We have a bit of private land and I would like to put out some feed of some kind this week as our season is three weeks away but lately we have been over run with hogs. Much worse than any year before now. Is there anything I can put out that the turkeys would eat but the hogs wouldn't just devour? Anything corn related I know they will destroy. I hate hogs.
Try using cracked corn.
Wild hogs are terrible , good luck with finding something they can't eat .. you could try wheat ...
Baiting is baiting.
Didn't say I was planning to hunt over it. I won't be hunting the property until over a month past the time I would put something out. But I appreciate your sage wisdom on the topic.
On the property my family just sold down here in south florida i was covered up with hogs. The will eat cracked corn but wont get all of it, which leaves some for other critters. Found out by accident trying to keep cows off it. Deer and turkey will also eat it but obviously wont get much.
I was lucky my hogs stayed nocturnal, maybe try altering or adding feed times?
Looks to me like you have two choices. The first is to get rid of the hogs, which sounds to me like an unrealistic approach. That would be the ideal, long-term solution,...and based on past discussions here, may be the only way you will not see a decline in your turkey population in the area over time.
The other choice you have,...one that is more feasible for you probably,...is to create an exclosure (i.e....put a hog-proof fence around your feed station) to allow the turkeys to get in (they will learn to fly over the fence) but will keep the hogs out.
The best solution is to do both. That is, start trapping the hogs and until you have them under control or eradicated, and in the meantime put up the exclosure around your feed station. Regardless, you are going to have to invest some time and money to solve your problem.
I'm not sure about hogs but when trying to feed deer and get the bears to leave it alone we spread it out over a larger area and the bears don't like having to work so hard for it. I would imagine hogs might be the same way. Get the smallest thing you can find-bird seed maybe and spread it out real thin in over a large area. The hogs wont be able to clean it all up even if they try.
Also it doesn't take long b4 hogs go nocturnal, usually one of two hunts so hunt them a time or two and they will at least leave the feed alone during the day.
Thanks, guys. We are absolutely slap run over with hogs lately. Not surprisingly our turkey population has nosedived over the last 5-7 but I think some of that is on par with what others have seen in the state regardless. But the hogs aren't helping I'm sure.
I have a guy that hunts them with dogs that comes out occasionally and we shoot them during deer season no questions asked when/if we see one. But we do need to start trapping for sure. I was thinking maybe some large bags of wheat as suggested down some of the roads spread out a lot or even the birdseed idea.
I don't plan on feeding the turkeys year-round and certainly not during the season so this would just be a one-off type deal, for now, to feed them a month in advance of the season. Did I mention I HATE hogs?
Omg now we're discussing bait. Idk boys just ain't right if you ask me
I despise hogs. They've infested South Georgia. Running dogs can help to a degree, but they only catch a few and scatter the rest. Won't be long before they're right back on you. Most hogs get educated to trapping quickly. It's expensive but the most effective way to kill hogs in numbers is to go the nightvision and thermal route. Mount the night scopes on automatic rifles and find the groups in open fields at night.
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Quote from: Bowguy on February 26, 2020, 09:45:09 AM
Omg now we're discussing bait. Idk boys just ain't right if you ask me
Again, I'm not hunting over it. There are guys with private land that feed from 300 poound feeders year round for deer and turkey. I'm talking about a bag of bird seed a month before the season on 300 acres of private land and now I'm an outlaw. I know for a fact my neighbors do the above mentioned but my ethics won't let me do that
To me bait is bait. Having it 30 yards or 300 yards away it's still not right.
Quote from: northms on February 26, 2020, 11:04:19 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 26, 2020, 09:45:09 AM
Omg now we're discussing bait. Idk boys just ain't right if you ask me
Again, I'm not hunting over it. There are guys with private land that feed from 300 poound feeders year round for deer and turkey. I'm talking about a bag of bird seed a month before the season on 300 acres of private land and now I'm an outlaw. I know for a fact my neighbors do the above mentioned but my ethics won't let me do that
You see because others are doing it and youre doing it less, to me is still wrong. We're trying to justify bad behavior cause everyone else is doing it. That's today's problem.
When I was a kid I was taught were only responsible for our actions and that's a fact.
The example given to me was if I was driving and speeding and it caused me to be pulled over, I couldn't say but that car was going faster. I was still wrong. Baiting anything is still wrong no matter the circumstances except for non sporting endeavors. We're sport hunting. Keep it sporting
We raised domestic hogs and they would eat anything except onions. Time to go hog hunting!!!!
Quote from: Bowguy on February 26, 2020, 09:45:09 AM
Omg now we're discussing bait. Idk boys just ain't right if you ask me
Agreed
What do think one bag of bird seed a month before the season is going to accomplish? Putting any amount of bird seed,wheat,corn anything edible during the season is baiting rather you hunt directly over it or not.
Quote from: bbcoach on February 26, 2020, 08:03:05 PM
We raised domestic hogs and they would eat anything except onions. Time to go hog hunting!!!!
And zucchini
the above is correct - hogs will eat just about anything
spreading it around won't help - the hogs will just tear up a larger area
an enclosure around the feeder will keep the hogs out for awhile but if they want it
they will dig under
start hunting and trapping the hogs to knock down their population
is the only way to help but it's also correct that as the hog numbers go up
the turkeys will go down
Black sunflower seeds. Hogs don't seem to go after them like corn, and its crack to turkeys.
try feeding those hogs 150 grains of lead,
Why are you feeding them? Game camera pics possibly?!
Why not turn your baiting neighbors over to the authorities. :z-twocents:
Check your pm, Northms
Quote from: GobbleNut on February 26, 2020, 08:00:15 AM
Looks to me like you have two choices. The first is to get rid of the hogs, which sounds to me like an unrealistic approach. That would be the ideal, long-term solution,...and based on past discussions here, may be the only way you will not see a decline in your turkey population in the area over time.
The other choice you have,...one that is more feasible for you probably,...is to create an exclosure (i.e....put a hog-proof fence around your feed station) to allow the turkeys to get in (they will learn to fly over the fence) but will keep the hogs out.
The best solution is to do both. That is, start trapping the hogs and until you have them under control or eradicated, and in the meantime put up the exclosure around your feed station. Regardless, you are going to have to invest some time and money to solve your problem.
#3 Would be learn how to call them so you don't need bait??
What I am really wondering is how many folks here that are condemning spreading feed for turkeys are the same ones that are going to be sitting on a food plot or some farmers corn field in a pop-up blind in another month or two?...
When every farm in the whole state is already a food plot wherever Turkey's want to go it's a little different than every farm in the state doesn't have a certain type of food and then your throwing it out for them.
Who's place will they be on ???Yours or the neighbor who is hunting without baiting.
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on February 28, 2020, 02:32:45 PM
When every farm in the whole state is already a food plot wherever Turkey's want to go it's a little different than every farm in the state doesn't have a certain type of food and then your throwing it out for them.
Who's place will they be on ???Yours or the neighbor who is hunting without baiting.
Sure, there are places across the country where that situation exists,...but there are as many or more places where turkeys are on a property solely because of food plots or crops being planted to hold them there. The distinction between that and a guy throwing out some feed is pretty gray in my book. Making a distinction between setting up on a food plot or agricultural crop specifically planted to attract turkeys,...as compared to setting up over a pile of grain thrown out for the same purpose? Well, they are both baiting from my perspective. One is just a bit more obvious than the other.
That is not to say that property owners should never make habitat improvements on their properties for the benefit of turkeys. To me, those improvements just can't become a means for killing those turkeys, whether it be a planted crop or the spreading of feed. When folks start making the distinction between those two things to justify their hunting methods, that is when they've lost me.
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Quote from: GobbleNut on February 26, 2020, 08:00:15 AM
Looks to me like you have two choices. The first is to get rid of the hogs, which sounds to me like an unrealistic approach. That would be the ideal, long-term solution,...and based on past discussions here, may be the only way you will not see a decline in your turkey population in the area over time.
The other choice you have,...one that is more feasible for you probably,...is to create an exclosure (i.e....put a hog-proof fence around your feed station) to allow the turkeys to get in (they will learn to fly over the fence) but will keep the hogs out.
The best solution is to do both. That is, start trapping the hogs and until you have them under control or eradicated, and in the meantime put up the exclosure around your feed station. Regardless, you are going to have to invest some time and money to solve your problem.
#3 Would be learn how to call them so you don't need bait??
Lol
Planting a food plot and baiting are 2 total different things lol. So if you own a property that turkeys don't frequent You're just to accept that and not do anything about it?! And if you do plant something that's ok. You just shouldn't hunt it?! That's the craziest logic I've ever heard
I hunt my brothers with lots of Turkeys. If he didn't have any I'm going somewhere else to hunt them that does. Why would I plant a acre or two and sit right next to it? I'm not calling them in then im just killing one. Might as well go to the store,but if thats the way you have to kill one have at it if it gives you satisfaction.
In the end, I suppose, it is all about someone's perspective based on where he lives and the conditions under which he hunts. I do know one thing for sure. Out here there is no distinction between planting a food crop solely to attract turkeys (or other wildlife) and then shooting them over it and throwing out corn or other food to attract turkeys for the same purpose.
It is all about intent. If the intent of either practice is to create a spot that unnaturally attracts turkeys and you plan on hunting there, both classify as baiting to me. Granted, one is a little more "borderline" than the other.
Another argument made is that he is pulling turkeys off of adjacent properties by throwing out seed to attract them. So, what about the guy who is planting food plots when his neighbors aren't doing that? It accomplishes the exact same thing! Yet, one practice is considered to be "noble" and the other is condemned. Why is that? It could be that the corn-thrower just does not have the time or inclination to plant food plots on his property, but in either case, the end result is the same.
Now, I completely buy the argument that having food plots creates habitat that helps wild turkeys. Do it for that purpose and all is well in my mind. Start sitting on those food plots to kill turkeys because you know they will show up there,...well, that's a different story. Whether or not you can justify it in your own mind that it is okay makes no difference to some of us. It is still baiting,...one just seems to be more acceptable to some than others.
Quote from: northms on February 25, 2020, 10:13:19 PM
We have a bit of private land and I would like to put out some feed of some kind this week as our season is three weeks away but lately we have been over run with hogs. Much worse than any year before now. Is there anything I can put out that the turkeys would eat but the hogs wouldn't just devour? Anything corn related I know they will destroy. I hate hogs.
I do not know if there anything a turkey will eat that a hog will not eat.
But you can plow some strips with a harrow, spread something not terribly expensive like wheat or oats, and then plow it in lightly. Perhaps then spread a little seed lightly on top. The turkeys will scratch for it. The hogs might root in there too, but they won't be able to eat it as easily as the turkeys will.
Quote from: northms on February 26, 2020, 09:43:12 AM
Thanks, guys. We are absolutely slap run over with hogs lately. Not surprisingly our turkey population has nosedived over the last 5-7 but I think some of that is on par with what others have seen in the state regardless. But the hogs aren't helping I'm sure.
I have a guy that hunts them with dogs that comes out occasionally and we shoot them during deer season no questions asked when/if we see one. But we do need to start trapping for sure. I was thinking maybe some large bags of wheat as suggested down some of the roads spread out a lot or even the birdseed idea.
I don't plan on feeding the turkeys year-round and certainly not during the season so this would just be a one-off type deal, for now, to feed them a month in advance of the season. Did I mention I HATE hogs?
Well, you should invite some of your turkey forum friends to shoot the hogs between deer season and turkey season.
Quote from: Swather on February 29, 2020, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: northms on February 26, 2020, 09:43:12 AM
Thanks, guys. We are absolutely slap run over with hogs lately. Not surprisingly our turkey population has nosedived over the last 5-7 but I think some of that is on par with what others have seen in the state regardless. But the hogs aren't helping I'm sure.
I have a guy that hunts them with dogs that comes out occasionally and we shoot them during deer season no questions asked when/if we see one. But we do need to start trapping for sure. I was thinking maybe some large bags of wheat as suggested down some of the roads spread out a lot or even the birdseed idea.
I don't plan on feeding the turkeys year-round and certainly not during the season so this would just be a one-off type deal, for now, to feed them a month in advance of the season. Did I mention I HATE hogs?
Well, you should invite some of your turkey forum friends to shoot the hogs between deer season and turkey season.
If you want some hogs to eat, shooting them is fine, but you won't control their numbers. You have to trap whole sounders at one time to have any real effect on the population.
Again, not that it seems to matter at this point to some, but I have no plan to hunt over bait. Every turkey I killed last year was on MS public land. This was regarding putting some feed out more than a month before I would be hunting the area due to the 100% fact that I know my neighbors are pouring the corn like a dump truck. To the guys saying learn to hunt better and learn to call you make me laugh reading that.
I likely will forgo putting out any feed due to the hog situation regardless but for some of you to act like you're above putting out any supplemental feed a month or more before hunting on private land, or at any other point in the year to keep them in the area, is comical. I didn't know I was such an outlaw. ::)
Quote from: northms on February 29, 2020, 09:07:44 PM
some of you to act like you're above putting out any supplemental feed a month or more before hunting on private land, or at any other point in the year to keep them in the area, is comical.
What I find comical is you thinking anyone believes you were not looking for a way to bait turkeys during the season. And yes most of the hunters on this forum are above baiting to kill a turkey. But every year there's at least one person trying convince themselves or anyone else that baiting is ok. I don't care if you planted it or poured it out of a bag if you spend your time sitting on a food source to kill turkeys your baiting.
LA, you can believe what you want my friend if it helps you paint me as a villain. I know who I am ethically and sleep just fine. I hope you have a safe season and limit out. You and I probably have much more in common, like our love of turkey hunting and the outdoors, than what we differ on like squabbles like this. I hope you have a blessed season.
Man there some self righteous people on this forum!!!! I never thought I'd see the day where a planted food plot was baiting but I guess that day has come
Quote from: drake799 on March 01, 2020, 09:12:08 AM
Man there some self righteous people on this forum!!!! I never thought I'd see the day where a planted food plot was baiting but I guess that day has come
I have commented on this, so I want to clarify my position. First of all, I am fine with food plots and folks that hunt over them. I am also fine with people that throw out feed of some sort to attract turkeys to their property. My position is that IF you hunt over either one of them, they are both a form of baiting. One may be considered legal and the other one not, but the bottom line is they both serve the same purpose,...that is to unnaturally attract turkeys to a specific location.
If you go to a food plot and sit there knowing full well that a gobbler is going to show up there to get a bite to eat, you are hunting over bait,...no if's, and's, or but's about it. I don't care if you do that (if it is legal), but don't fool yourself,...and please don't get offended by my personal position on the matter.
My problem with this thread is that northms was simply asking for suggestions on how to address his hog problem and some folks jumped to the conclusion that he was trying to bait turkeys. I believe he has cleared that up for those of us with some level of objectivity here.
The End....
This... trapping is the only way. You can knock out 100 of them in no time..
Quote from: Gamblinman on February 29, 2020, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: Swather on February 29, 2020, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: northms on February 26, 2020, 09:43:12 AM
Thanks, guys. We are absolutely slap run over with hogs lately. Not surprisingly our turkey population has nosedived over the last 5-7 but I think some of that is on par with what others have seen in the state regardless. But the hogs aren't helping I'm sure.
I have a guy that hunts them with dogs that comes out occasionally and we shoot them during deer season no questions asked when/if we see one. But we do need to start trapping for sure. I was thinking maybe some large bags of wheat as suggested down some of the roads spread out a lot or even the birdseed idea.
I don't plan on feeding the turkeys year-round and certainly not during the season so this would just be a one-off type deal, for now, to feed them a month in advance of the season. Did I mention I HATE hogs?
Well, you should invite some of your turkey forum friends to shoot the hogs between deer season and turkey season.
If you want some hogs to eat, shooting them is fine, but you won't control their numbers. You have to trap whole sounders at one time to have any real effect on the population.
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 01, 2020, 09:47:15 AM
Quote from: drake799 on March 01, 2020, 09:12:08 AM
Man there some self righteous people on this forum!!!! I never thought I'd see the day where a planted food plot was baiting but I guess that day has come
I have commented on this, so I want to clarify my position. First of all, I am fine with food plots and folks that hunt over them. I am also fine with people that throw out feed of some sort to attract turkeys to their property. My position is that IF you hunt over either one of them, they are both a form of baiting. One may be considered legal and the other one not, but the bottom line is they both serve the same purpose,...that is to unnaturally attract turkeys to a specific location.
If you go to a food plot and sit there knowing full well that a gobbler is going to show up there to get a bite to eat, you are hunting over bait,...no if's, and's, or but's about it. I don't care if you do that (if it is legal), but don't fool yourself,...and please don't get offended by my personal position on the matter.
My problem with this thread is that northms was simply asking for suggestions on how to address his hog problem and some folks jumped to the conclusion that he was trying to bait turkeys. I believe he has cleared that up for those of us with some level of objectivity here.
The End....
He was asking about feed for turkey that hogs would not eat.
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Quote from: drake799 on March 01, 2020, 09:12:08 AM
Man there some self righteous people on this forum!!!! I never thought I'd see the day where a planted food plot was baiting but I guess that day has come
Millennial thinking. Food plots are even a new thing and sport hunting should be sporting. No attempts at making things real easy imo. No I don't use tss, no I don't shoot far, no I don't bait, jump shoot rabbits the dogs need to circle em first, , I don't pass shoot ducks, they need to decoy, I won't shoot an upland bird without a point, don't shoot turkeys out of trees, etc etc etc. I'm not judging you either. But don't seem so incredulous some guys think different. Sport hunting should be sporting. New folks don't get it seems
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 29, 2020, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: northms on February 29, 2020, 09:07:44 PM
some of you to act like you're above putting out any supplemental feed a month or more before hunting on private land, or at any other point in the year to keep them in the area, is comical.
What I find comical is you thinking anyone believes you were not looking for a way to bait turkeys during the season. And yes most of the hunters on this forum are above baiting to kill a turkey. But every year there's at least one person trying convince themselves or anyone else that baiting is ok. I don't care if you planted it or poured it out of a bag if you spend your time sitting on a food source to kill turkeys your baiting.
This is prob close to the truth. To the op, seriously if your neighbors are putting dump trucks of bait out do you thing a simple handful of corn a month earlier might sway them to come to you?? Think about that
Quote from: northms on February 26, 2020, 09:43:12 AM
Thanks, guys. We are absolutely slap run over with hogs lately. Not surprisingly our turkey population has nosedived over the last 5-7 but I think some of that is on par with what others have seen in the state regardless. But the hogs aren't helping I'm sure.
I have a guy that hunts them with dogs that comes out occasionally and we shoot them during deer season no questions asked when/if we see one. But we do need to start trapping for sure. I was thinking maybe some large bags of wheat as suggested down some of the roads spread out a lot or even the birdseed idea.
I don't plan on feeding the turkeys year-round and certainly not during the season so this would just be a one-off type deal, for now, to feed them a month in advance of the season. Did I mention I HATE hogs?
Feb 26 and you're going to feed them a month in advance of the season? When does your season begin in that part of Mississippi? Youth season opens in 5 days.
BTW there's nothing you can feed a turkey that a hog won't eat.
Quote from: Bowguy on March 02, 2020, 07:02:04 AM
Quote from: drake799 on March 01, 2020, 09:12:08 AM
Man there some self righteous people on this forum!!!! I never thought I'd see the day where a planted food plot was baiting but I guess that day has come
Millennial thinking. Food plots are even a new thing and sport hunting should be sporting. No attempts at making things real easy imo. No I don't use tss, no I don't shoot far, no I don't bait, jump shoot rabbits the dogs need to circle em first, , I don't pass shoot ducks, they need to decoy, I won't shoot an upland bird without a point, don't shoot turkeys out of trees, etc etc etc. I'm not judging you either. But don't seem so incredulous some guys think different. Sport hunting should be sporting. New folks don't get it seems
Millennial thinkin.....LOL. I own 60 acres that I hunt a handful of times a year If hunting over a clover plot that I have planted for wildlife makes me a cheat then by all means call the law on me and everyone like me. I guess we're just not worthy to breathe the same air as you Good Ole Boys What a dang joke
You said it we didn't have to. How would it not be easier unless neighbors have an abundance of food on their properties. I think some of it boils down to geographics. Where I live every farm is a food source and unless you scout or have trail cams out It's a crap shoot where they are going. Most generally they are within calling distance though. I like to think thats why they appear and not just because i happen to be sitting where they want to eat,but thats just me and the challenge that gives me gratification.
It's kind of like watching antelope hunting on T.V. with someone sitting right by the only waterhole within a mile or two. Not for me,but evidently it's fun for them. Not judging anyone hunt how you have to hunt.
Quote from: drake799 on March 02, 2020, 11:22:32 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 02, 2020, 07:02:04 AM
Quote from: drake799 on March 01, 2020, 09:12:08 AM
Man there some self righteous people on this forum!!!! I never thought I'd see the day where a planted food plot was baiting but I guess that day has come
Millennial thinking. Food plots are even a new thing and sport hunting should be sporting. No attempts at making things real easy imo. No I don't use tss, no I don't shoot far, no I don't bait, jump shoot rabbits the dogs need to circle em first, , I don't pass shoot ducks, they need to decoy, I won't shoot an upland bird without a point, don't shoot turkeys out of trees, etc etc etc. I'm not judging you either. But don't seem so incredulous some guys think different. Sport hunting should be sporting. New folks don't get it seems
Millennial thinkin.....LOL. I own 60 acres that I hunt a handful of times a year If hunting over a clover plot that I have planted for wildlife makes me a cheat then by all means call the law on me and everyone like me. I guess we're just not worthy to breathe the same air as you Good Ole Boys What a dang joke
No one is hating on you. No one said you don't deserve to breathe. That's ridiculous. Part of your problem is it's only 60 acres. Even if it's perfect it's small and birds aren't going to be there all the time.. Again a patch isn't much different but my point was the feed patch is newer thinking. It has to be as it's a recent phenonenom. Nobody hates you, relax.
We use chicken scratch on our place in texas. I feel you. Everyone around us feeds year round, and if we're not feeding our place is void of turkeys. We don't have a roost on our property so they stay away. When we have feed running we get birds using our property. Never once have I hunted over a feeder for them. But it helps bring birds on the property.
Quote from: Tomfoolery on March 03, 2020, 08:53:17 AM
We use chicken scratch on our place in texas. I feel you. Everyone around us feeds year round, and if we're not feeding our place is void of turkeys. We don't have a roost on our property so they stay away. When we have feed running we get birds using our property. Never once have I hunted over a feeder for them. But it helps bring birds on the property.
Texas is the "poster boy" example of what happens when someone does not feed when everybody around them is. Been there,....seen it!
My buddy's dad "hunted" a place in Texas. They had a chair in back of a lifted truck. Went down the road banging a tub of corn n dishing it out. You could shoot whatever walked out. He never shot n went home
Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
My buddy's dad "hunted" a place in Texas. They had a chair in back of a lifted truck. Went down the road banging a tub of corn n dishing it out. You could shoot whatever walked out. He never shot n went home
Never seen that extreme, but I am not surprised. From what I have seen in TX, most of the landowners have no clue as to what turkey hunters are looking for in a hunt. Most of them don't care a lick about turkeys or know anything about hunting them the way those of us here want to hunt them.
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Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
My buddy's dad "hunted" a place in Texas. They had a chair in back of a lifted truck. Went down the road banging a tub of corn n dishing it out. You could shoot whatever walked out. He never shot n went home
Never seen that extreme, but I am not surprised. From what I have seen in TX, most of the landowners have no clue as to what turkey hunters are looking for in a hunt. Most of them don't care a lick about turkeys or know anything about hunting them the way those of us here want to hunt them.
If you ask me it's not just Texas landowners. The newer generation has much different expectations and allows things watered down quite a bit more than we ever would. It's a shame if you ask me. I mean look even at how this thread started. A bait question. Imagine if it was asked 30 years ago? Today it's accepted more. Still not right n def not sporting imo. Sport hunting should be sporting. Wonder if some know that? Seems it's looked at as work to some . You show up, something has got to happen to prove worth and all attempts are at making things easier.
The how matters.
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To answer the poster's question--- I don't think there is anything that turkeys eat that hogs won't. Someone suggested black sunflower seeds and I think that is just about as good a suggestion on this topic as possible.
But---as it sometimes does--the thread morphed into something else.
I have never baited--too much trouble and its just not in my DNA to hunt that way. However, I can say I have been temped to put out feeders on the land I hunt. I hunt a 300 acre plot of the prettiest turkey woods a man has ever seen. Big hardwoods, rolling terrain, shallow sided clear water creeks. The property to the west is comprised of almost all pines in various stages of growth--from cutover to saw timber--very little hardwoods and lots of briar thickets. But--come opening morning--that is where all the gobbling is coming from. The owners have numerous corn feeders. I have to say, the " If you can't beat em join em" mentality has crept into my psyche, but I'm not there yet. Maybe I'll just hunt close to the line :)
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Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
My buddy's dad "hunted" a place in Texas. They had a chair in back of a lifted truck. Went down the road banging a tub of corn n dishing it out. You could shoot whatever walked out. He never shot n went home
Never seen that extreme, but I am not surprised. From what I have seen in TX, most of the landowners have no clue as to what turkey hunters are looking for in a hunt. Most of them don't care a lick about turkeys or know anything about hunting them the way those of us here want to hunt them.
I hear this often down playing Texas, I have never hunted with outfitters, I have been hunting leases and ranches in Texas for many years I can tell you a spring time Rio grand gobbler. Could care less about corn, o animal stays at a feed station long . Gobblers in west Texas are wary around theses stand sites, you could run and gun to your hearts content. If you hun
Hogs will eat anything and everything...literally nothing you can do but trap everything
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Quote from: GobbleNut on March 03, 2020, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
My buddy's dad "hunted" a place in Texas. They had a chair in back of a lifted truck. Went down the road banging a tub of corn n dishing it out. You could shoot whatever walked out. He never shot n went home
Never seen that extreme, but I am not surprised. From what I have seen in TX, most of the landowners have no clue as to what turkey hunters are looking for in a hunt. Most of them don't care a lick about turkeys or know anything about hunting them the way those of us here want to hunt them.
I hear this often down playing Texas, I have never hunted with outfitters, I have been hunting leases and ranches in Texas for many years I can tell you a spring time Rio grand gobbler. Could care less about corn, o animal stays at a feed station long . Gobblers in west Texas are wary around theses stand sites, you could run and gun to your hearts content. If you hun
You sure you talking about Turkeys? I know people that hunt Texas leases and kill their 4 Texas Gobblers every year with a belly full of corn. I've seen 10 Gobblers at a time under deer feeders cleaning up the corn. Even if the Gobblers didn't want the corn, which I can guarantee they do, the hens will be on the corn the Gobblers want the hens.....real simple. I also know the same people that hunt these corn fed turkeys have all kinds excuses about the how and why. Louisiana "hunters" going to west Texas to kill a corn fed turkey after they give up on the La birds is so common it is a cliche.
Quote from: LaLongbeard on March 03, 2020, 11:22:18 PM
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Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
My buddy's dad "hunted" a place in Texas. They had a chair in back of a lifted truck. Went down the road banging a tub of corn n dishing it out. You could shoot whatever walked out. He never shot n went home
Never seen that extreme, but I am not surprised. From what I have seen in TX, most of the landowners have no clue as to what turkey hunters are looking for in a hunt. Most of them don't care a lick about turkeys or know anything about hunting them the way those of us here want to hunt them.
I hear this often down playing Texas, I have never hunted with outfitters, I have been hunting leases and ranches in Texas for many years I can tell you a spring time Rio grand gobbler. Could care less about corn, o animal stays at a feed station long . Gobblers in west Texas are wary around theses stand sites, you could run and gun to your hearts content. If you hun
You sure you talking about Turkeys? I know people that hunt Texas leases and kill their 4 Texas Gobblers every year with a belly full of corn. I've seen 10 Gobblers at a time under deer feeders cleaning up the corn. Even if the Gobblers didn't want the corn, which I can guarantee they do, the hens will be on the corn the Gobblers want the hens.....real simple. I also know the same people that hunt these corn fed turkeys have all kinds excuses about the how and why. Louisiana "hunters" going to west Texas to kill a corn fed turkey after they give up on the La birds is so common it is a cliche.
I used to feel the same until I went to get a Rio. It is what you make it. Ten gobblers under a feeder sounds like a winter flock. If you have any skills you could call those gobblers away from that feeder. As far as running to Texas for easy turkeys your talking about my buddies, they don't invite me till after they booger e everything. I love hunting public Louisiana longbeards,
First off, my apologies for participating in the derailing of the thread,...but since the train has dun left the tracks...
I have no doubt there are properties in Texas where a guy can go and have a turkey hunt that does not involve turkeys that are conditioned to feeders wherein their daily activities are based around travelling to and from those.
On the other hand, some of my experiences there, and other folks I know, were on properties that, because of the size of the property and the conditions there, you had no realistic choice but to tailor your hunting around those feeders. In fact, I know one friend who was told he HAD to hunt at the feeders because of other hunters on the property (also at feeders).
Personally, I hunted one ranch that I went home empty-handed because I refused to shoot over the feeders. Hard as I tried, I could not get those conditioned turkeys to alter their patterns to come to my calling. (Then again, I am sure I am not as good at this as some of those on here with the big red S on their chest are, (add smiley faces here))
I have also hunted a few properties there where the landowners did not care one whit about the turkeys on the place,...and had no clue as to how to hunt them other than sitting at the feeders or shooting them with a rifle.
I suppose the point is that, if you are planning on hunting in Texas, be sure to "vet" the property you are considering hunting to make sure you are getting what you are expecting. Of course, the same could apply in other parts of the country besides Texas,...it is just that TX is where that practice seems to be more common.
Quote from: LaLongbeard on March 03, 2020, 11:22:18 PM
Quote from: hotspur on March 03, 2020, 08:55:08 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 03, 2020, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
My buddy's dad "hunted" a place in Texas. They had a chair in back of a lifted truck. Went down the road banging a tub of corn n dishing it out. You could shoot whatever walked out. He never shot n went home
Never seen that extreme, but I am not surprised. From what I have seen in TX, most of the landowners have no clue as to what turkey hunters are looking for in a hunt. Most of them don't care a lick about turkeys or know anything about hunting them the way those of us here want to hunt them.
I hear this often down playing Texas, I have never hunted with outfitters, I have been hunting leases and ranches in Texas for many years I can tell you a spring time Rio grand gobbler. Could care less about corn, o animal stays at a feed station long . Gobblers in west Texas are wary around theses stand sites, you could run and gun to your hearts content. If you hun
You sure you talking about Turkeys? I know people that hunt Texas leases and kill their 4 Texas Gobblers every year with a belly full of corn. I've seen 10 Gobblers at a time under deer feeders cleaning up the corn. Even if the Gobblers didn't want the corn, which I can guarantee they do, the hens will be on the corn the Gobblers want the hens.....real simple. I also know the same people that hunt these corn fed turkeys have all kinds excuses about the how and why. Louisiana "hunters" going to west Texas to kill a corn fed turkey after they give up on the La birds is so common it is a cliche.
I usually go to my place in Texas just because I enjoy being out there during the spring. I love chasing them here in LA, but I usually dedicate one weekend to "get away" mostly. Even knowing my chances of killing are better here in LA. It's nice to just go and walk around 1500 acres and not have someone drive up on me, driving roads, and all the other frustrations of public land hunting here in LA. The rios are easier to kill. But seldom are there any to kill. Feed or"bait" whatever people want to call it, is simply used for keeping the birds using the property. Of all the turkeys I've killed there. None have been killed within 800 yrds of a feeder and most killed mid afternoon striking 1 up. It's tough hunting when there aren't any birds lol.
Quote from: hotspur on March 04, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on March 03, 2020, 11:22:18 PM
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Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
I used to feel the same until I went to get a Rio. It is what you make it. Ten gobblers under a feeder sounds like a winter flock. If you have any skills you could call those gobblers away from that feeder. As far as running to Texas for easy turkeys your talking about my buddies, they don't invite me till after they booger e everything. I love hunting public Louisiana longbeards,
What I'm commenting on is you saying a Texas Rio is not interested in corn in the spring? That is ridiculous. I have killed several Texas Rios on what little public land is available in Tx no corn or feeders involved. 10 Gobblers under a feeder in the spring is about normal 40 Gobblers /hens under the same feeder would common in the fall. I don't want or need a skill that includes calling Gobblers from a feeder lol. Like I said multiple excuses
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Quote from: LaLongbeard on March 03, 2020, 11:22:18 PM
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Quote from: GobbleNut on March 03, 2020, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on March 03, 2020, 09:35:05 AM
I used to feel the same until I went to get a Rio. It is what you make it. Ten gobblers under a feeder sounds like a winter flock. If you have any skills you could call those gobblers away from that feeder. As far as running to Texas for easy turkeys your talking about my buddies, they don't invite me till after they booger e everything. I love hunting public Louisiana longbeards,
What I'm commenting on is you saying a Texas Rio is not interested in corn in the spring? That is ridiculous. I have killed several Texas Rios on what little public land is available in Tx no corn or feeders involved. 10 Gobblers under a feeder in the spring is about normal 40 Gobblers /hens under the same feeder would common in the fall. I don't want or need a skill that includes calling Gobblers from a feeder lol. Like I said multiple excuses
Guys I'm sorry but this post about excuses is 100% correct. I know someone is prob butt hurt but this is what many have become. First n foremost good excuse makers for their actions.
When I was a kid there were lots of good deer/turkey spots. Perhaps the small piece we had wasn't one of em. That was kinda too bad, we just needed to find a better place. Didn't really matter who owned it. If it was no good that was the bottom line. Now everyone thinks they're little spot should be all they need all the time. Sorry guys that's not true. Keep sport hunting sporting.