray slate over stainless steel in ziricote pot.
:z-winnersmiley:
I'm curious what other folks think of the sound... That to my ear is what I am looking for when I think of what I want my pot calls to sound like. I have all kinds of combos and most of my favorites have metal soundboards...Slate over metal is so easy to condition and play it will go from low to high volume and it has good rollover and rasp to the notes.... Will purr super easy and everything in-between... I do enjoy crystal over brass too and a few different glass material surfaces.
Sounds like a copper or aluminum call to me... not the sound i want out of a slate call, but thats just me. He makes some beautiful calls, some of em sound pretty good. My issue is how there's been so many people going over the top pushing his calls on here over the years, including his "prostaff manager". Theres been multiple guys who have joined this forum only to push his calls. Good turkey calls sell themselves. Not saying he doesnt make good calls, i know better. But honestly, I wouldnt touch his calls or his prostaff managers strikers with a 10 foot pole after what ive seen transpire on here. :z-twocents:
Quote from: jordanz7935 on March 14, 2021, 03:46:49 PM
Sounds like a copper or aluminum call to me... not the sound i want out of a slate call, but thats just me. He makes some beautiful calls, some of em sound pretty good. My issue is how there's been so many people going over the top pushing his calls on here over the years, including his "prostaff manager". Theres been multiple guys who have joined this forum only to push his calls. Good turkey calls sell themselves. Not saying he doesnt make good calls, i know better. But honestly, I wouldnt touch his calls or his prostaff managers strikers with a 10 foot pole after what ive seen transpire on here. :z-twocents:
Oh yeah he doesn't need any help selling turkey calls... I watch his site he numbers the ones he has sold this year and just what he has listed is over #240 calls for this year and who knows how many more he has sold that didn't get listed probably 2x to 3x that....Hmmmm honestly I don't care what people "push" on the internet that doesn't effect if I will or will not buy something.. Why do people get so emotional about the internet? I really love copper it translates outside and through the woods as such a realistic turkey yelp.. All I can say is life it too short lighten up a little.. LOL
Quote from: drk9988 on March 14, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on March 14, 2021, 03:46:49 PM
Sounds like a copper or aluminum call to me... not the sound i want out of a slate call, but thats just me. He makes some beautiful calls, some of em sound pretty good. My issue is how there's been so many people going over the top pushing his calls on here over the years, including his "prostaff manager". Theres been multiple guys who have joined this forum only to push his calls. Good turkey calls sell themselves. Not saying he doesnt make good calls, i know better. But honestly, I wouldnt touch his calls or his prostaff managers strikers with a 10 foot pole after what ive seen transpire on here. :z-twocents:
Oh yeah he doesn't need any help selling turkey calls... I watch his site he numbers the ones he has sold this year and just what he has listed is over #240 calls for this year and who knows how many more he has sold that didn't get listed probably 2x to 3x that....Hmmmm honestly I don't care what people "push" on the internet that doesn't effect if I will or will not buy something.. Why do people get so emotional about the internet? I really love copper it translates outside and through the woods as such a realistic turkey yelp.. All I can say is life it too short lighten up a little.. LOL
Emotional? Thanks for the laugh. And wow, your keeping track of how many calls he sells? So theres a Hmmm right back at ya. I didnt ask for your opinion, you asked everyones on this forum. Its obvious why your here. You sinclair fanboys are doing the same thing the hevishot spammers have been doing on here for years. Keep up the good work and please report back at the end of the year and let us know how many hes sold.
I don't push his calls , but when asked ......
I like his calls ... Everyone has there own sound they like
Quote from: outdoors on March 14, 2021, 05:43:43 PM
I don't push his calls , but when asked ......
I like his calls ... Everyone has there own sound they like
Like is an understatement! :you_rock:
I'm just being a little modest .......
Quote from: jordanz7935 on March 14, 2021, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: drk9988 on March 14, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on March 14, 2021, 03:46:49 PM
Sounds like a copper or aluminum call to me... not the sound i want out of a slate call, but thats just me. He makes some beautiful calls, some of em sound pretty good. My issue is how there's been so many people going over the top pushing his calls on here over the years, including his "prostaff manager". Theres been multiple guys who have joined this forum only to push his calls. Good turkey calls sell themselves. Not saying he doesnt make good calls, i know better. But honestly, I wouldnt touch his calls or his prostaff managers strikers with a 10 foot pole after what ive seen transpire on here. :z-twocents:
Oh yeah he doesn't need any help selling turkey calls... I watch his site he numbers the ones he has sold this year and just what he has listed is over #240 calls for this year and who knows how many more he has sold that didn't get listed probably 2x to 3x that....Hmmmm honestly I don't care what people "push" on the internet that doesn't effect if I will or will not buy something.. Why do people get so emotional about the internet? I really love copper it translates outside and through the woods as such a realistic turkey yelp.. All I can say is life it too short lighten up a little.. LOL
Emotional? Thanks for the laugh. And wow, your keeping track of how many calls he sells? So theres a Hmmm right back at ya. I didnt ask for your opinion, you asked everyones on this forum. Its obvious why your here. You sinclair fanboys are doing the same thing the hevishot spammers have been doing on here for years. Keep up the good work and please report back at the end of the year and let us know how many hes sold.
I wasn't going to respond back to you but the few falsehoods you portray I didn't want to let go... #1 He doesn't have a prostaff or a prostaff manager. #2 I have no clue how many calls he has sold this year I just know the calls on the site are numbered up to 21-200 something. #3 Hardly anyone talks about his calls so they have sold themselves #4 Letting the whole thing effect you to the point that you publicly speak in absolutes about his calls and the other guys strikers is sad..#5 On the original post I asked about the sound and if people liked it...I didn't need to hear about your emotional response why you will never buy one! LoL
To me is sounds like brass and copper mixed. This post was to share a unique sound not many makers offer. I have the same call in grey slate over copper and copper has a bunch more rasp. I guess if your ears hear it all the same then ain't no arguing with you!
Quote from: outdoors on March 14, 2021, 05:43:43 PM
I don't push his calls , but when asked ......
I like his calls ... Everyone has there own sound they like
Exactly. Your a longstanding member of this forum who brings alot more to the table than a callmaker fanboy. Its the low post count guys, that 90% of there posts are pushing his calls that i will call out every time.
Quote from: drk9988 on March 10, 2021, 12:36:36 AM
Anyone ever tried a 3.5 grey slate over stainless in ziricote pot?
Oh boy oh boy the secret weapon! Well I guess not anymore! :turkey2:. Sounds like the dirtiest girl in the smoking section of the corner bar!!!!!! One thing I love about John Sinclair Calls is that he will try anything and put together anything you dream up. No wait always pure turkey! :gobble:
^This^ is the same over the top crap these guys have been coming on here posting for years. When asked you give a reccomendation. Not an over the top sales pitch.
Quote from: drk9988 on March 14, 2021, 06:11:00 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on March 14, 2021, 04:29:41 PM
Quote from: drk9988 on March 14, 2021, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: jordanz7935 on March 14, 2021, 03:46:49 PM
Sounds like a copper or aluminum call to me... not the sound i want out of a slate call, but thats just me. He makes some beautiful calls, some of em sound pretty good. My issue is how there's been so many people going over the top pushing his calls on here over the years, including his "prostaff manager". Theres been multiple guys who have joined this forum only to push his calls. Good turkey calls sell themselves. Not saying he doesnt make good calls, i know better. But honestly, I wouldnt touch his calls or his prostaff managers strikers with a 10 foot pole after what ive seen transpire on here. :z-twocents:
Oh yeah he doesn't need any help selling turkey calls... I watch his site he numbers the ones he has sold this year and just what he has listed is over #240 calls for this year and who knows how many more he has sold that didn't get listed probably 2x to 3x that....Hmmmm honestly I don't care what people "push" on the internet that doesn't effect if I will or will not buy something.. Why do people get so emotional about the internet? I really love copper it translates outside and through the woods as such a realistic turkey yelp.. All I can say is life it too short lighten up a little.. LOL
Emotional? Thanks for the laugh. And wow, your keeping track of how many calls he sells? So theres a Hmmm right back at ya. I didnt ask for your opinion, you asked everyones on this forum. Its obvious why your here. You sinclair fanboys are doing the same thing the hevishot spammers have been doing on here for years. Keep up the good work and please report back at the end of the year and let us know how many hes sold.
I wasn't going to respond back to you but the few falsehoods you portray I didn't want to let go... #1 He doesn't have a prostaff or a prostaff manager. #2 I have no clue how many calls he has sold this year I just know the calls on the site are numbered up to 21-200 something. #3 Hardly anyone talks about his calls so they have sold themselves #4 Letting the whole thing effect you to the point that you publicly speak in absolutes about his calls and the other guys strikers is sad..#5 On the original post I asked about the sound and if people liked it...I didn't need to hear about your emotional response why you will never buy one! LoL
To me is sounds like brass and copper mixed. This post was to share a unique sound not many makers offer. I have the same call in grey slate over copper and copper has a bunch more rasp. I guess if your ears hear it all the same then ain't no arguing with you!
Oh, he must have dismantled his prostaff after realizing they were doing more harm than good for his reputation. Just like you are doing with this over the top endorsement. JLH was his prostaff manager.And the "pro" in prostaff means promotional. Not that hard to wrap your mind around from the outside looking in. The only thing emotional is your sales pitch. Said it before and ill say it again he makes some nice calls. Some of us have been here for years and actually bring something to the table. I imagine youll be gone by next year and thatll open up the door for the next guy. But ill be here wearing my sunglasses and hipwaders to set him straight. Best of luck hunting this year. :-*
My honest opinion of the call, the back end roll of the call sounds like it's in a can, i didn't care for it myself. It's not a call i would buy... glad you like his calls. Good luck with it this spring.
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 08:10:19 PM
My honest opinion of the call, the back end roll of the call sounds like it's in a can, i didn't care for it myself. It's not a call i would buy... glad you like his calls. Good luck with it this spring.
It does have a bit of a hollow sound to the back end of the roll. You could get a little more pitch and probably little less of the hollow sound with a denser wood choice and probably green slate instead of grey. I actually like that I think it gives it a lovely extra dimension to the sound.. Like it's coming from within... On pot calls that you like what are you looking for on that back end? For that back end to be more sharp or pitchy? I'm genuinely curious what other folks think works for them.
Quote from: drk9988 on March 14, 2021, 08:31:11 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 08:10:19 PM
My honest opinion of the call, the back end roll of the call sounds like it's in a can, i didn't care for it myself. It's not a call i would buy... glad you like his calls. Good luck with it this spring.
It does have a bit of a hollow sound to the back end of the roll. You could get a little more pitch and probably little less of the hollow sound with a denser wood choice and probably green slate instead of grey. I actually like that I think it gives it a lovely extra dimension to the sound.. Like it's coming from within... On pot calls that you like what are you looking for on that back end? For that back end to be more sharp or pitchy? I'm genuinely curious what other folks think works for them.
I look for a call i don't have to manipulate to get a good sound from, a good pot call sounds and plays good regardless the striker, but i will agree, pot's do play better with different strikers. My question to you is why would you buy a call that you have to manipulate to achieve the sound your trying to find. Why not buy the call from a builder you know, has the proper pitch and back end your looking for in rasp or less rasp and pitch. The surface, sound boards and wood you choose all play a part including the hidden tricks of the internals of the pot dimensions. I'm not going to mention pot call builder names, but i have my favorite builders that meet my expectations in achieve everything I'm looking for in pot calls.
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 09:00:20 PM
Quote from: drk9988 on March 14, 2021, 08:31:11 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 08:10:19 PM
My honest opinion of the call, the back end roll of the call sounds like it's in a can, i didn't care for it myself. It's not a call i would buy... glad you like his calls. Good luck with it this spring.
It does have a bit of a hollow sound to the back end of the roll. You could get a little more pitch and probably little less of the hollow sound with a denser wood choice and probably green slate instead of grey. I actually like that I think it gives it a lovely extra dimension to the sound.. Like it's coming from within... On pot calls that you like what are you looking for on that back end? For that back end to be more sharp or pitchy? I'm genuinely curious what other folks think works for them.
I look for a call i don't have to manipulate to get a good sound from, a good pot call sounds and plays good regardless the striker, but i will agree, pot's do play better with different strikers. My question to you is why would you buy a call that you have to manipulate to achieve the sound your trying to find. Why not buy the call from a builder you know, has the proper pitch and back end your looking for in rasp or less rasp and pitch. The surface, sound boards and wood you choose all play a part including the hidden tricks of the internals of the pot dimensions. I'm not going to mention pot call builder names, but i have my favorite builders that meet my expectations in achieve everything I'm looking for in pot calls.
Maybe you misunderstood what I typed. I don't have to manipulate anything that is the sound I like and what I'm going for. To me that's the "proper" sound I'm looking for in that exact combo..That pitch and back end come from the metal inside and a wood that lends it self to full tone it's the combo not the call maker..I have other pots for other sounds. I like other sounds too depending on the situation, terrain or region I'm hunting. I was speaking about the wood used for the pot not the striker and I was offering up more options to maybe get less of the "in the can sound" as you called it. I like that sound and it comes from the combination of surface soundboard and pot wood...agreed.. I play any and all calls with a Rutland dymondwood striker that's what I like I don't like switching around strikers maybe only between different Rutland from different makers . Cornelius is your guy it looks like and the pots sound good. I think I understand the style you like from the few soundfiles I found linked to you... Everyone has something that works to their ears that's the fun of it for me is trying different combos.
To the best of my knowledge this is the only stainless sound board pot call out there
Sounds really good , maybe some miner adjustments
Agree it's all about opinions, and you welcome to name the people i like to buy pot calls from. Thanks for searching my pass post as you can tell from you search i have A great taste in builders who build fine pot calls. But again i have more than one who build great sounding pot calls. I will again agree with you, it's all about what your looking for in achieving that sound your looking for in a good hunting pot call. Again you ask for opinions and that what we are all giving is just opinions. If that call you posted is your go to call that's the call you should use alone with any others you may have, but I'm not going to research your pass post to see the calls you like.. good luck this spring with your calls.
:popcorn:
Some crazy internet hate going on here. Low post count profile (but been here for years) so I realize my opinion doesn't count.
I will say the call did not sound like slate.
Quote from: hpo on March 14, 2021, 11:02:07 PM
:popcorn:
Some crazy internet hate going on here. Low post count profile (but been here for years) so I realize my opinion doesn't count.
I will say the call did not sound like slate.
I have green and grey slate over various metals including brass,copper and now stainless..... What I like about metal under slate is the fact that you get the ease of conditioning and playing on slate but the sound of the metal mixed in... In the woods the metal soundboards translate to a very realistic sounding yelp. The birds like it too...
Exactly :z-winnersmiley:
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 09:00:20 PM
Quote from: drk9988 on March 14, 2021, 08:31:11 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 08:10:19 PM
My honest opinion of the call, the back end roll of the call sounds like it's in a can, i didn't care for it myself. It's not a call i would buy... glad you like his calls. Good luck with it this spring.
It does have a bit of a hollow sound to the back end of the roll. You could get a little more pitch and probably little less of the hollow sound with a denser wood choice and probably green slate instead of grey. I actually like that I think it gives it a lovely extra dimension to the sound.. Like it's coming from within... On pot calls that you like what are you looking for on that back end? For that back end to be more sharp or pitchy? I'm genuinely curious what other folks think works for them.
I look for a call i don't have to manipulate to get a good sound from, a good pot call sounds and plays good regardless the striker, but i will agree, pot's do play better with different strikers. My question to you is why would you buy a call that you have to manipulate to achieve the sound your trying to find. Why not buy the call from a builder you know, has the proper pitch and back end your looking for in rasp or less rasp and pitch. The surface, sound boards and wood you choose all play a part including the hidden tricks of the internals of the pot dimensions. I'm not going to mention pot call builder names, but i have my favorite builders that meet my expectations in achieve everything I'm looking for in pot calls.
to the og . dont care for it a little tinny but not like copper to me..
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 08:10:19 PM
My honest opinion of the call, the back end roll of the call sounds like it's in a can, i didn't care for it myself. It's not a call i would buy... glad you like his calls. Good luck with it this spring.
I feel the same way Greg. Just my opinion for what is worth.
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 14, 2021, 08:10:19 PM
My honest opinion of the call, the back end roll of the call sounds like it's in a can, i didn't care for it myself. It's not a call i would buy... glad you like his calls. Good luck with it this spring.
I didn't like the sound at all, It never did roll over to a good yelp sounded like one continuous sound and wasn't good. JMO
Sounds like someone learning to use a box call. I wouldn't of guessed that was a pot. I'm a rookie though.
Don't think that's the one for me.
Well that grey slate over stainless really drove the turkeys wild for our opening day.... We killed 4 gobblers by noon all on public land. Grey over stainless from John Sinclair had the gobblers going wild. I guess it's the one for me that nasty call with no rollover ::) that sounds like a degenerate playing a box call..I believe it's a sound they have never heard and they loved it.. Carry on.
That's awesome , you have a go-to call bud
Co n g r a d u l a t I o n
Quote from: outdoors on April 16, 2021, 05:35:08 PM
That's awesome , you have a go-to call bud
Co n g r a d u l a t I o n
Thanks!
I heard you might have a grey slate over stainless or two or three
Yup. Have another coming ..........
Quote from: drk9988 on April 16, 2021, 05:12:15 PM
Well that grey slate over stainless really drove the turkeys wild for our opening day.... We killed 4 gobblers by noon all on public land. Grey over stainless from John Sinclair had the gobblers going wild. I guess it's the one for me that nasty call with no rollover ::) that sounds like a degenerate playing a box call..I believe it's a sound they have never heard and they loved it.. Carry on.
So much for manipulating the call. Well done!!
Quote from: hpo on April 17, 2021, 10:15:46 AM
Quote from: drk9988 on April 16, 2021, 05:12:15 PM
Well that grey slate over stainless really drove the turkeys wild for our opening day.... We killed 4 gobblers by noon all on public land. Grey over stainless from John Sinclair had the gobblers going wild. I guess it's the one for me that nasty call with no rollover ::) that sounds like a degenerate playing a box call..I believe it's a sound they have never heard and they loved it.. Carry on.
So much for manipulating the call. Well done!!
No manipulation! Just a Rutland Striker and the Sinclair call. Only thing I manipulated was these poor gobblers.... All the talk about this striker and that striker and whatever else manipulation means. I only use a Rutland striker keeps it simple...Also one fellow talks about tin can and or sounds like copper or brass not what people want in a slate call... Pretty much every call that gets great response for me has a metal soundboard.... Copper,brass,stainless and aluminum.... I choose slate over it cause it's easy to condition and stays conditioned for a long time.... They have the volume to get a response from a mile or two and the ability to whisper the sultry purrs and yelps when the birds close. Truly a do it all call....And.... Not every call maker can pull off the metal soundboards. John does especially if you know the woods to pick with your pairing or you buy prebuilt..