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Title: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Delmar ODonnell on April 11, 2020, 06:37:52 PM
In the past week alone I have found three different beards on the ground from dead gobblers, two of which were relatively close together. The one I found today had been through either a coyote or bobcat, but the others hadn't been eaten. There was no other evidence of a turkey being killed, so I guess the beards have a longer shelf life before decomposing in the woods.

Turkeys have a lot of odds to beat just to make it to 2 years old, so it hurts seeing mature gobblers being killed on top of the hunting pressure they receive. Listening to Michael Chamberlain's podcast, he said that 2-3 out of every 15 gobblers in their study would be killed by owls, which surprised me. Anybody else find anything similar?
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Brian Fahs on April 11, 2020, 06:41:23 PM
Very interesting.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: saverx on April 11, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
More likely coyote scat that ate a skunk is what you are seeing.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Tom007 on April 11, 2020, 08:17:28 PM
Wow, interesting
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Spitten and drummen on April 11, 2020, 08:37:27 PM
I dont doubt it. A wild turkey has almost zero percent chance for a future. Its amazing that their species even exist.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: guesswho on April 11, 2020, 08:47:45 PM
I've never found just a beard, but I have found headless turkeys.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49762256793_01038aff68_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Spitten and drummen on April 11, 2020, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 11, 2020, 08:47:45 PM
I've never found just a beard, but I have found headless turkeys.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49762256793_01038aff68_c.jpg)



You think owl killed? That would be my guess.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: deerhunt1988 on April 11, 2020, 08:58:35 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 11, 2020, 08:47:45 PM
I've never found just a beard, but I have found headless turkeys.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49762256793_01038aff68_c.jpg)
Very interesting, thanks for sharing! Always wondered what an owl predated turkey would look like.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: guesswho on April 11, 2020, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 11, 2020, 08:50:11 PM
You think owl killed? That would be my guess.
That would be my guess as well.   I've seen hawk killed chickens and they were the same way.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: bear hunter on April 11, 2020, 09:05:08 PM
I once found a beard like you mentioned with only a few feathers around it.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Greg Massey on April 11, 2020, 09:06:54 PM
Never have seen one or found one dead from predators , but i'm sure it happens .
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Brian Fahs on April 11, 2020, 09:20:08 PM
I've heard of owl killed turkeys found by other hunters. Never found one myself. Only the heads are eaten or taken.

Seems they are most likely killed while on the roost at night
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: tracker vi on April 11, 2020, 09:26:59 PM
The 2nd bird I killed the beard broke off while carrying him out .Made for some tense time at the checking station.Ranger asked "were's the beard ?Told him"had one when I shot it". Found it later that day , laying in the road.             
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: crow on April 12, 2020, 11:53:36 PM
Quote from: guesswho on April 11, 2020, 08:47:45 PM
I've never found just a beard, but I have found headless turkeys.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49762256793_01038aff68_c.jpg)



Is this one of your TSS reloads, what choke and how many ounces?
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: J.D. Shellnut on April 13, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Do you have hogs in your area??? Not saying this is what it is. But hog hair ran through a coyote looks a lot like a turkey beard.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: Delmar ODonnell on April 13, 2020, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: J.D. Shellnut on April 13, 2020, 08:52:14 AM
Do you have hogs in your area??? Not saying this is what it is. But hog hair ran through a coyote looks a lot like a turkey beard.

Not in this area. I was skeptical when I found them, but they clearly still had the piece of white flesh still holding all the strands together at the end. Love the username by the way; watched Sling Blade last night.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: J.D. Shellnut on April 13, 2020, 04:30:56 PM
Leave them Piggly Wiggly's alone!!! lol
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: brittman on April 13, 2020, 05:11:48 PM
Any chance the two dead gobblers died from gun shot wounds (not initially fatal) ??

Misses are not always misses.
Title: Re: Finding beards from naturally-killed gobblers
Post by: ferocious calls on April 13, 2020, 05:58:00 PM
Owls kill many turkeys. They have killed several of my turkeys.