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Title: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: YukonC on January 04, 2020, 09:28:32 PM
My father and law gave me this shotgun a few years ago and I haven't given it any time. It needs some work it has a broken plastic trigger Gaurd but I'm thinking this shotgun could hunt? It can only accept 2 3/4 shells so I'm guessing my range would be real limited.  It has the permanent adjustable choke so no changes can be made there. Going to hit the google machine for a manual on this Mossberg 185kc. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200105/e144dc94b657628c771f7e0c80397fc3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200105/d9d2a90c55c8b565ac90b60f037f9ad8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200105/597ab46f44b71948b428e7416b07fb76.jpg)


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Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: captpete on January 05, 2020, 07:56:27 AM
A friend of mine hunted with one similar to yours about 30 yrs. ago. I watched him kill quite a few ducks with it. He was actually pretty fast at running that bolt action.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: YukonC on January 05, 2020, 09:10:13 AM
Well I was doing my research I could only fiend a few comments on random hunting forums. Most of them said that back in the 60s bolt action shotguns were considered dangerous so they stay away? Something about the boot assembly failing?? From what I have read this shotgun is mid 1960s.


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Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: ol bob on January 05, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
With 2 3/4 tss #9's it will kill any turkey that you should be shooting at.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: YukonC on January 05, 2020, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: ol bob on January 05, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
With 2 3/4 tss #9's it will kill any turkey that you should be shooting at.
Are you talking Apex brand specifically?


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Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: paboxcall on January 05, 2020, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: ol bob on January 05, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
With 2 3/4 tss #9's it will kill any turkey that you should be shooting at.

Exactly. I shoot 2 3/4" loads of TSS #9s out of a 20 gauge. No problem. If you don't handload then Apex loads are a good option as suggested. Will be interesting to see what your poly choke will do at 40 yards.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: YukonC on January 05, 2020, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: paboxcall on January 05, 2020, 09:45:31 AM
Quote from: ol bob on January 05, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
With 2 3/4 tss #9's it will kill any turkey that you should be shooting at.

Exactly. I shoot 2 3/4" loads of TSS #9s out of a 20 gauge. No problem. If you don't handload then Apex loads are a good option as suggested. Will be interesting to see what your poly choke will do at 40 yards.
I might try this out when I go pattern my 835 in the next few weeks. I'll see if any are available on the website.


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Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: davisd9 on January 05, 2020, 10:21:53 AM
Make sure it can handle the pressures. Just because the shell length is right does not mean it was made to handle the pressures of modern shells.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on January 05, 2020, 11:50:47 AM
I think if I had other guns for turkey hunting I'd go the safe route and just shoot plain old lead that you know it was designed for.
40yds and under its been killing them for years..
Imo if I have to shoot them further than that im not a turkey hunter im a turkey sniper.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: YukonC on January 05, 2020, 12:55:21 PM
That seems like sound advice.


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Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: crow on January 06, 2020, 09:04:32 AM
I hunt with a single shot 20 gauge Savage from the 60's, fixed full choke.
Fed factory HVWT and hand loaded 2 3/4" TSS, like ol bob said it will shoot tight turkey patterns far.

I called Federal, their shells (and my reloads) are safe in the 1960's gun.
contact Foxtrot Ammo (custom TSS loads) ask him about your gun with his load pressures.

also if your polychoke is stuck on modified your gun might shoot a tighter center core pattern with TSS #8 shot, tell him that and see what he recommends.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: paboxcall on January 06, 2020, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: crow on January 06, 2020, 09:04:32 AM
I hunt with a single shot 20 gauge Savage from the 60's, fixed full choke.
Fed factory HVWT and hand loaded 2 3/4" TSS, like ol bob said it will shoot tight turkey patterns far.

I called Federal, their shells (and my reloads) are safe in the 1960's gun.
contact Foxtrot Ammo (custom TSS loads) ask him about your gun with his load pressures.

also if your polychoke is stuck on modified your gun might shoot a tighter center core pattern with TSS #8 shot, tell him that and see what he recommends.

Excellent advice, Crow!   :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: mtns2hunt on January 12, 2020, 06:55:10 PM
Quote from: paboxcall on January 06, 2020, 12:52:26 PM
Quote from: crow on January 06, 2020, 09:04:32 AM
I hunt with a single shot 20 gauge Savage from the 60's, fixed full choke.
Fed factory HVWT and hand loaded 2 3/4" TSS, like ol bob said it will shoot tight turkey patterns far.

I called Federal, their shells (and my reloads) are safe in the 1960's gun.
contact Foxtrot Ammo (custom TSS loads) ask him about your gun with his load pressures.

also if your polychoke is stuck on modified your gun might shoot a tighter center core pattern with TSS #8 shot, tell him that and see what he recommends.

Excellent advice, Crow!   :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:

That is good advice. I would also be sure to have it checked out by a competent gun smith. Personally I am not a fan of poly chokes but would consider replacing the poly and having it modified for screw in chokes. Especially if I considered this a project gun.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: trkehunr93 on January 13, 2020, 01:30:38 PM
That guns almost 60 years old, like others have said get it looked at by a trusted gunsmith and even then I would only run field/high brass loads thru it or maybe look into Hevi Shot's classic doubles line of shot if you want a lead free option.  Ammo's come a long ways since the mid-60's and I'm not sure it would be up to TSS.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: ol bob on January 13, 2020, 03:38:58 PM
That bolt action gun is as strong as or stronger than a break down single shot made today, any gun made after 1950 in the USA has  good steel in it.
Title: Re: Old 20g hand me down
Post by: Sir-diealot on January 13, 2020, 04:58:57 PM
My stepfather has been been using a left handed bolt action for deer hunting as long as I have known him and beyond and that was the early to mid 80's and hearing him talk he has had it since his 20's-30's and he has never had a problem with it.