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Title: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Prohunter3509 on April 16, 2019, 07:40:59 PM
Has anyone experienced a dud on a federal tss 20 ga.
Look 8 dollars a piece is too high for a dud
It just so happened I was trying another choke
But now I am hesitant about hunting with them.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Greg Massey on April 16, 2019, 07:56:37 PM
I would contact customer service , i'm sure Federal would like to know about the dud .... I'm sure Federal will make it right ....
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: RED NECK on April 16, 2019, 08:04:56 PM
Yes,I got one shell half full,I have purchased 10 boxes of #7 tss in the last few months.I have checked every box before I left store since with no issues.My supplier looked after me.I am not sure what they did after that.For the price of the shells they need to do a better job at quality control in their factory.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Gooserbat on April 16, 2019, 08:05:09 PM
It can happen with any brand, however I've seen more did federal shot shells than any other.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: spaightlabs on April 16, 2019, 08:24:54 PM
What kind of gun were you trying to shoot it out of?

Got a pic of the primer strike you can post?
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Prohunter3509 on April 16, 2019, 08:34:23 PM
It blowed the wadding out just enough for that
Heavy powder residue in barrel that didn't ignite
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: spaightlabs on April 16, 2019, 08:39:28 PM
Squib load.

Any chance it got wet somewhere along the line?

If you know what box it came out of I'd let Federal know about it and send a pic of the barcode.  Could be a powder charge problem or a primer problem (sounds like primer) and they ought to thank you for letting them know and send ya a new box for your trouble.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: crenshawco on April 16, 2019, 08:45:37 PM
Probably powder migration if I had to guess. Powder migrates out of the powder cup below the wad up along the wad petals and the hull. Shine a light into the hull and I bet you'll see powder
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Prohunter3509 on April 16, 2019, 08:51:07 PM
I sent federal lott # on box
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: spaightlabs on April 16, 2019, 09:07:56 PM
Good deal - hope they make it right.

My hunting partner had a Federal Black Cloud squib load last season he didn't hear it, but I did and as he was swinging on the bird that was still flying I yelled STOP and fortunately he did.  Wad made it about 18 inches down the barrel...
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: joey46 on April 16, 2019, 09:35:25 PM
Good to know.  I bought one box of five Federal TSS 12ga #7s.  Two test shots.  Then two gobblers.  One left for next season.  It seems ok.  I won't hunt with any shell that rattles when shaken.  It's tight.  Years ago I shot a lot of skeet.  Used mostly WW AA factory.  Don't remember ever having a problem or witnessing a problem with anyone's factory load.  Reloads a different matter.  Maybe Federal rushed these TSS to market so as not to miss the TSS craze.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Boykin Hollow on April 17, 2019, 05:17:59 AM
Just another reason to roll your own !!!
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: GobbleNut on April 17, 2019, 04:26:30 PM
I bought some of the federal TSS loads to try this spring,...shot a gobbler with one of them this last Monday.  Looking at the hull after the shot, I noticed that the top/crimp did not open up fully but was rolled in toward the center of the shell a bit.  I have never seen that before with a shot shell and am wondering if I should be concerned about it or if that is just the way it is supposed to open up.  Otherwise, the load seemed to perform okay, but it has me wondering...   Any thoughts?...
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on April 17, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on April 17, 2019, 04:26:30 PM
I bought some of the federal TSS loads to try this spring,...shot a gobbler with one of them this last Monday.  Looking at the hull after the shot, I noticed that the top/crimp did not open up fully but was rolled in toward the center of the shell a bit.  I have never seen that before with a shot shell and am wondering if I should be concerned about it or if that is just the way it is supposed to open up.  Otherwise, the load seemed to perform okay, but it has me wondering...   Any thoughts?...
That's typical of roll crimps to relax inward after being fired.  All my TSS handloads do that.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Big Jeremy on April 17, 2019, 06:03:27 PM
Quote from: Rapscallion Vermilion on April 17, 2019, 05:01:09 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on April 17, 2019, 04:26:30 PM
I bought some of the federal TSS loads to try this spring,...shot a gobbler with one of them this last Monday.  Looking at the hull after the shot, I noticed that the top/crimp did not open up fully but was rolled in toward the center of the shell a bit.  I have never seen that before with a shot shell and am wondering if I should be concerned about it or if that is just the way it is supposed to open up.  Otherwise, the load seemed to perform okay, but it has me wondering...   Any thoughts?...
That's typical of roll crimps to relax inward after being fired.  All my TSS handloads do that.

What he said...that's what it is supposed to look like.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: joey46 on April 18, 2019, 05:02:43 AM
I have both Federal TSS 12ga hulls that I used to take birds this season.  Nothing about the expended crimp seems noteworthy.  The first roll crimp I remember using was the original old white Hevi 13.  It performed flawlessly for me.  Had great patterns with noticeably less recoil.  Sorry it is long out of production.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: GobbleNut on April 18, 2019, 08:13:55 AM
Good to hear that the hull roll-in after being shot is normal.  At $7 bucks a pop, I was a bit concerned!   ;D :toothy12:
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: Delmar ODonnell on April 18, 2019, 03:51:15 PM
I've shot two birds with them this year with good results. (Granted I don't know if they are any more dead than if I would have shot them with lead.) I bought 2 boxes of 5, and out of the ten shells, one of them was not sealed properly and the packing material kept falling out, and it wouldn't cycle in my gun properly. It's not the end of the world but at $8 a shell it would be nice to not have to scrap one.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: joey46 on April 18, 2019, 11:21:01 PM
BTW - I also have a box of Browning 7/9 TSS.  Loaned one to a buddy.  He took a gobbler with it.  These loads look identical to WW loads.  Black with a star crimp.  May have heard Winchester makes them for Browning.  A good alternative.  Came with a Thermocell as a rebate which made them cheap also.
Title: Re: Federal tss. Dud
Post by: RED NECK on April 19, 2019, 06:36:11 AM
Quote from: joey46 on April 18, 2019, 11:21:01 PM
BTW - I also have a box of Browning 7/9 TSS.  Loaned one to a buddy.  He took a gobbler with it.  These loads look identical to WW loads.  Black with a star crimp.  May have heard Winchester makes them for Browning.  A good alternative.  Came with a Thermocell as a rebate which made them cheap also.
Winchester makes browning shells.I used to get blocks of their .22 ammo in at work and you could plainly see Win on the top of casings.