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Title: 2 more poachers down
Post by: nativeks on April 22, 2019, 09:17:11 AM
Caught 2 guys poaching the double bearded long beard I had been after. Warden confiscated the bird and they both got tickets. Since they confessed the allowed them to keep their guns. Every year since we moved to our property we catch people road hunting and poaching. The wife doesnt even want me to take our son hunting on our own land. Ive got a call into the county commissioner to see what the process is for vacating a large portion of the dead end road that runs along my property.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Ctrize on April 22, 2019, 10:15:07 AM
Good job now get a gobbler.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: LaLongbeard on April 22, 2019, 10:19:40 AM
The Warden should have kept there guns. People that trespass or poach don't think like most normal people. To a normal person getting caught the Gobbler taken ticket and the threat of guns being taken would be more than enough to put an end to the activities. To a poacher they think "we messed up an got caught, but at least we kept our guns, just have to be more careful in the future".
I'd bet if there was anyway to check these two will be caught again with some kind of violation probably been caught before. I've delt with this kind a lot. A lot of them are proud and brag about spotlighting deer or poaching of some kind. It's in there DNA, jail time and taking there guns would be the only way to stop them.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Divenut2 on April 22, 2019, 11:00:58 AM
Poaching is one of those Zero Tolerance things for me. Would be nice if the SOBs that do that stuff got the book thrown at them every time IMO.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: bigbird on April 22, 2019, 11:05:09 AM
my buddy did that in Indiana. Was pretty simple to get done. He has to maintain the road and they allowed him to put a gate across the road
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Old Gobbler on April 22, 2019, 11:12:19 AM
Haven't they heard of "felony tresspassing with a firearm " in your state

In Florida they would have arrested them ,confiscated the guns and whatever vehicle they used in the process of the felony ...truck-boat

At a minimum they should have hunting PRIVILEGES taken away for a specific time frame

You need to show to that court date

Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Marc on April 22, 2019, 11:26:30 AM
I am a member of a duck club, and we have poaching issues as well...

It has been my intention that if we ever caught anyone, that we would civilly sue them.  As members we spend considerable time and money managing habitat (on and off-season).

I would love to try suing any poachers civilly for the money we spend on management costs...  Seems to me, that if just one or two clubs in our area could win such a suit it would greatly decrease poaching.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: zelmo1 on April 22, 2019, 11:30:47 AM
They need to be tougher on them. Glad you caught them
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: nativeks on April 22, 2019, 11:49:46 AM
Heck they are still hunting. Saw them on the way home from church yesterday. Warden just stopped since he saw me mowing. They issued tickets not mandatory appearance citations. He also said they wanted to keep the bird but they were not going to allow that and reward them. He said he followed another truck yesterday he knew was road hunting just to try and dissuade them. This is what happens when there are low numbers of birds everywhere so folks cant leave without killing something.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Delmar ODonnell on April 22, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
Pretty disgraceful that they were not handed down stricter punishments. As someone who loves the outdoors, I loathe poachers. They are the most selfish, immature people I can think of. They take a perfect sport and pervert it to fulfill their own selfish desires. Kill at all costs, even to the detriment of your own character. True hunters have the utmost respect for their like-minded peers and the game they pursue, and good hunters have confidence to hunt within the rules of law, deriving satisfaction from an honorable pursuit regardless if something was killed or not.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Happy on April 22, 2019, 12:57:34 PM
Quote from: Delmar ODonnell on April 22, 2019, 12:27:19 PM
Pretty disgraceful that they were not handed down stricter punishments. As someone who loves the outdoors, I loathe poachers. They are the most selfish, immature people I can think of. They take a perfect sport and pervert it to fulfill their own selfish desires. Kill at all costs, even to the detriment of your own character. True hunters have the utmost respect for their like-minded peers and the game they pursue, and good hunters have confidence to hunt within the rules of law, deriving satisfaction from an honorable pursuit regardless if something was killed or not.
I like that. Well said.

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Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: fallhnt on April 22, 2019, 01:22:50 PM
Good job

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Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Sir-diealot on April 22, 2019, 03:50:25 PM
I agree with everything said here with one POSSIBLE exception and that is the trespassing. The reason I say this is about 4 years ago I was hunting a piece of property that belonged to my landlords kids, the one son just deer hunts and had always had a stand overlooking a field and I had set up a blind for turkey hunting about 5-10 yards from that stand overlooking that field and into the woods. A guy came up about mid morning and yelled "Hello in the blind" I said "Hold on let me clear the chamber and I will be right out." So I get out and start talking to him and it turns out he keeps watch over several of the adjoining properties as well as my landlords kids property. He informs me I am about 20 yards over the line, I explain to him that I thought it was my landlords kids property because of the stand and he is understanding about that. I ask him if I can finish out my hunt and then get my stuff off the property or if he would want me to leave now and he allows me to stay til the hunt is over.

So mistakes do happen but by the way you are describing this is blatant disrespect and they I assume had no permission to hunt any joining property line where such a mistake could have happened then you are right, they should have lost their firearms as well.

Oh I have gone over the bottom half of the property line where I turkey hunt with the landlords kids since then and will go over the top half of the property line with them before deer season. (I do not turkey hunt the top half, as that is where the son that turkey hunts does his hunting)
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: a_jabbo on April 22, 2019, 04:04:37 PM
Glad you were able to catch them and take action.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: tomstopper on April 22, 2019, 04:42:49 PM
Glad they got them. Too bad the penalty isn't stiffer

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Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: NCbowjunkie on April 22, 2019, 05:50:56 PM
2 plus 1 =3
The land that I hunt with my Son in law has lots of turkey. I hadn't got to go yet due to weather and other responsibilities. Last Monday was going to be my first hunt   Clock went off I just turned it off and rolled back over. Maybe the evening hunt. Well my son in law calls about 10 am and says don't go to the farm to hunt. Asked why he told me that the old guy that lives at the end of the road which we always let hunt there had been placing bait and he was hunting that morning and the GW  two trucks came in and found him hunting. Now I'm really mad cause he messed up the the farm that I will not be able to hunt it myself  time for his privileges to end   I did go last Thur to some game land and fished for trout and listed for gobblers   Went 0 for 0 with both fish and turkey
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: turkeyfoot on April 22, 2019, 07:57:54 PM
I just wonder what price of the ticket is he got whether its even enough to make poacher think twice or just few bucks that they chalk up to price of poaching
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: MK M GOBL on April 22, 2019, 09:25:42 PM
My thought is they really need to crack down on this hard, make it so the cost of poaching is enough to prohibit the practice. I know mistakes can happen on some undetermined boundaries and that needs to be handled a bit different but when it's blatant needs to put an end to it.


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Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: High plains drifter on April 22, 2019, 09:51:56 PM
Quote from: Divenut2 on April 22, 2019, 11:00:58 AM
Poaching is one of those Zero Tolerance things for me. Would be nice if the SOBs that do that stuff got the book thrown at them every time IMO.
I agree.In montana, poachers are given a slap on the wrist.They should be jailed, but game wardens give them a break for some reason.I don't know why.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: trkehunr93 on April 23, 2019, 08:06:06 AM
Slap on the wrist in my opinion, they'll keep at it.  If your caught poaching and admit to it great but you lose the weapon you killed the animal with. 


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Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: Spitten and drummen on April 23, 2019, 09:35:59 PM
Cant stand a poacher. Had one that killed 2 birds on 2 different  mornings off my lease. By the time I got to him , he was gone. It was good I did not catch the azzclown.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: steveo on April 24, 2019, 09:51:41 PM
Great work
Glad they were caught, stinks that it was at the cost of a Gobbler.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: limbhanger777 on April 26, 2019, 02:28:34 PM
Good deal, I wish I could catch some of the guys I see trying to jack birds from the road on my property.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: nativeks on April 27, 2019, 04:16:02 PM
I know when this happened previously they used illegal hunt which carries a $600+ fine. Not sure what they wrote them up for as after the confession the game warden said I could go back home.

Turkeys havent returned.
Title: Re: 2 more poachers down
Post by: fallhnt on April 27, 2019, 05:18:59 PM
My definition of poaching is,out of season,out of vehicle, at night,wrong weapon. I think these are serious offenses and should be strictly enforced.

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