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Title: Gnats?
Post by: 3bailey3 on March 23, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
any thing to help with biting gnats? they were bad last season but worse this year. I have tried some deet wipes and spray with no help.
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Post by: RutnNStrutn on March 23, 2020, 06:58:05 PM
We don't have "biting" gnats where I hunt in the Lowcountry, but we have a gazillion annoying gnats that buzz around your head and drive you crazy. The only product I know of that works is called No Natz. It's all natural, using different plant oils. It works great!! It's available on Amazon if you can't find it locally.
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Post by: Dtrkyman on March 23, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Buggins!  keep it with you and apply often.  Menthol works also.
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Post by: LaLongbeard on March 23, 2020, 07:13:13 PM
I got a sea to  summit headnet that works pretty good. I usually wear a boonie hat and the head net goes over keeping the gnats off your ears and face. It's black but you can see out no problem.
    Most years the mosquitos and gnats ain't bad till the end if season...but this one looks to be a bad one. Thermocell will be mandatory
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Post by: Sir-diealot on March 23, 2020, 07:22:47 PM
What are the thoughts on Rynoskins? I use them because they are black, thin and lightweight in the blind, but bugs have not been a problem the last two years so I have no real way to say.
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Post by: strum on March 23, 2020, 07:24:58 PM
 when they get bad here in ga I carry a thermacell.
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Post by: bigriverbum on March 23, 2020, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: Dtrkyman on March 23, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Buggins!  keep it with you and apply often.  Menthol works also.

trout fishing in wisconsin the biting gnats can drive a man insane.

buggins works good. anything with vanilla in it. i stole perfume from my mom once because it worked so well on the gnats

i have also taken bounce drier sheets/fabric softener sheets and tied them to my hat.
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Post by: silvestris on March 23, 2020, 09:33:23 PM
Bailey, they are not Gnats, they are Midges.  I recommend a Ben's InvisiNet to use when walking on woods roads or any open area.  They are about $10.  The Midges aren't much of a problem once you set up in the shade in the woods off of a road.  Like mosquitos, the Midges are attracted by the Carbon Monoxide that is produced as you exhale, but for some reason, they tend to gather in open areas so they can molest those who hunt from popup blinds.  How's it going man?
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Post by: 3bailey3 on March 23, 2020, 09:37:09 PM
you are right Sil, they only attack while I am walking not set up, Sil all is well one bird down and that's way early for me..
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Post by: Greg Massey on March 23, 2020, 10:17:09 PM
Those things are worst than mosquito sometimes , buzzing around your head , like small plane..LOL..
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Post by: merriamsman on March 23, 2020, 10:36:38 PM
Avon Skin So Soft - guaranteed to keep biting gnats away. I've used it for years in Montana along the lower Yellowstone River where biting gnats are horrendous. I've tried everything and the Skin So Soft is amazingly effective.
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Post by: Paulmyr on March 23, 2020, 10:38:08 PM
Quote from: bigriverbum on March 23, 2020, 07:37:43 PM
Quote from: Dtrkyman on March 23, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Buggins!  keep it with you and apply often.  Menthol works also.

trout fishing in wisconsin the biting gnats can drive a man insane.

buggins works good. anything with vanilla in it. i stole perfume from my mom once because it worked so well on the gnats

i have also taken bounce drier sheets/fabric softener sheets and tied them to my hat.
I've also found out from my trout fishing endeavors that if you wear a hat with a brim that circles the hat it tends to keep the gnats above your head. It's not fool proof but works better than a baseball cap. I found after switching to a packer hat that the number of gnat bites behind my ears were dramatically reduced.
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Post by: dublelung on March 24, 2020, 08:43:13 AM
The ones Sil talk about are horrible down here this year. I had a gobbler over my shoulder Sat morning and they were as bad as I've ever seen them. I'm not sure if they were attracted to the gobbler butthole or my head. I told my wife about it and she said there wasn't much difference anyway.   :-)
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Post by: rakkin6 on March 24, 2020, 08:58:20 AM
I use permithrin on outer layer of clothes deep woods off on base layer and thermacell.

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Post by: ManfromGreenSwamp on March 24, 2020, 09:22:13 AM
Bugtamer


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Title: Re: Gnats?
Post by: catman529 on March 24, 2020, 09:43:40 AM
Are you in bama? Gnats were bad where I was this past weekend. They wouldn't bite unless they got in the crease between my forehead and my hat. DEET kept them from landing on me, but they still hovered around.


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Post by: g8rvet on March 24, 2020, 12:03:43 PM
What is a biting gnat?  Is that a no-see-um? 
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Post by: THattaway on March 24, 2020, 12:06:14 PM
No see ums, zoo zoo flies, dog pecker gnats in your eyes and face?

Two choices: Thermacell or cut a hole in the seat of your pants.
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Post by: g8rvet on March 24, 2020, 12:24:13 PM
Now I am even more confused. 

Florida terms:
Mosquito - two types-the little one and one large enough to stand flat footed and rape a buzzard.  the little ones are more plentiful. 
Blind Mosquito - annoying, does not bite
No-see-um (sand fly or sand gnat depending on where in FL you are from)- mostly coastal.  is very small, smaller than what we call a gnat and is basically a set of wings supporting a set of teeth. 
Gnat - (also dog pecker gnats) - annoying as heck, flies in your eyes and up your nose - does not bite
Deer fly, yellow fly, horse fly - all related, but different sizes-bite
Face fly,horn fly-mostly animals - looks like house fly
Dog fly (stable fly)-attacks what it can get, mostly coastal and hurts like heck when it bites, also looks like house fly

thermacell works on no-see-ums and Mosquitos.  Not much on yellow flies and deer flies.  Dog flies eat us up in the summer at the coast on a calm day and when they are bad, we just leave because you can't coat down enough with spray and thermacell does nothing.
Title: Re: Gnats?
Post by: RutnNStrutn on March 24, 2020, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on March 24, 2020, 12:24:13 PM
Now I am even more confused. 

Florida terms:
Mosquito - two types-the little one and one large enough to stand flat footed and rape a buzzard.  the little ones are more plentiful. 
Blind Mosquito - annoying, does not bite
No-see-um (sand fly or sand gnat depending on where in FL you are from)- mostly coastal.  is very small, smaller than what we call a gnat and is basically a set of wings supporting a set of teeth. 
Gnat - (also dog pecker gnats) - annoying as heck, flies in your eyes and up your nose - does not bite
Deer fly, yellow fly, horse fly - all related, but different sizes-bite
Face fly,horn fly-mostly animals - looks like house fly
Dog fly (stable fly)-attacks what it can get, mostly coastal and hurts like heck when it bites, also looks like house fly

thermacell works on no-see-ums and Mosquitos.  Not much on yellow flies and deer flies.  Dog flies eat us up in the summer at the coast on a calm day and when they are bad, we just leave because you can't coat down enough with spray and thermacell does nothing.
Larry, try a product called No Natz. It's available both locally and on Amazon. Works great for gnats, and is natural.
I was hunting St. Marks years ago and it was hot. I had just gotten my first Big Tamer suit, the one with the bigger mesh. It was so hot, I just wore a pair of green boxers and my Big Tamer suit. The no see ums chased me out of the tree and back to the truck!!!

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Post by: merriamsman on March 24, 2020, 03:07:01 PM
I'm telling y'all, Avon Skin So Soft is the ticket for gnats. It doesn't work on mosquitoes though.
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Post by: g8rvet on March 24, 2020, 05:18:46 PM
No Natz works for skeeters too.  I keep one in my truck door Jim!.  One of Off Family Care (picarid - I can't use DEET) and one of No Natz.  No Natz does not last quite as long, but it works well.  All the convenience stores around here that are anywhere near the coast carry it.   It is awesome for just plain gnats too.
Title: Re: Gnats?
Post by: 3bailey3 on March 25, 2020, 09:51:00 PM
so I tried No Natz today, the first day I didn't get bit, thanks for the heads up!
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Post by: silvestris on March 25, 2020, 10:01:16 PM
To repeat myself, they are Midges, not gnats, and there are some interesting sites on the bloodsuckers.  As one might expect, it is only the females that bite.
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Post by: g8rvet on March 26, 2020, 05:06:25 PM
Never heard them called a midge.  Looked it up and see folks call them "biting midges".  Never heard that term.  What part of the country are you from?  just curious
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Post by: J.D. Shellnut on March 30, 2020, 12:31:17 PM
Vanilla extract works!
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Post by: silvestris on March 30, 2020, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on March 26, 2020, 05:06:25 PM
Never heard them called a midge.  Looked it up and see folks call them "biting midges".  Never heard that term.  What part of the country are you from?  just curious

S/W Mississippi/East Central Louisiana.  They didn't get real bad until the Corp of Engineers forgot how to dredge the Mississippi River.  High river=biting Midges.
Title: Re: Gnats?
Post by: g8rvet on March 30, 2020, 01:30:47 PM
I never see them where I live, only an hour from the coast. Head down there and they will eat you up. 
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Post by: fallhnt on March 30, 2020, 01:43:20 PM
Black buffalo gnats are the killer ones. I've read stories that claimed,in Lincolns day, the sky's were dark with them. Now that the water ways aren't as polluted they have made a big comeback. When they bit me ,the bit area swells up and itches.

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Post by: TonyTurk on March 30, 2020, 02:07:46 PM
I deal with biting Buffalo gnats in western OK.  They ignore my Thermacell and can make hunting downright miserable.  My best defense is a wide brimmed hat with a fine mesh net over it.  The hat brim keeps the mesh away from my face.  I have found that if the mesh is against my skin they will bite me through the mesh.  Hate those lil buggers.
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Post by: ManfromGreenSwamp on March 30, 2020, 02:44:26 PM
Have had none in Florida but in GA for the opener they were terrible!!!!!


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Post by: StruttinGobbler3 on March 30, 2020, 03:12:35 PM
No Natz is a good one, as has been previously mentioned. In my opinion there is a spray better than no natz that should work for you. It's called homie juice. Yes, I'm dead serious, that is not a joke. Look it up on google, I believe amazon carries it. I bought a bottle the first time just because the name was funny and I wanted to show it to people. But the stuff actually works great.


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Post by: g8rvet on March 30, 2020, 04:33:59 PM
Do you have the ingredients for homie juice?  I could not find it online.
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Post by: Howie g on March 30, 2020, 09:58:19 PM
Nothing seems to work very well here in SW Ms ,  they normally don't get bad until the last few days of season , but the river is high and gotten hot early this year . They out with a vengeance this year !