I'm putting down the bow this spring, and taken old mossy out of retirement. I have been seeing something's about tss. Is it like heavy 13 or something totally different? I patern the boy and I was getting 127 in a 10in at 40yds. I wasn't real happy with my numbers but good enough to put a bird down
Tungsten super shot, it's 18gcc so you can shoot shot sizes as small as 10s for turkeys!
Lots of really nice round dense pellets so they pattern fantastic! 127 in the ten is lethal but If you got that with tss you would be pissed!
You will likely double that or more!
It is legit!
What shot size
What choke
What gage
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I get 340's with my current 20 ga setup. That's using 9's. Was getting 370's with my 12 ga using same size shot. Haven't tried the 8's yet but I'm anxious to see what they're gonna do out of the 12. But with the 20 doing what it's doing, I may never find out.
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Quote from: Dtrkyman on April 11, 2020, 09:40:03 PM
Tungsten super shot, it's 18gcc so you can shoot shot sizes as small as 10s for turkeys!
Lots of really nice round dense pellets so they pattern fantastic! 127 in the ten is lethal but If you got that with tss you would be pissed!
You will likely double that or more!
It is legit!
you will likely TRIPLE that...or more.
Better patterns with TSS but the cost is considerably higher. If your shooting lead, about 5 times more. IMO, not worth the cost in the 12 but it definitely levels the playing field with the 20 and .410.
TSS has turned a 2 3/4" 20ga into a light weight lethal killer at 40 yds. The 12ga 2 1/4oz 3.5" is no longer needed.
It's pixie dust in a sub-gauge.
Its a different animal. A 20 gauge shooting TSS will outperform a 12 gauge shooting lead or hevi13.
What you've got now will kill birds but you misjudge one that's at 50 yards it turns into a mess fast. Guys are using .410s and TSS and putting up 130s at 40 yards all day.
I've used #9 TSS for years without issue. Extremely impressive stuff. My boys use #10s with improved cylinder chokes with great results as well.
Quote from: Gobble! on April 13, 2020, 11:13:51 AM
Its a different animal. A 20 gauge shooting TSS will outperform a 12 gauge shooting lead or hevi13.
What you've got now will kill birds but you misjudge one that's at 50 yards it turns into a mess fast. Guys are using .410s and TSS and putting up 130s at 40 yards all day.
I've used #9 TSS for years without issue. Extremely impressive stuff. My boys use #10s with improved cylinder chokes with great results as well.
What guns are they burning the 10's through?
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I hand load my own and will say this. I will never shoot anything else. #9's out of my 20 gauge is one of the most leathal combos I have ever witnessed. Awesome patterns , tremendous energy and scary consistency . Also not to mention , its a joy to tote a light weight 20 gauge up and down those ridges all day.
I WENT FROM 15O WITH WINCHESTER LONG BEARDS[JUNK] TO 227 IN A 10 CIRCLE WITH THE TSS I WON'T LOOK BACK YA THEY WILL SET U BACK SOME BUT I LOVE THEM..
Quote from: wvmntnhick on April 13, 2020, 07:29:58 PM
Quote from: Gobble! on April 13, 2020, 11:13:51 AM
Its a different animal. A 20 gauge shooting TSS will outperform a 12 gauge shooting lead or hevi13.
What you've got now will kill birds but you misjudge one that's at 50 yards it turns into a mess fast. Guys are using .410s and TSS and putting up 130s at 40 yards all day.
I've used #9 TSS for years without issue. Extremely impressive stuff. My boys use #10s with improved cylinder chokes with great results as well.
What guns are they burning the 10's through?
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20 gauge 870.
The TSS difference?
- In my 12 gauge, I was patterning 275+ in a 10" circle at 40 yards shooting 3" with 2oz. Hevi #7s under 1,100 fps.
- In my new 20 gauge, I'm patterning 295+ in a 10" circle at 40 yards shooting 2.75" with 1 3/8oz. TSS #9s over 1,100 fps.
Way less recoil from the 20 gauge and as Spitten said nicer to carry.
Quote from: paboxcall on April 14, 2020, 02:19:04 PM
The TSS difference?
- In my 12 gauge, I was patterning 275+ in a 10" circle at 40 yards shooting 3" with 2oz. Hevi #7s under 1,100 fps.
- In my new 20 gauge, I'm patterning 295+ in a 10" circle at 40 yards shooting 2.75" with 1 3/8oz. TSS #9s over 1,100 fps.
Way less recoil from the 20 gauge and as Spitten said nicer to carry.
Deep clean that bore. I bet it jumps up immensely with the proper choke. But, you've still got a great pattern at 295.
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Quote from: wvmntnhick on April 15, 2020, 09:00:06 PM
Deep clean that bore. I bet it jumps up immensely with the proper choke. But, you've still got a great pattern at 295.
I know WV, Clark told me the same thing. Probably improve that by 10%. I did give a good soak with Butch's bore shine, and a long scrub with a cleaning rod but wow was it filthy for a new barrel.
Quote from: paboxcall on April 15, 2020, 09:10:05 PM
Quote from: wvmntnhick on April 15, 2020, 09:00:06 PM
Deep clean that bore. I bet it jumps up immensely with the proper choke. But, you've still got a great pattern at 295.
I know WV, Clark told me the same thing. Probably improve that by 10%. I did give a good soak with Butch's bore shine, and a long scrub with a cleaning rod but wow was it filthy for a new barrel.
New barrels are like cell phones and door knobs. Dirty as can be. Not sure what new Remington bores are like but I know that mossberg are rough as all get out. I had to do some serious work on my 835 and it's an older gun. It does very well now but needs cleaned again.
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