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Title: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 11:14:58 AM
I have been hunting public land two seasons in a row now and still haven't taken a bird. They gobble on the roost and as soon as they fly down they just disappear. Now i have played the waiting game and tried decoys, calling a little and calling a lot, walking around and still cant strike a hot bird. Believe me between my friend and I have tried everything we can think of. So I am reaching out to others, if anyone can give any tips please do because i am desperate.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: Spellnj3 on May 10, 2011, 11:28:40 AM
I'm in one of those seasons now, I've got tons of birds, heard at least 10 on the roost yesterday...and they talk and talk and talk but they won't come in to the gun.  that's turkey hunting.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: Spellnj3 on May 10, 2011, 11:29:12 AM
Sometimes you just have to be lucky...even a blind squirrel finds a nut one in a while!!
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 03:27:24 PM
Wow, I got recommended to this site for that feed back, I was told there are some real hunters on here. So yeah there is luck in all hunting but i know someone out there has had simalar situations to this. These birds go against what all the books and people say about turkey hunting, now I know someone out there has something better to say than that.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: Trevor2 on May 10, 2011, 03:33:15 PM
Sounds like they are henned up and you are already doing everything you can to fool that ol tom and bring him to you. Idk anything that you could do differently, other than get close enough to his roost to watch him fly down then swing around and cut him off.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: strutnva on May 10, 2011, 03:34:21 PM
Evening hunting in VA is legal the last 2 weeks, hunt the roost sites that you have heard birds in and soft call, a blind or build one will probably be a good idea to remain hidden.  One hen decoy in front and be ready, very likely to come in silent.  There is no cover-all tatic but should be a good start if you have time to try it.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: WyoHunter on May 10, 2011, 03:46:39 PM
My solution to this situation is to observe and see where the birds are heading after they leave the roost and then position myself in their path. It's worked for me in the past in this situation. I prefer to have a bird come to the call but when all else fails I go to Plan B. Remember it's called turkey hunting for a reason and you're not restricted to calling only. Use your hunting and woodsmanship skills to bag this bird!
:fud: :newmascot:
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: turkey_slayer on May 10, 2011, 03:54:22 PM
They are just henned up.  I hunt a few places on national forest that get pounded hard.  The birds are still killable and dont shut up cause they are "hunter shy". They shut up cause they already have what they need.  You dont pattern birds here cause they rarely roost in the same spots much less travel the same routes.  Best thing to do is get in as close as possible without spooking them then let them tell you what you want to do.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 04:24:41 PM
Thanks guys, now thats what I am talking about. The only trouble is with a couple things is that it is wide open and then tighter than anything in there and the past two morning i have been they wont even gobble on the roost, could the last couple days of the season be over for me?
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: Trevor2 on May 10, 2011, 04:29:45 PM
Idk bout where you are but my season ends here in tn this sunday at dusk, and ill be after them at least in the mornings all weekend, still gobbling good here or at least they was friday morning lol
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 04:32:00 PM
I am in southeastern Virginia.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: Trevor2 on May 10, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
Not too awful far apart then, I'm in NE Tn.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: turkey_slayer on May 10, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
Nah its never over till its over lol.  Theres still gobblers gobbling and strutting  with hens here in late june. If they dont gobble on the roost then yes it can be tough.  If its the only place you got then stay with it.  If not I would try a few other spots to find one more willing to die.  Have you tried roosting them in the evening?
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
i have tried to stay as late as possible but I am military and so is my wife and I have a 1 year old with one vehicle, not a good combo. I know the birds are there I just need to pull them in, is there anything that is fool proof with a turkey? something they can't stop there self from coming into or gobbling to?
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: turkey_slayer on May 10, 2011, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
i have tried to stay as late as possible but I am military and so is my wife and I have a 1 year old with one vehicle, not a good combo. I know the birds are there I just need to pull them in, is there anything that is fool proof with a turkey? something they can't stop there self from coming into or gobbling to?

Nope buts thats what fun about it.  Nothing is guaranteed  ;D
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 05:05:26 PM
Your right and thats what keeps me coming back!
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: socalturkeyman on May 11, 2011, 10:27:04 PM
I hunt Public land in California and I try to almost sit right under the tree they roost in. And only cluck a few times,Its worked for me before.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 12, 2011, 11:41:42 AM
Well believe me, next season I will every bird on this property patterned to the t. I am not going to go another season without a bird. Now its time to just focus on Deer season and I have seen some excellent sign!!!
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: Solid Snake on May 12, 2011, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
i have tried to stay as late as possible but I am military and so is my wife and I have a 1 year old with one vehicle, not a good combo. I know the birds are there I just need to pull them in, is there anything that is fool proof with a turkey? something they can't stop there self from coming into or gobbling to?

Try the squealing hen call - the commercial says the gobblers can't resist it...
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: bdesanto16 on May 12, 2011, 01:22:39 PM
Yeah my buddy and I heard about that so we picked one up and it says once you start u cant stop so we were sqeeling on that thing for over an hour, i think we scared every bird in a 100 mile radius, LOL! Well its got to work for some one right.
Title: Re: Stubborn birds
Post by: WyoHunter on May 12, 2011, 05:32:07 PM
Quote from: bdesanto16 on May 10, 2011, 04:40:58 PM
i have tried to stay as late as possible but I am military and so is my wife and I have a 1 year old with one vehicle, not a good combo. I know the birds are there I just need to pull them in, is there anything that is fool proof with a turkey? something they can't stop there self from coming into or gobbling to?
Foolproof? If there was you could sell it and make a million. I've killed three birds in three days in three states. I bought an extra tag for an area I like to hunt and haven't even heard a gobble in two trips to the area. We have a week left in the season and I'm going back for a couple of days to try again. Oh by the way if you do come up with a sure fire fool proof guaranteed way to kill a gobbler let me know!