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General Discussion => General Forum => Topic started by: Sir-diealot on October 04, 2019, 10:44:40 AM

Title: Kinda Confused: Shasta County turkey & California Turkey
Post by: Sir-diealot on October 04, 2019, 10:44:40 AM
I was talking with someone over on Facebook and somebody else brought up Shasta County turkey & California Turkey as species of wild turkey. I have never heard of them. Are these a subspecies of one of the normal 6 we would think of? (Eastern, Gould's, Osceola, Rio Grande, Merriam's and Ocellated) or something not recognized as a wild turkey like maybe a hybrid?
Title: Re: Kinda Confused: Shasta County turkey & California Turkey
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on October 04, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
He is referring to long-extinct species of wild turkeys.  Mealagris californica is well established and documented from fossil records. The Shasta County species or subspecies is not.
Title: Re: Kinda Confused: Shasta County turkey & California Turkey
Post by: Sir-diealot on October 04, 2019, 04:24:20 PM
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on October 04, 2019, 03:51:12 PM
He is referring to long-extinct species of wild turkeys.  Mealagris californica is well established and documented from fossil records. The Shasta County species or subspecies is not.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering if it was something like that.
Title: Re: Kinda Confused: Shasta County turkey & California Turkey
Post by: NCL on October 05, 2019, 09:10:59 AM
On a side note to this topic, several years ago I read that there was a moved to eliminate turkeys in California because they were non-native. Due to the fossil remains mentioned in Rapscallion Vermilion response it was established that turkeys were native to California.
Title: Re: Kinda Confused: Shasta County turkey & California Turkey
Post by: Will on October 05, 2019, 01:44:22 PM
Shocker that California would make a move to do something stupid.
Title: Re: Kinda Confused: Shasta County turkey & California Turkey
Post by: NCL on October 07, 2019, 11:01:37 AM
It was actually that Federal Government that wanted them removed from parks.