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Title: Tj Johnson call
Post by: fordhunt on January 31, 2019, 10:57:32 PM
I'd love to see more pictures of tj Johnson calls and some sound files .
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Spring Creek Calls on February 01, 2019, 08:49:34 AM
Here's a couple, bloodwood over mineral poplar and bloodwood over cherry. You can forget the sound file until it warms up.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190201/7df2233fafb52685978a2eefa89ddb62.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190201/5b2f2c4e0181fa23e4a974c066323245.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 01, 2019, 10:47:08 AM
Call me crazy but I think TJ is already making the third best shortbox out there, only behind Dawkins and Marlin. 
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: MDTOM84 on February 01, 2019, 10:49:59 AM
Purpleheart over cedar #3(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190201/b4fae4ff51eacd00adfa7bdaf30f2931.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190201/31d5a53130af613cd3c365b1b7211e00.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 01, 2019, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: NeverRoosting on February 01, 2019, 10:47:08 AM
Call me crazy but I think TJ is already making the third best shortbox out there, only behind Dawkins and Marlin.
I agree i would put TJ within the top 3 ... i would also add Jeff Mckamey in that group of top 4 ...
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: fordhunt on February 01, 2019, 04:10:30 PM
Good looking call's .had some videos sent to me man they do sound good .
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: hunter22 on February 01, 2019, 06:59:49 PM
TJ makes one of the best and was taught well. He is also one of the finest young men you will meet.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Gog1015 on February 01, 2019, 07:12:06 PM
I can't wait to get my next couple of calls from him, should be in the next 2 weeks.

Great guy and fast to respond!
Title: Tj Johnson call
Post by: MS Boy on February 02, 2019, 08:03:37 PM
Quote from: NeverRoosting on February 01, 2019, 10:47:08 AM
Call me crazy but I think TJ is already making the third best shortbox out there, only behind Dawkins and Marlin.

Better than Lapp and Lamar Hmmm not so sure about that one


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Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: MDTOM84 on February 02, 2019, 08:08:22 PM
At Unicoi I took a bloodwood/butternut from Marlin and one from TJ, I didn't look at who made which one and ran both. I could not tell who's box was who's. Both played super easy and sounded great. My opinion, TJ's are just as good as Marlin's.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: chufagold on February 03, 2019, 10:21:00 AM
them things look good!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: fordhunt on February 05, 2019, 04:13:50 PM
I'm waiting on a black limba and yellow heart ..
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: trb136 on February 05, 2019, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: NeverRoosting on February 01, 2019, 10:47:08 AM
Call me crazy but I think TJ is already making the third best shortbox out there, only behind Dawkins and Marlin.
How long has he been building calls?
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 05, 2019, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: MS Boy on February 02, 2019, 08:03:37 PM
Quote from: NeverRoosting on February 01, 2019, 10:47:08 AM
Call me crazy but I think TJ is already making the third best shortbox out there, only behind Dawkins and Marlin.

Better than Lapp and Lamar Hmmm not so sure about that one


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Lamar for sure and that's not close.  I would also say yes on lapp.  I have quite a few from both Lamar and Lapp and I would stand by that statement every day.  I'm not saying Lamar or Lapp make a bad box, I really like both of them...what I'm saying is TJ's are already great, but it also makes sense, he has one of the two best teachers (Dawkins and Marlin are the best in my opinion) and using Marlin's design.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: PSEoutlaw07 on February 05, 2019, 05:51:35 PM
Looks great
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: SJ Strutter on February 05, 2019, 06:07:12 PM
I'll give TJ his due he's making nice looking Marlin calls, but I'd pumped the brakes with this legendary status for a minute. More important I take exception with the disrespect of two true legends that was named Lapp and Lamar!!  Just shaking my head!! That's really weak to put peoples names down to pump up another!! Just my 2 cents!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: MDTOM84 on February 05, 2019, 06:09:37 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 05, 2019, 06:25:41 PM
Quote from: SJ Strutter on February 05, 2019, 06:07:12 PM
I'll give TJ his due he's making nice looking Marlin calls, but I'd pumped the brakes with this legendary status for a minute. More important I take exception with the disrespect of two true legends that was named Lapp and Lamar!!  Just shaking my head!! That's really weak to put peoples names down to pump up another!! Just my 2 cents!

If you are referring to my comment I think you took it wrong.  I do think TJ is making a better box, I specifically said that the other two don't make bad boxes, and I also specifically said I really like their boxes and own quite a few of both...so how am I bad mouthing them there...what that means/or what I meant by it is TJ's are that good.  Pretty sure I wouldn't own several from both Lamar and Lapp if I didn't like them.  Someone specifically asked/commented about Lamar and Mike so that's how their name came into it for comparison.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: longbeard56 on February 05, 2019, 06:26:02 PM
Sooo many folks building great calls. The best part about this for me is it keeps the great folk history of call making alive. I gotta say to skinny this down to a chosen few seems a bit interesting to me.

I bet I could name at least 25-50 Callmaker's names that would get a Gobbler on my Lapp. ( Including Lapp)

Sometimes I think the worst judge of a good call are us. Id always opt for the best critic on the planet. Mr. Tom

Is there really a shortlist right now. If there is id like to add a few that on any given day can turn a head Whitt, Bullock, Harrison, Hudson, Lacey, McKamey, Bashore, Kruer, Lancaster, Smith, Terefencko, Brown, Fulcher, Hudson, Rice, Impson, Lea, Witter and others cause I know I'm missing a few.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: sixbird on February 05, 2019, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: SJ Strutter on February 05, 2019, 06:07:12 PM
I'll give TJ his due he's making nice looking Marlin calls, but I'd pumped the brakes with this legendary status for a minute. More important I take exception with the disrespect of two true legends that was named Lapp and Lamar!!  Just shaking my head!! That's really weak to put peoples names down to pump up another!! Just my 2 cents!

Agreed...Johnson may be making a great call but he hasn't put in his dues like Mike Lapp and Lamar Williams and he didn't develop his own style and his own sound like Mike and Lamar did.
More power to him but to start calling legend status is a little, well, "premature..."
Title: Tj Johnson call
Post by: MS Boy on February 05, 2019, 09:41:31 PM
It's all good on my end NeverRoosting.


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Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 06, 2019, 10:00:20 AM
Quote from: sixbird on February 05, 2019, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: SJ Strutter on February 05, 2019, 06:07:12 PM
I'll give TJ his due he's making nice looking Marlin calls, but I'd pumped the brakes with this legendary status for a minute. More important I take exception with the disrespect of two true legends that was named Lapp and Lamar!!  Just shaking my head!! That's really weak to put peoples names down to pump up another!! Just my 2 cents!

Agreed...Johnson may be making a great call but he hasn't put in his dues like Mike Lapp and Lamar Williams and he didn't develop his own style and his own sound like Mike and Lamar did.
More power to him but to start calling legend status is a little, well, "premature..."

Glenn and Jay, I never used the words legendary...I stated he's making the third best box call right now.  Yes he makes a "Marlin" call but the guy is also learning and figuring stuff out on his own in addition to Marlin mentoring him.  Wouldn't you say Lamar and Mike are making a "cost" style call...I would think they also had mentors along the way to help with their learning curves.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Pooh4459 on February 06, 2019, 11:25:37 AM
That's what I keep hearing that makes no sense to me. People saying " well what's up with him making an exact copy of a fiddlebox?" Well what's the difference between that and people making a cost style box? It's a design Marlin created just like neil cost's design and originally he asked Lamar and Mann to continue making. There is no Difference.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: sixbird on February 06, 2019, 11:57:48 AM
Difference is dues...T.J. may be making a great call, but he hasn't payed his dues. Mike and Lamar spent years developing what they learned from Neil. They won awards and, in Mike's case in particular, developed a tongue call, a push pin, scratchers, long and short boxes...There's a list. Mike didn't just copy a design and that was that.
Now maybe T.J. will go on to do great things in the turkey call world. I hope he does. If he does, I'll be singing his praises.
I think Jay's and my point was he hasn't earned it...Yet...
So, before this gets out of hand, I'll say that T.J. does make a nice call. Maybe even an exceptional call. I don't, so my opinion is just like anybody else's if I tried to buy something with it...Worthless...
Let's talk about turkeys!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 06, 2019, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: sixbird on February 06, 2019, 11:57:48 AM
Difference is dues...T.J. may be making a great call, but he hasn't payed his dues. Mike and Lamar spent years developing what they learned from Neil. They won awards and, in Mike's case in particular, developed a tongue call, a push pin, scratchers, long and short boxes...There's a list. Mike didn't just copy a design and that was that.
Now maybe T.J. will go on to do great things in the turkey call world. I hope he does. If he does, I'll be singing his praises.
I think Jay's and my point was he hasn't earned it...Yet...
So, before this gets out of hand, I'll say that T.J. does make a nice call. Maybe even an exceptional call. I don't, so my opinion is just like anybody else's if I tried to buy something with it...Worthless...
Let's talk about turkeys!

So basically all of your points have nothing to do or very little to do with my comments and it has nothing to do with the finished product bc the guy hasn't been in it long enough to have paid his dues...also listing all of the different calls Mike makes is great but is way off topic here...I actually think Mike makes the best longboxes out there and have told the Mike himself that I feel that way on more than one occation, but that's not what the discussion is about here, I was talking shortboxes.  If I'm putting out a top ranking list for short boxes right now it would be dawkins and marlin tied at #1, then TJ at #3, Lapp would probably land #4 for me and Lamar would be #6...I'd say there's no disrespect there with that list.  So just like in my original post, I was responding to a guy that mentioned Lapp and Lamar and I think for all of the calls I've ran at call shows between those guys and personally own, that TJ is making a better shortbox right now, and I made sure to say that I like and own the other two in my original post.  I don't even own a call from TJ and not on his list (so this isn't me trying to hype up what I own, again I own several lamar and lapps so it's quite the opposite), but I've ran around 25 of the first 50 calls TJ has made and consistency is already through the roof so I feel like the young man deserves credit for his hard work regardless of how long he's been making calls as I based it off of finished product.  I do like how you said "maybe even an exceptional call"...keep running them and I guarantee you that "maybe" will be dropped from your sentence.  Pretty sure Albert Paul is the one that mentored Mike when he seeked it and Lamar never entered contest.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: SJ Strutter on February 06, 2019, 03:47:27 PM
Quote from: NeverRoosting on February 06, 2019, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: sixbird on February 06, 2019, 11:57:48 AM
Difference is dues...T.J. may be making a great call, but he hasn't payed his dues. Mike and Lamar spent years developing what they learned from Neil. They won awards and, in Mike's case in particular, developed a tongue call, a push pin, scratchers, long and short boxes...There's a list. Mike didn't just copy a design and that was that.
Now maybe T.J. will go on to do great things in the turkey call world. I hope he does. If he does, I'll be singing his praises.
I think Jay's and my point was he hasn't earned it...Yet...
So, before this gets out of hand, I'll say that T.J. does make a nice call. Maybe even an exceptional call. I don't, so my opinion is just like anybody else's if I tried to buy something with it...Worthless...
Let's talk about turkeys!

So basically all of your points have nothing to do or very little to do with my comments and it has nothing to do with the finished product bc the guy hasn't been in it long enough to have paid his dues...also listing all of the different calls Mike makes is great but is way off topic here...I actually think Mike makes the best longboxes out there and have told the Mike himself that I feel that way on more than one occation, but that's not what the discussion is about here, I was talking shortboxes.  If I'm putting out a top ranking list for short boxes right now it would be dawkins and marlin tied at #1, then TJ at #3, Lapp would probably land #4 for me and Lamar would be #6...I'd say there's no disrespect there with that list.  So just like in my original post, I was responding to a guy that mentioned Lapp and Lamar and I think for all of the calls I've ran at call shows between those guys and personally own, that TJ is making a better shortbox right now, and I made sure to say that I like and own the other two in my original post.  I don't even own a call from TJ and not on his list (so this isn't me trying to hype up what I own, again I own several lamar and lapps so it's quite the opposite), but I've ran around 25 of the first 50 calls TJ has made and consistency is already through the roof so I feel like the young man deserves credit for his hard work regardless of how long he's been making calls as I based it off of finished product.  I do like how you said "maybe even an exceptional call"...keep running them and I guarantee you that "maybe" will be dropped from your sentence.  Pretty sure Albert Paul is the one that mentored Mike when he seeked it and Lamar never entered contest.

Never Roosting listen I gave TJ his due. When I said legendary I basically disagreed with your statement with being the 3rd best short box out there! (My Opinion) Everybody's ears are different and everyone likes are different. Lastly I DID NOT like the comment about Lapp and Lamar. I hope this clears up my response. (Again my opinion)  Here's my cell if you want to discuss any further 609-352-6957 Anytime
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 06, 2019, 04:44:50 PM
Quote from: SJ Strutter on February 06, 2019, 03:47:27 PM
Quote from: NeverRoosting on February 06, 2019, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: sixbird on February 06, 2019, 11:57:48 AM
Difference is dues...T.J. may be making a great call, but he hasn't payed his dues. Mike and Lamar spent years developing what they learned from Neil. They won awards and, in Mike's case in particular, developed a tongue call, a push pin, scratchers, long and short boxes...There's a list. Mike didn't just copy a design and that was that.
Now maybe T.J. will go on to do great things in the turkey call world. I hope he does. If he does, I'll be singing his praises.
I think Jay's and my point was he hasn't earned it...Yet...
So, before this gets out of hand, I'll say that T.J. does make a nice call. Maybe even an exceptional call. I don't, so my opinion is just like anybody else's if I tried to buy something with it...Worthless...
Let's talk about turkeys!

So basically all of your points have nothing to do or very little to do with my comments and it has nothing to do with the finished product bc the guy hasn't been in it long enough to have paid his dues...also listing all of the different calls Mike makes is great but is way off topic here...I actually think Mike makes the best longboxes out there and have told the Mike himself that I feel that way on more than one occation, but that's not what the discussion is about here, I was talking shortboxes.  If I'm putting out a top ranking list for short boxes right now it would be dawkins and marlin tied at #1, then TJ at #3, Lapp would probably land #4 for me and Lamar would be #6...I'd say there's no disrespect there with that list.  So just like in my original post, I was responding to a guy that mentioned Lapp and Lamar and I think for all of the calls I've ran at call shows between those guys and personally own, that TJ is making a better shortbox right now, and I made sure to say that I like and own the other two in my original post.  I don't even own a call from TJ and not on his list (so this isn't me trying to hype up what I own, again I own several lamar and lapps so it's quite the opposite), but I've ran around 25 of the first 50 calls TJ has made and consistency is already through the roof so I feel like the young man deserves credit for his hard work regardless of how long he's been making calls as I based it off of finished product.  I do like how you said "maybe even an exceptional call"...keep running them and I guarantee you that "maybe" will be dropped from your sentence.  Pretty sure Albert Paul is the one that mentored Mike when he seeked it and Lamar never entered contest.

Never Roosting listen I gave TJ his due. When I said legendary I basically disagreed with your statement with being the 3rd best short box out there! (My Opinion) Everybody's ears are different and everyone likes are different. Lastly I DID NOT like the comment about Lapp and Lamar. I hope this clears up my response. (Again my opinion)  Here's my cell if you want to discuss any further 609-352-6957 Anytime

What part of the comment did you not like?  The part where I said I actually like their calls?  Saying I like one guy over the other isn't putting the other down when you are having to pick one or the other...I'm actually using them as a baseline standard to show that TJ is doing great bc they are highly respected by others and MYSELF.  If I didn't like Lapp and Lamar's calls, again I wouldn't have stated that I own several of their calls and that I like them (maybe I should have said "loved" instead)...seems like you are just taking the comment the opposite way than what I stated and turning it into something it's not.  Makes zero sense especially when you and I have hung out running calls at Mike's booth a number of times, BS'd and talk about how much we both like them.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: longbeard56 on February 06, 2019, 06:18:04 PM
Wow some great spirited debate over Good to Great. As long as while we are contemplating who the best are lets be sure to keep dragging, sharing, mentoring all the folks we can to enjoy the great treasure of Turkey history. Only 2 things will keep this great pipeline flowing new recruits and cash!!

Without that this great sport will dry up and so will allot of sawdust when us middle age old Toms & Hens head for the pasture!!

:smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: fordhunt on February 06, 2019, 07:16:49 PM
I have tj making me a call in the combo of Black limba and yellow heart .then I will share my opinion if it will stand with a Lapp. I have two of Mike's calls and there the best sounding box calls I own .if anyone here has a Lapp box in that combo and want to sale it ...Pm me please .
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: fountain2 on February 14, 2019, 06:16:17 PM
Dues paid and will put all doubt aside....
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: MDTOM84 on February 14, 2019, 06:19:49 PM
Well he just got 1st and 2nd for box calls at Nashville, also "Call Maker of the Year"
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: hunter22 on February 14, 2019, 06:44:10 PM
Fine young man who makes an outstanding box. Congrats to him.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Spring Creek Calls on February 14, 2019, 06:46:13 PM
Congratulations to TJ. Glad I bought those 2 boxes at Unicoi, price is about to go up!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 14, 2019, 06:46:41 PM
 :popcorn:  :jackson:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: hunter22 on February 14, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
Anyone have a list of the winners in the call making competition?
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 14, 2019, 06:56:41 PM
Quote from: hunter22 on February 14, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
Anyone have a list of the winners in the call making competition?

I believe Whitter won set (long and short)
Strawser one sider box
Platz DD Adams for his double sider
Riley glass
Roberts aluminum
Not sure on slate but I think those others are right, haven't seen an official list but that's what I heard
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: hunter22 on February 14, 2019, 07:02:59 PM
Thanks Brandon. No surprises here.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: HookedonHooks on February 14, 2019, 07:30:18 PM
Quote from: hunter22 on February 14, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
Anyone have a list of the winners in the call making competition?

1st place Pot Calls:
Slate - Riley Corder
Glass - Pat Strawser
"Other" - Brad Roberts with an aluminum
Two Sider - Paul Platz

DD Addams:  Paul Platz with his Walnut two sider.

1st place Box Calls:
Shortbox: TJ Johnson
Longbox:
One Sided: Strawser

Gibson Award: TJ Johnson shortbox 
Callmaker of the Year: TJ Johnson shortbox
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 14, 2019, 07:40:16 PM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on February 14, 2019, 07:30:18 PM
Quote from: hunter22 on February 14, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
Anyone have a list of the winners in the call making competition?

1st place Pot Calls:
Slate - Riley Corder
Glass - Pat Strawser
"Other" - Brad Roberts with an aluminum
Two Sider - Paul Platz

DD Addams:  Paul Platz with his Walnut two sider.

1st place Box Calls:
Shortbox: TJ Johnson
Longbox:
One Sided: Strawser

Gibson Award: TJ Johnson shortbox 
Callmaker of the Year: TJ Johnson shortbox

Figured I had something off, thanks for the update.  Pretty sure whitter with the box set
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Gog1015 on February 14, 2019, 08:54:17 PM
TJ makes an awesome box, he won 1st with an Ipe/persimmon combo and 2nd with a snakewood/holly.
If you have not purchased one of his boxes do yourself a favor and get on his list as I'm sure it will be growing fast now!

Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Spitten and drummen on February 14, 2019, 10:19:32 PM
Glad i got on his list before nashville.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: crenshawco on February 14, 2019, 10:57:16 PM
I'm glad Paul finally won the Adam's. His calls ain't getting any cheaper now
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Spitten and drummen on February 15, 2019, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: crenshawco on February 14, 2019, 10:57:16 PM
I'm glad Paul finally won the Adam's. His calls ain't getting any cheaper now

Means the seven I own probably just doubled in value
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on February 15, 2019, 08:59:07 AM
Quote from: crenshawco on February 14, 2019, 10:57:16 PM
I'm glad Paul finally won the Adam's. His calls ain't getting any cheaper now
And I just sold mine! Dang it boy!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 15, 2019, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on February 14, 2019, 07:30:18 PM
Quote from: hunter22 on February 14, 2019, 06:52:27 PM
Anyone have a list of the winners in the call making competition?

1st place Pot Calls:
Slate - Riley Corder
Glass - Pat Strawser
"Other" - Brad Roberts with an aluminum
Two Sider - Paul Platz

DD Addams:  Paul Platz with his Walnut two sider.

1st place Box Calls:
Shortbox: TJ Johnson
Longbox:
One Sided: Strawser

Gibson Award: TJ Johnson shortbox 
Callmaker of the Year: TJ Johnson shortbox

I heard there was a miss count on glass, and recount ended up that Platz won glass too now
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: jed clampett on February 15, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
Paul makes great calls..congrats to him...just wish you could get some. Without paying a arm and a leg and not taking orders!

Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: NeverRoosting on February 15, 2019, 01:17:52 PM
Quote from: jed clampett on February 15, 2019, 12:31:39 PM
Paul makes great calls..congrats to him...just wish you could get some. Without paying a arm and a leg and not taking orders!

For those in Nashville bidding on the calls he entered, it might take a left nut to go along with that arm and leg to land one of them.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: shatcher on February 15, 2019, 07:00:05 PM
He had a table set up and selling calls yesterday in Nashville.  He was with Marlin.  I bought two of Marlin's!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 15, 2019, 07:12:01 PM
Is TJs price the same as marlins?

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Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: shatcher on February 15, 2019, 07:24:28 PM
TJ was 175.  Marlin was 225.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Gog1015 on February 15, 2019, 09:15:16 PM
Depends on the combo as to what TJ and Marlin charge, TJ's combos start at $175 and they go up from there or that has been my experience.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: idratherb on February 16, 2019, 07:00:22 AM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: greencop01 on February 16, 2019, 08:27:59 AM
For my  :z-twocents: I like Albert Paul's short boxes. But your opinions and mine don't mean squat until it shines in the opinion of the master, Mr. Tom Turkey himself. We're all guilty saying our calls are superior to others by our ears and likes, not those of Mr. Tom. Its his opinion that matters MOST OF ALL.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Will on February 16, 2019, 11:17:51 AM
I have some nice drills and saws but that doesn't mean I can build a house. Calls are tools and being able to use these tools is something different. I do not have one of Mr Johnson's boxes yet but I look forward to getting my first one. I'm very happy that Mr Watkins has mentored him because I'm a huge fan of his calls. I hope Mr Johnson starts building yelpers to but hats off to him for continuing a tradition of building turkey calls. If I could I would!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: va longbeard on February 17, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
Anyone have any advice on wood combos from TJ for boxes I am on his list now.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 17, 2019, 07:45:19 PM
Quote from: va longbeard on February 17, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
Anyone have any advice on wood combos from TJ for boxes I am on his list now.
Macassar ebony over Holly ... I got one from him at Nashville ... outstanding on both sides ...
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: vt35mag on February 17, 2019, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: va longbeard on February 17, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
Anyone have any advice on wood combos from TJ for boxes I am on his list now.
Go with what he recommends with the wood he has on hand when your name is up.
Can make the difference between a good call and a smoking call, or being happy with a call and thrilled with a call.
I'm sure he has had a bunch of guys wanting an ipe/persimmon or snakewood/holly but the truth is when your name comes up he maybe making your call with wood from a different tree than what he made those calls from and may not tune the same or end up sounding similar

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Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: va longbeard on February 17, 2019, 08:07:25 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on February 17, 2019, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: va longbeard on February 17, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
Anyone have any advice on wood combos from TJ for boxes I am on his list now.
Go with what he recommends with the wood he has on hand when your name is up.
Can make the difference between a good call and a smoking call, and being happy with a call and thrilled with a call.

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Good advice I think that is what I am going to do!

Thanks
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 17, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on February 17, 2019, 08:05:49 PM
Quote from: va longbeard on February 17, 2019, 07:25:38 PM
Anyone have any advice on wood combos from TJ for boxes I am on his list now.
Go with what he recommends with the wood he has on hand when your name is up.
Can make the difference between a good call and a smoking call, or being happy with a call and thrilled with a call.
I'm sure he has had a bunch of guys wanting an ipe/persimmon or snakewood/holly but the truth is when your name comes up he maybe making your call with wood from a different tree than what he made those calls from and may not tune the same or end up sounding similar

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I agree with this 100 percent .. people love fruit boxes , but some fruit boxes can change from the best to the worst over a short period of time ...
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: crenshawco on February 18, 2019, 07:50:27 PM
I've got a bloodwood / cherry headed my way from TJ tomorrow. It sounds awesome in the sound file too. Glad I got on the list before Nashville!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: OHturkey85 on February 18, 2019, 08:17:03 PM
I picked up a hop hornbeam over rainbow poplar from TJ in Nashville it has a nice whiny Yelp to it he's doing a great job with the fiddle boxes!
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: yelpaholic on February 20, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
Greg Massey interesting , I'd never heard about fruit boxes changing tones. I assume you mean apple persimmon ......
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 20, 2019, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: yelpaholic on February 20, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
Greg Massey interesting , I'd never heard about fruit boxes changing tones. I assume you mean apple persimmon ......
Yes apple , pear more so than persimmon .... apple and pear in my opinion are the most finicky...
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: culpeper on February 20, 2019, 03:39:57 PM
And what do you believe is the reason for the finicky fruit boxes?
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 20, 2019, 08:02:43 PM
Quote from: culpeper on February 20, 2019, 03:39:57 PM
And what do you believe is the reason for the finicky fruit boxes?
Age of the wood , i guess ... I would say some could get better over time and some worst ....Some call builders do at least build and wait over 3 months and check tuning on boxes before shipping ...Some don't ...
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: culpeper on February 21, 2019, 10:59:52 AM
Do you think the fruit woods are mutually exclusive in this regard, or could perhaps all wood species exhibit similar "finicky" inconsistencies to a certain extent, whether or not induced by the call maker, or simply due to natural causes?
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: dwcim on February 21, 2019, 11:44:30 AM
My opinion is that all species are vulnerable to movement, some more than others due to hardness, grain boundaries and grain structure,(electron sharing and covalent bonding), machining technique or material removal (callmaker) and stresses associated with natural phenomena such as creep.  These stresses exhibit expansion and contraction due to changing thermal conditions, moisture content, aging processes(age harding) and other natural occurrences associated with wood or any other material natural or man made.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Spitten and drummen on February 21, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
Waiting on my chakte viga over black limba very soon.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: culpeper on February 21, 2019, 12:56:53 PM
dwcim,  :icon_thumright: ;)now that's what I am talking about.  I too can't think of a single species of wood that isn't susceptable to this condition to to some degree or another based on the conditions/circumstances you indicate.  From my experience, both in building calls and in building furniture it takes place a lot and it's not exclusive nor more prone to happen to the 'fruit' wood species as opposed to others.  They all react differently, some more some less to the forces acted on them and then how they respond.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 21, 2019, 01:31:53 PM
Quote from: culpeper on February 21, 2019, 12:56:53 PM
dwcim,  :icon_thumright: ;)now that's what I am talking about.  I too can't think of a single species of wood that isn't susceptable to this condition to to some degree or another based on the conditions/circumstances you indicate.  From my experience, both in building calls and in building furniture it takes place a lot and it's not exclusive nor more prone to happen to the 'fruit' wood species as opposed to others.  They all react differently, some more some less to the forces acted on them and then how they respond.
X2 .. i agree .... good post and good discussion ...
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 21, 2019, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 21, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
Waiting on my chakte viga over black limba very soon.
Got one from him at Unicoi and it's a player ... you want be disappointed ....I think he sold everyone he had in this combo at the show ....
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 21, 2019, 01:40:03 PM
Quote from: culpeper on February 21, 2019, 12:56:53 PM
dwcim,  :icon_thumright: ;)now that's what I am talking about.  I too can't think of a single species of wood that isn't susceptable to this condition to to some degree or another based on the conditions/circumstances you indicate.  From my experience, both in building calls and in building furniture it takes place a lot and it's not exclusive nor more prone to happen to the 'fruit' wood species as opposed to others.  They all react differently, some more some less to the forces acted on them and then how they respond.
How many fruit boxes have you built ? Why do you not build fruit boxes or do you build fruit boxes ?
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Spitten and drummen on February 21, 2019, 01:53:09 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on February 21, 2019, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 21, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
Waiting on my chakte viga over black limba very soon.
Got one from him at Unicoi and it's a player ... you want be disappointed ....I think he sold everyone he had in this combo at the show ....

I heard the soundfile of the one im suppose to get and it sounded very impressive. He sent 5 diffrent combo soundfiles and I picked that out.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: fordhunt on February 22, 2019, 11:11:07 AM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 21, 2019, 12:39:17 PM
Waiting on my chakte viga over black limba very soon.
me too ????????
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: 3bailey3 on February 22, 2019, 12:29:18 PM
how long is the wait time on his calls now?
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 22, 2019, 12:38:38 PM
Quote from: 3bailey3 on February 22, 2019, 12:29:18 PM
how long is the wait time on his calls now?
If you do facebook , you can become friends and message him.. he's always willing to help and he will get back with you...
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: culpeper on February 22, 2019, 02:43:51 PM
Greg, I have built 7 'fruit' boxes of various woods, Apple, Persimmon, though I don't believe Persimmon is really a fruit tree and Black Cherry.  All were Short Boxes, the Cherry have worked very well.  The Persimmon was good, but not sure I pushed it far enough and I plan to build more this year.
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: Greg Massey on February 22, 2019, 03:12:07 PM
Quote from: culpeper on February 22, 2019, 02:43:51 PM
Greg, I have built 7 'fruit' boxes of various woods, Apple, Persimmon, though I don't believe Persimmon is really a fruit tree and Black Cherry.  All were Short Boxes, the Cherry have worked very well.  The Persimmon was good, but not sure I pushed it far enough and I plan to build more this year.
I agree with you some of the persimmon and black cherry make some killer boxes ...  you need to put  a Mora / apple or snakewood /apple together ... that would be interesting combo ... I didn't know if persimmon was a fruit either, but in looking it up i guess it's a fruit ..
Title: Re: Tj Johnson call
Post by: crenshawco on February 24, 2019, 10:29:56 PM
I got my call from TJ today, and I can't put it down. He's definitely got it figured out, and will be doing Marlin an honor carrying on his legacy.

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