Over the last couple of years we've seen a big increase in the number of coyotes on our hunting property and it seems that Gobblers are not gobbling as much when they hit the ground as they did in years past. Do you think this could be attributed to the increase in the number of coyotes?
Most likely, that's why I try to do my part in removing some every year.
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It is my belief without a doubt. Kill every one of those mangy vermin that you can. Reduce the number of yotes , bobcats and fox and you will see a difference I would bet.
It definitely makes hunting a lot more difficult. Killed a couple last year that never gobbled. It makes for a more exciting hunt when you can hear them coming your way.
My thoughts exactly. We are covered up in coyotes around here. I killed a couple yotes few weeks ago. Two mornings last week saw a pair right here again.
My thoughts exactly. We are covered up in coyotes around here. I killed a couple yotes few weeks ago. Two mornings last week saw a pair right here again.
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i saw a coyote out on the ice about 3 weeks ago. it was about 100 yards out from shore on the right hand side of this picture. damn things are everywhere
We talked with a biologist that said the numbers are increasing because they are breeding with stray or feral dogs and as a result the numbers are increasing exponentially.
Predator control is a must
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I have been noticing this for atleast 10 years now. I have called Coyotes in that were actually looking up into the trees for birds. Gobbling is almost a thing of the past by me. I know there are birds around but after fly down it is rare to hear a gobble anymore.
I was hunting some nf land near my house last weekend watching some birds across a field when a yote ran out right at dark and grabbed a hen. The birds flew and ran in every direction. The next two days were silent no gobbling and hardly a sight of birds
Not hearing turkeys definitely takes some of the enjoyment out of the hunt. Like others have said, I know they are around, but when I don't hear them, I get frustrated and want to move to another spot to see if I can hear one gobble and end up running turkeys off when leaving the area. It makes the turkeys much smarter and that much harder to hunt.
I think turkeys are just gobbling less and i'm sure the predators play a big part.
You do realize birds gobble to attract hens to breed. Just saying
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Of course. Thanks for the hunting lesson.
Quote from: fallhnt on March 28, 2020, 11:38:59 PM
You do realize birds gobble to attract hens to breed. Just saying
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And if they have a bunch of hens they tend not to gobble so much.
Predator control definitely helps with the turkey woods. I've had plenty of ruined hunts thanks to coyotes!
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on March 28, 2020, 09:08:49 PM
It is my belief without a doubt. Kill every one of those mangy vermin that you can. Reduce the number of yotes , bobcats and fox and you will see a difference I would bet.
I have no doubt but that coyotes eat a fair number of turkeys...
But, when you reduce the number of yotes, you will likely see increasing numbers of coons, possums, and skunks (egg eaters), as well as foxes and bobcats (both of which seem to be more proficient turkey hunters).
The number of yotes in my area is absurd, and I would not at all be opposed to decreasing the numbers, but I do remain unconvinced that killing every yote would be beneficial.
I do feel that predator interaction can make a difference in bird behavior though. I noticed that one ranch I hunted engaged in active coyote control, and birds were far more vocal than just down the road with very large numbers of coyotes... I also feel that birds (hens & toms) are more vocal on the limb, and less vocal on the ground with large predator populations.
I stay on coyotes where I hunt and even go to the National Forest to hunt them when other seasons are in such as turkey season after I tag out. Don't have as many in my area of the East but am always looking for a new place to hunt.