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Title: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 08, 2019, 03:04:16 PM
We're a week out, gentleman.  I won't be hunting until after Easter.  For those of y'all able to scout early, what are y'all seeing? 
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: GobbleNut on April 08, 2019, 09:28:45 PM
I've only been out once,...last Wednesday.  It was a bit windy at first light and not much gobbling going on.  Drove probably fifty miles and only saw one group of birds, which really surprised me,...usually see a lot of birds along the roads this time of year.  Ryan seems to think the numbers are down a bit this year, but says there are still plenty of gobblers.  I expect we will be just fine....  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Dtrkyman on April 09, 2019, 06:54:15 PM
I saw quite a few back in late Feb. early march while Javelina hunting, too bad I wont make it out there to hunt.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: turkeykiller41 on April 10, 2019, 10:13:31 PM
What area  are you hunting I got some buddies out there hunting also.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 15, 2019, 07:34:23 AM
Good luck to everyone hunting the opener.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Gooserbat on April 15, 2019, 09:50:36 AM
I'm heading back to NM in early May
 
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 24, 2019, 12:11:30 PM
Heading out this afternoon.  Should be there in time to do some armed scouting this evening for a couple of hours before the sun sets.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 24, 2019, 09:03:15 PM
Two distant gobbles so far.  Attempted to close the distance and never heard him again.  Got a feeling it isn't going to be easy.  Hopefully I can roost a couple this evening.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 25, 2019, 12:03:06 AM
Got one roosted that I'm not sure I even want to go after.  It would involve dropping down into the second canyon from where I'm able to access by vehicle.  So if I did kill him, I'd have to hike out with him up two different ridges before getting back to my pickup.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 25, 2019, 10:38:52 AM
Several birds in the area, so I'm going to continue to hunt this area.  Been quiet the last hour or so.  Good ground gobbling first hour of light, better even than roost gobbling.  Going to stay on this ridge top the remainder of the day.  Packed water and snacks and just need one to get fired up.  I'm hopeful in the next hour or two, one will get lonely and start gobbling again.  Wasn't ever really in the game this morning up to this point.  Couple birds hit the call, but none consistently and never was in one's bubble.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Vaturkeyhntr on April 25, 2019, 10:57:20 AM
Flying out Sunday morning to hunt New Mexico for the first time.  Looking forward to chasing some of these mountain birds
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 25, 2019, 01:19:16 PM
Got within 150 yards of a bird that was gobbling good on his own.  The second I set up and called to him, he went quiet.  Makes me think he has been hunted before.  Stayed with him for an hour or so and while he didn't go far, he only gobbled a couple more times.  Wondering if I should leave the birds in this area to go find others.  I know where more are, but I'm not sure they'll be any more cooperative.  They weren't the last three years...
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: GobbleNut on April 25, 2019, 02:43:20 PM
Good to hear your reports, JM.  Keep after them,...you'll find a cooperative gobbler or two.  Birds have been on fire since the start of the season.  It's just a matter of time for you.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 26, 2019, 12:16:34 AM
Logged 12 miles today.  Back at it in the morning.  Much more sign where I'll be hunting tomorrow and have one roosted.  It's gunna be a bit of a hike to get to him.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: GobbleNut on April 26, 2019, 09:31:03 AM
Woah! It's after midnight and you are posting about your hunt?  Man, are you getting any sleep?   :o ;D
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 26, 2019, 11:16:25 AM
Just missed a bird.  Gobbling his tail off, but not coming to me, so I tried to slip in on him.  Made for a free handed shot at a turkey slowly walking off to the right in some brush.  I'm in a great spot though.  Will let things calm down for a bit and then will try to find another gobbling bird.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: HookedonHooks on April 26, 2019, 11:28:38 AM
If it didn't spook him to bad, I'm sure he'll still be killable within the day.

Hang with them and keep after them. Good luck!
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 26, 2019, 11:43:20 AM
On a side note, there must have been a hell of a wind storm that came through recently.  I've seen several ponderosa pines uprooted with green pine needles still on them.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 26, 2019, 08:32:07 PM
Wind was up all afternoon and then a shower passed through.  Hoping it lays down as I make my way out.  Had a bird come inside of 100, likely on his way from a long ways off.  Just as I got setup, a strong gust of wind came along with sprinkles.  Haven't heard him since.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 27, 2019, 09:14:06 AM
Henned up early and not a lot of roost gobbling.  Had one bird following a hen gobble super close and him and the hen ended up walking by me at 70 yards in open woods before I could even setup. 
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 27, 2019, 10:21:00 PM
Turkeys 3, hunter 0.  Went down to call to a bird somewhere down in the canyon.  Realized he wasn't coming up.  Get back to the top, hit the call, and a bird hammers inside of 100.  Butt pucker.  Sit immediately.  So surprised that I didn't even pinpoint the direction.  Turns out, he was to my back.  Gobbled one more time even closer then nothing.  Then the bird in a canyon hammers and I'm actually setup pretty good.  Just as I see his head, he disappears.  I'm thinking he wanted nothing to do with the Dakota jake decoy.  Kills me.  No more decoys, hen or jake.  I would have killed that bird otherwise.  Frustrating.  I stayed up pretty much all day.  Started my way back down towards the truck around 5:30.  Didn't hear a gobble from noon until 6:30 or so.  The plan for tomorrow is to stay down at the bottom of the canyon to hunt a bird that has gobbled his tail off in the same spot the last two mornings.  I think the birds up high are tired of hearing my box call as I desperately tried to strike a bird this afternoon.  Honestly, I should probably hunt tomorrow morning with just my diaphragm and pot.  I'm exhausted.  Didn't pack enough food for the hunt today and I bet I'm down 3-4 pounds since I got up here.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: GobbleNut on April 27, 2019, 10:58:29 PM
Keep after 'em,...just a matter of time until it comes together.  ...Enjoying the play by play...   :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 28, 2019, 12:57:54 PM
Wasn't even in the game this morning.  Was never in tight on a roosted turkey the entire trip.  Probably why I'm going home without a bird.  Also inconsistent roost gobbling.  Birds that gobbled in the evening didn't necessarily gobble in the morning and vice versa.  Guess I need to find some new country.  Debating how much of a glutton I am for punishment coming back next weekend.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Rapscallion Vermilion on April 28, 2019, 01:54:53 PM
Just got back from the Gila and they only gobbled on the roost one morning.  Other mornings were completely quiet until sometime after 7 AM and then it seemed like a bird here or there was finally getting interested in gobbling.  Evenings were dead quiet.  Couldn't get a shock gobble out of birds we knew were there.  But once they got going they were hot.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 28, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
Hunted some pretty country anyway...

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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Panhandle_strutter on April 29, 2019, 02:26:44 PM
We are here in NM this entire week. Yesterday was our first day with some decent action the first couple of hours then it was dead the rest of the day. This morning had a few gobbles on the roost and a handful of times on the ground and it is quiet. Still trying to put the pieces together on where they want to be during the day

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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on April 29, 2019, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: Panhandle_strutter on April 29, 2019, 02:26:44 PM
We are here in NM this entire week. Yesterday was our first day with some decent action the first couple of hours then it was dead the rest of the day. This morning had a few gobbles on the roost and a handful of times on the ground and it is quiet. Still trying to put the pieces together on where they want to be during the day

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On the side of a steep mountain where you don't want to hunt him lol
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: NCL on May 01, 2019, 04:08:33 PM
Very nice scenery photos
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 02, 2019, 12:17:49 PM
So happy to have bagged a bird the first morning of the return trip.  Struck him on a forest service road.  Set up twice and as I closed the distance, he came strutting and gobbling right up the road to the barrel of my Mossberg 20 gauge.  15 yard shot maybe


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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 02, 2019, 12:19:05 PM
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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: HookedonHooks on May 02, 2019, 12:20:13 PM
Congrats!!! Them birds are so crazy pretty with the deep black feathers.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 02, 2019, 01:59:42 PM
Thank you.  Can't recall being any happier with a particular bird.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Panhandle_strutter on May 02, 2019, 02:54:31 PM
Congrats man! We called one in right off the roost this morning and my bro in law missed him. We have finally figured some things out, one more day to get it done for us!

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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 02, 2019, 03:11:40 PM
Quote from: Panhandle_strutter on May 02, 2019, 02:54:31 PM
Congrats man! We called one in right off the roost this morning and my bro in law missed him. We have finally figured some things out, one more day to get it done for us!

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Day isn't over yet.  I have every intention of getting back out there after an hour or so nap.  Gotta take advantage of the relatively calm day. 
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: GobbleNut on May 02, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
 :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:  Congrats, JM.  ...knew it would come together at some point for you...
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 03, 2019, 09:11:02 AM
Tagged out!  Story later.  Half mile walk back down the mountain

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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Panhandle_strutter on May 03, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
We got one this morning! Gonna post the story and pics later

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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 03, 2019, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: Panhandle_strutter on May 03, 2019, 01:14:33 PM
We got one this morning! Gonna post the story and pics later

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Congrats.  I hunted for four days on two separate occasions my first year hunting NM and went home birdless.  Glad it finally came together.  It was a great morning to be out there.
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: Fdept56 on May 03, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
Congrats guys! I'm headed that way next Monday to hunt until the end. Any pointers?
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 03, 2019, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Fdept56 on May 03, 2019, 04:45:50 PM
Congrats guys! I'm headed that way next Monday to hunt until the end. Any pointers?

Find several different areas with birds to hunt.  Find birds to hunt by finding water.  Last hour in the evening is better spent locating birds unless you have a roost pinpointed and want to wait out a bird returning to roost.  They wont gobble much at all that last hour until they fly up from my experience, so you may as well call softly, or not call at all (not a fun way to hunt).  They are typically pretty quiet from my experience right after fly down in the morning, but they'll usually start up again after 30 mins to an hour on the ground.  They are pretty lonely at this point in the season, so you shouldn't have many henned up birds to deal with.  They are finicky though.  Birds that have been hunted hard will clam up or gobble very little when you call to them.  Hunt aggressively.  Try to get within 150 yards before setting up and set up in the direction they are traveling.  They won't go out of their way to investigate your calling in my experience.  Hunt uphill from where ever you're parked.  Don't go up and down mountains chasing them, you'll only wear yourself out and will likely have nothing to show for it.  Cover lots of ground probing with the loudest box call you have.  Wind is your enemy.  They will drop off the ridge tops/mesas and into the canyons and its hard to kill them in the canyons.  Steep faces with lots of brush and deadfall to navigate through. 

If you feel as though your morning spot is played out, go to other areas you've found birds from previous evening's roosting/scouting expedition.  If it's cool, birds are apt to gobble all day.  If its up into the mid 70's, you're better off resting up from 12:00-2:00 PM.  Birds usually turn back on around 4:00 PM.  It doesn't have to look like stereotypical pine covered mountains to hold birds.  As long as there are a just a few ponderosa's around for them to roost in, an area that consists largely of cedar and pinion pine will hold birds if there is water around.  Apparently unit 34 more consistent populations of birds, but I haven't had any trouble locating birds in unit 36. 

My post is geared to hunting Lincoln National Forest, but I'm sure it applies to Merriam hunting all over New Mexico. 
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 03, 2019, 06:39:28 PM
Time to recap my 2nd trip.  Got in late Wednesday evening.  Got to a spot I wanted to put ears on a new to me spot just before dark and heard a couple of faint gobbles down in the canyon, which was enough for me to come back the next morning before daylight and try to get setup.  Thursday morning, I return to the spot and hear the same two birds along with a closer bird.  I set up within 80 yards of the roosted bird as he gobbles his brain out on the limb.  I give hims some clucks and a few soft tree yelps.  Hammers to them and continues to hammer on his own, then flies down to the opposite side of the canyon, away from me.  Lots of ATV tire tracks down in the bottom, so I'm sure he's been hunted before.  He drops down to the bottom, gives me a couple more gobbles (I'm thinking he thought I was a real hen, not just someone trying to kill him lol) and then goes quiet.  The other two birds I had heard the previous evening were gobbling good, but as they got closer, they shut down.  I work the area for a couple of hours listening and occasionally calling, but not much activity, so I decide to take the forest service road deeper in.  I pull over every half mile or so and at the second spot, I hear two birds down in the canyon (way too steep to drop down into, so they are a lost cause), and one faint gobble that sounded like it was out in front of me a half mile away.  I continue down the road, stop again, hit the box call, and after a couple of seconds, a gobbler responds within 200 yards.  I scramble for my gun and vest, move off the road into the brush, move towards the direction of the gobble, and setup.  Call, bird hammers again.  Wait a couple of minutes, call again, bird hammers again, but hasn't closed the distance.  I venture back to the road, move up another 150 yards, cross a cattle guard, get back into the brush just off the road, setup again, and call.  He hammers and is within 80.  I shut up at this point.  He gobbles again and again, and I give him a couple reassuring clucks.  That's all he needed.  I see his huge white tipped tail fan coming my way.  I cluck at him to stop him where I want him, he stops and gobbles, and likely caught my pattern before he had even finished his last gobble. 

Took a nap, and went to another new to me area.  It didn't look promising.  The "creek" wasn't flowing.  The access road into it was extremely rough.  I made it about a mile and a half in before turning back around.  Just as I'm about to hit the cattle guard on the way out, I see a tom and hen sneak off into the brush.  I give half hearted pursuit knowing that he's likely going to be a tough customer in that he's seen my truck and he has a hen.  I attempt to circle around and call a few times, but no response except for a bird high up on the ridge to the south.  I didn't feel like hiking up to that bird, so I drove off and went back to the canyon where I had hunted that morning.  Drive up the forest service road past where I had parked and found presumably the same two birds I had heard earlier, gobbling their heads off down in the bottom.  I decided I'll go back the way I came, bail out of the truck and drop down into the bottom.  Appparently I got too far ahead of them and didn't hear them again until they flew up for the evening.  They were still several hundred yards away and further east than where they had roosted the previous evening.  The single tom I set up on also returned to roost gliding down into a tall ponderosa from fairly high up the opposite ridge.  I thought it was a hawk or something they way it seemed to have swooped down.  The single bird never gobbled once.  I decided I'd try another spot the next morning where I had missed a bird the previous week.

Got up onto a mesa this morning after a pretty steep hike up an old logging road closed to ATV traffic.  With last week's knowledge, I knew it was a good place to be and that it likely didn't receive a lot of pressure because it's a pretty tough hike and there are easier birds to get at for guys with ATV's.  Anywho, there are 2-3 birds roosted down in the canyon below and I know they tend to work their way up, especially on calm days like the one we had this morning.  I hear a faint gobble that sounds like its on my level, and easily a quarter mile or more away, so I don't pay it much mind with the morning just getting going.  It stays pretty quiet after fly down.  I set up at the edge of the mesa calling to the birds down at the bottom when I hear a gobble on my level back behind me.  I call again to confirm his distance and direction and then scramble to try to get to the direction I think he's heading.  I make it, get setup, call, and he gobbles within 100 yards.  After a ten minute chess match, he gobbles again, further to the left of where I anticipated he would appear.  I call to him and I can hear him drum.  Then he starts the nervous, "where are you, hen" clucking.  He appears at around 40 and I take a shot.  He staggers off slowly.  I pump another round in, move in on him, and put him down for good with the second shot. 

First bird weighed in at 20.3 pounds.  Solid 9ish beard and 5/8 spurs.  Beautiful white tips.

Second bird weighed in at 18.1 pounds.  Dinky little 7.5-8 inch beard at maybe 1/2 inch spurs.  More buff colored tail feathers, which seems to be more typical of the Lincoln birds I've killed. 
Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: JMalin on May 03, 2019, 06:41:04 PM

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Title: Re: New Mexico 2019
Post by: tomstopper on May 04, 2019, 07:17:03 AM
Congrats

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