My nephew is 10 and getting interested in shooting and hunting. I'm thinking about giving him a 22 but all I have are semi automatic. What's legal up there or considered illegal I should ask? I don't live in New York and I have heard they have some crazy laws up there.
Sir Dialot lives in NY. He will have the best info.. good guy, very knowledgeable.
What semi do you have in mind. As long as its a 10 rd mag or less the criteria is pretty reasonable. Unless your an AR guy.
Avoid clips with more than 10 rounds is the first thing you need to avoid thanks to our dictator in office. Also I have heard but am not positive on this but I am of the understanding that no more thumb hole stocks and definitely no "Bump stocks" I will look into the thumbhole stock issue to be sure tomorrow, my brain is about numb right now.
This is the one that most concerns me, I do not have kids so I have not paid a lot of attention to it but I will do my best to find out more.
Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess in New York
Last updated October 23, 2018.
New York law prohibits anyone under age 21 from obtaining a license to possess or carry a handgun.1
Persons under the age of 16 generally may not possess any firearms or ammunition in New York.2
New York penalizes transferring a firearm to a person who is or reasonably appears to be less than nineteen years of age if the seller is not legally authorized to possess a firearm.3
Federal age restrictions impose stricter limits.
See our Minimum Age to Purchase or Possess Firearms policy summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue. https://lawcenter.giffords.org/minimum-age-to-purchase-possess-in-new-york/
I was gonna give him a 10/22 or a model 60. Thanks for helping me out
No thumbhole...pistol grip OK, which I have on both of my turkey guns.
You are fine with both of those guns.
And the thumbhole/pistol grip only applies if there is a detachable magazine. Therefore most turkey guns if not all are ok.
:thanks:That's a relief since my Knight TK2000 muzzleloader has a thumb hole stock. Hate if it was NY illegal. LOL.
Quote from: mikejd on June 09, 2020, 06:52:07 AM
You are fine with both of those guns.
And the thumbhole/pistol grip only applies if there is a detachable magazine. Therefore most turkey guns if not all are ok.
Yes thank you, I was just coming to reply on that, your statement is absolutely correct.
It has been over thirty years since I have been in New York and with the quality of the politicians there I do not expect to ever step foot there again. I don't expect Shurmer to be there to protect me when faced by Antifa or Black Lives Matters.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 09, 2020, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: mikejd on June 09, 2020, 06:52:07 AM
You are fine with both of those guns.
And the thumbhole/pistol grip only applies if there is a detachable magazine. Therefore most turkey guns if not all are ok.
Yes thank you, I was just coming to reply on that, your statement is absolutely correct.
Oh...news to me. I didn't realize there was a stipulation re: detachable magazine. Gotta love Czar Mario.
Quote from: Turkeyman on June 09, 2020, 01:36:46 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 09, 2020, 11:18:38 AM
Quote from: mikejd on June 09, 2020, 06:52:07 AM
You are fine with both of those guns.
And the thumbhole/pistol grip only applies if there is a detachable magazine. Therefore most turkey guns if not all are ok.
Yes thank you, I was just coming to reply on that, your statement is absolutely correct.
Oh...news to me. I didn't realize there was a stipulation re: detachable magazine. Gotta love Czar Mario.
Yea, he is a piece of work to say the least.
@Bigbird one other thing you will have to find out is if you can gift it to him, several years ago there were some firemen that responded to a call and when they got there a guy open fired on them, turned out that somebody had bought the guns for him, because of that there is a law that refers to "Straw Purchases" and in some cases you can't buy a gun for somebody.
Is the model 60 legal since it holds more than 10 rounds in the tube mag? Wouldn't surprise me if it's illegal in NY and, or Ca.
I'd highly recommend you go right to the source
https://safeact.ny.gov/
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Quote from: Terry on June 09, 2020, 04:04:27 PM
I'd highly recommend you go right to the source
https://safeact.ny.gov/
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Probably need to be a lawyer to read it.
Lets look at it this way. You can legally own an AR 15 with flash suppressor, collapsible stock, pistol grip etc as long as you have the magazine pinned. Detachable mag is the game changer for most of these rules. Just shows how they really care about protecting people and not pushing their agenda. I guess if you are a criminal they figure you are not going to remove the pin.
As for the model 60 being tube fed you have me on that one. Definitely look further.
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Quote from: Terry on June 09, 2020, 04:04:27 PM
I'd highly recommend you go right to the source
https://safeact.ny.gov/
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Probably need to be a lawyer to read it.
Nope, it's pretty simple. Check it out
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Quote from: Terry on June 09, 2020, 05:47:02 PM
Quote from: mikejd on June 09, 2020, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Terry on June 09, 2020, 04:04:27 PM
I'd highly recommend you go right to the source
https://safeact.ny.gov/
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Probably need to be a lawyer to read it.
Nope, it's pretty simple. Check it out
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Wow. Its about time they wrote a law you can understand. The law still sucks though.
As for the OP it looks like your tube fed is good. Again looks like everything hinders on the detachable mag.
Guys a friend of mine asked me about this as he was concerned. He's put a thumb hole stock on his bolt action deer rifle. It's got a detachable magazine.
To help him out I tried the town next to me (NY) and asked legality, they didn't know. The DEC didn't know, some DEC law enforcement didn't know, I than called the state police. The trooper answering the phone said you can't modify your gun. I said it's not modifying it, only replacing w another slightly dif factory stock. She was unsure so transferred me to another trooper. Supposedly the expert. He said even w a detachable magazine a thumb hole stock was legal on a bolt action rifle. That would excuse a 10-22 being it's a semi but not a bolt action. He said that was the difference.
If anyone feels this is bad info please advise so I can look into it further for him.
Quote from: Bowguy on June 10, 2020, 05:33:20 PM
Guys a friend of mine asked me about this as he was concerned. He's put a thumb hole stock on his bolt action deer rifle. It's got a detachable magazine.
To help him out I tried the town next to me (NY) and asked legality, they didn't know. The DEC didn't know, some DEC law enforcement didn't know, I than called the state police. The trooper answering the phone said you can't modify your gun. I said it's not modifying it, only replacing w another slightly dif factory stock. She was unsure so transferred me to another trooper. Supposedly the expert. He said even w a detachable magazine a thumb hole stock was legal on a bolt action rifle. That would excuse a 10-22 being it's a semi but not a bolt action. He said that was the difference.
If anyone feels this is bad info please advise so I can look into it further for him.
Bolt action detachable mag you can do anything. If you open up that safe act link above it is really easy to read and understand.
Thank you
Wow, never seen so many gun laws.
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Quote from: davisd9 on June 11, 2020, 09:32:11 PM
Wow, never seen so many gun laws.
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Oh yeah. Communist state.
Quote from: mikejd on June 11, 2020, 09:43:38 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on June 11, 2020, 09:32:11 PM
Wow, never seen so many gun laws.
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Oh yeah. Communist state.
As far as I know, we just go by federal law on firearms here in S.C.
Quote from: davisd9 on June 11, 2020, 09:52:44 PM
Quote from: mikejd on June 11, 2020, 09:43:38 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on June 11, 2020, 09:32:11 PM
Wow, never seen so many gun laws.
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Oh yeah. Communist state.
As far as I know, we just go by federal law on firearms here in S.C.
You do not have to rub it in. I live in NJ but used to live in NY. My hunting land that I own and pay taxes on is in NY. All My guns are legal in NJ and all are actually legal guns to own in NY yet I can not bring any of my hand guns to my NY place to shoot because I cross the border. Im not talking carry I cant even lock them up and bring them to my own place.
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Quote from: mikejd on June 11, 2020, 09:43:38 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on June 11, 2020, 09:32:11 PM
Wow, never seen so many gun laws.
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Oh yeah. Communist state.
As far as I know, we just go by federal law on firearms here in S.C.
You do not have to rub it in. I live in NJ but used to live in NY. My hunting land that I own and pay taxes on is in NY. All My guns are legal in NJ and all are actually legal guns to own in NY yet I can not bring any of my hand guns to my NY place to shoot because I cross the border. Im not talking carry I cant even lock them up and bring them to my own place.
Trump is trying to get that so you can carry them in every state, sure hope he can get it to pass.
Quote from: mikejd on June 11, 2020, 10:42:33 PMYou do not have to rub it in. I live in NJ but used to live in NY. My hunting land that I own and pay taxes on is in NY. All My guns are legal in NJ and all are actually legal guns to own in NY yet I can not bring any of my hand guns to my NY place to shoot because I cross the border. Im not talking carry I cant even lock them up and bring them to my own place.
Can you consider that partial residency?
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Quote from: Terry on June 12, 2020, 08:35:12 AM
Quote from: mikejd on June 11, 2020, 10:42:33 PMYou do not have to rub it in. I live in NJ but used to live in NY. My hunting land that I own and pay taxes on is in NY. All My guns are legal in NJ and all are actually legal guns to own in NY yet I can not bring any of my hand guns to my NY place to shoot because I cross the border. Im not talking carry I cant even lock them up and bring them to my own place.
Can you consider that partial residency?
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I do not believe so but have not looked into it. I do know many other guys in the same boat and I dont know anyone who tried that route.