Have you guys seen this ridiculous crap? Sad to see a call company sell out so bad, the strutter decoy craze was bad enough but this fanning/reaping has reached an all time low
Yeah I've seen it alot of people like hunting that way but it's not for me.
What we as turkey hunters need to stand up and admit is if you understand turkey biology then this is not another approach to taking your gobbler. This is not just a different tactic to bag your gobbler, it's specifically using turkey behavior against them to leverage the kill. I'm not an elitist that judges how others hunt, but this is not just how you choose to hunt. This isn't a strategy, it's more of a manipulation based off science and behavior, and being called hunting. You may go for it, but you haven't done much
Quote from: Ranger on January 20, 2019, 12:18:41 PM
What we as turkey hunters need to stand up and admit is if you understand turkey biology then this is not another approach to taking your gobbler. This is not just a different tactic to bag your gobbler, it's specifically using turkey behavior against them to leverage the kill. I'm not an elitist that judges how others hunt, but this is not just how you choose to hunt. This isn't a strategy, it's more of a manipulation based off science and behavior, and being called hunting. You may go for it, but you haven't done much
You described turkey hunting. What's the issue? I use gobble calls,kee kee runs and jake decoys in the Spring.
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I'm sure they will sell.
So, for all the purists oh-so appalled at people hunting turkeys from inside a blind (Gasp!!!), are you willing to give up your $10 a shot, 70-yard plus tungsten shotgun shells? How about those $100 choke tubes that mate so well with said paycheck busting ammunition? Maybe we should all just sport a loin cloth, wing bone call and chuck spears at our favorite query. But then again, one of us cromags might start thinking outside of the box and tie some grass and twigs to their loin cloth in order to blend in a little better than the average dupe donning "natural flaxseed" brown. And that just wouldn't do for purist set! I mean, we've got to maintain our principles!
And we all just want to go hunting and have a good time...as long as it's our way.
Quote from: Ranger on January 20, 2019, 12:18:41 PM
What we as turkey hunters need to stand up and admit is if you understand turkey biology then this is not another approach to taking your gobbler. This is not just a different tactic to bag your gobbler, it's specifically using turkey behavior against them to leverage the kill. I'm not an elitist that judges how others hunt, but this is not just how you choose to hunt. This isn't a strategy, it's more of a manipulation based off science and behavior, and being called hunting. You may go for it, but you haven't done much
Agreed. If I had to stoop to such gimmicks to kill a gobbler I'd take up fishing. Or at the very least keep it to myself. I laugh every time someone gets butt hurt when someone says something about blinds/decoys/fanning etc. they just admitted to the world they can't kill a gobbler without such tactics lol.
Also my choke tube cost $19.00 and I don't shoot TSS.
(https://www.primos.com/PrimosHunting/media/Products/Ground%20Blinds/Double%20Bull/65159_Surroundview_Turkey_Decoy_1.png)
What could possibly go wrong?
Quote from: SteelerFan on January 20, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
(https://www.primos.com/PrimosHunting/media/Products/Ground%20Blinds/Double%20Bull/65159_Surroundview_Turkey_Decoy_1.png)
What could possibly go wrong?
You need the other half for a good umbrella ... each his own , buy what you want... just not my style ..I do like his camo.. nice wear ...
I have quit hunting around farmland because that's where this crap gets used and they wipe out every field bird in short order.
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Anything for a social media hero picture.
If anyone thinks this is a good idea for turkey hunting, go for it.
Quote from: SteelerFan on January 20, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
(https://www.primos.com/PrimosHunting/media/Products/Ground%20Blinds/Double%20Bull/65159_Surroundview_Turkey_Decoy_1.png)
What could possibly go wrong?
Might need #5 tss for that one. That's a big bird.
If I thumped out what looks like a 75lb strutter image the birds I'd hunt wouldnt stop running til they hit the next county.
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Quote from: Ranger on January 20, 2019, 12:18:41 PM
What we as turkey hunters need to stand up and admit is if you understand turkey biology then this is not another approach to taking your gobbler. This is not just a different tactic to bag your gobbler, it's specifically using turkey behavior against them to leverage the kill. I'm not an elitist that judges how others hunt, but this is not just how you choose to hunt. This isn't a strategy, it's more of a manipulation based off science and behavior, and being called hunting. You may go for it, but you haven't done much
I don't reap don't do any of that and not sure I agree with it being legal primarily for safety reasons but what you just stated "a manipulation based off science and behavior" is a poor argument considering calling a turkey in would be based off manipulating their science and behavior.
It seems to me sometimes people that argue against it have sour grapes due to believing there should only be one right way to kill a turkey and it chaps your butt that someone else killed a gobbler that you don't perceive as legitimate.
Again, I don't like it and it's not the way i was taught to hunt. I believe the true enjoyment and addiction of the sport is working a bird to a call and winning the chess match or losing the chess match for that matter. But why get worked up over what someone else chooses to do. Just know in the back of your mind that they are truly missing out on one of the most magical and unique experiences you can have in the woods and if you ever get the chance to mentor a new hunter do it and teach them the right way to do it.
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No different than that turkey fan umbrella a few years ago. A guy we hunted with in Kansas tried one and it just scared them off
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People get shot turkey hunting while sitting against a tree. During a Spring hunt my buddy had a idiot jump out of a truck,rush a field and shoot his hen decoy. This was 20 years ago.When confronted the guy said,"it's turkey season". I've had to yell at road hunters with rifles while Fall hunting. I've been stalked while Fall and Spring hunting. Had a guy swinging his gun towards me and my buddy while calling in Fall. I shot over my buddy on a Fall hunt becouse he wasn't where he said he would be. It's dangerous no matter how you hunt.
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I am from MS., Mr. Primos home state, I wish I can find the footage of Will when he got up before our state legislature and begged them not to allow the use of any decoy, said it would be the end of our sport, my how times have changed!!
You would think the fellow would at least dress his legs up to look like turkey legs. Guys are paying $300 dollars for a more realistic decoy and this guy pulls this stunt? Geesh.
I agree that it's asinine and dangerous but to each their own, maybe we should try not arguing about stupid stuff as most know anyone that would use this is not a turkey hunter and will prob not...nevermind were getting along....
Quote from: 3bailey3 on January 20, 2019, 08:31:37 PM
I am from MS., Mr. Primos home state, I wish I can find the footage of Will when he got up before our state legislature and begged them not to allow the use of any decoy, said it would be the end of our sport, my how times have changed!!
No way....how many years ago was that?
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Quote from: 3bailey3 on January 20, 2019, 08:31:37 PM
I am from MS., Mr. Primos home state, I wish I can find the footage of Will when he got up before our state legislature and begged them not to allow the use of any decoy, said it would be the end of our sport, my how times have changed!!
Yea a lot changed when primos got bought out several years back. It's a shame Will was and still is a purist in a sense and is also a very good turkey hunter. It's a shame to see companies selling out.
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fallhnt I think it was mid 80's, BB30 Will is not a purist, to have the opinion he had then and the crap they are putting out now, I call that a sell out... but he has done very well for his family!
He was a purist at one point. Do agree that if you are going to take a stance you should stick with it.
Once they sold the company to private equity everything became about the $$$.
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Quote from: SteelerFan on January 20, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
(https://www.primos.com/PrimosHunting/media/Products/Ground%20Blinds/Double%20Bull/65159_Surroundview_Turkey_Decoy_1.png)
What could possibly go wrong?
At least he has some great camo on :TooFunny:
Quote from: TauntoHawk on January 20, 2019, 06:21:38 PM
If I thumped out what looks like a 75lb strutter image the birds I'd hunt wouldnt stop running til they hit the next county.
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Agreed but to each his own. I hope all the neighbors use them this season and push the birds to the property that I hunt...lol :funnyturkey:
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Quote from: SteelerFan on January 20, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
(https://www.primos.com/PrimosHunting/media/Products/Ground%20Blinds/Double%20Bull/65159_Surroundview_Turkey_Decoy_1.png)
What could possibly go wrong?
At least he has some great camo on :TooFunny:
The perfect gift for your mother in law!
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Quote from: TauntoHawk on January 20, 2019, 06:21:38 PM
If I thumped out what looks like a 75lb strutter image the birds I'd hunt wouldnt stop running til they hit the next county.
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:TooFunny:
Primos is essentially the "Fisher Price" of 'hunting' products. I have a good laugh at the ridiculous junk they overprice and sell at walmart season after season. ..... and they are laughing all the way to the bank.
Quote from: chefrific on January 22, 2019, 09:05:15 AM
Primos is essentially the "Fisher Price" of 'hunting' products. I have a good laugh at the ridiculous junk they overprice and sell at walmart season after season. ..... and they are laughing all the way to the bank.
Back when I started hunting in the 90's I really liked them, they are getting a little to the point of stupidity now on some stuff. Others I like like that blind that they have that can't be seen into.
Remember the wing thing?
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Quote from: fallhnt on January 22, 2019, 09:05:03 PM
Remember the wing thing?
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I mentioned it in a post earlier today as a matter of fact, still have it. Here you go, this is where I mention it. http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php/topic,86523.0/topicseen.html
Quote from: fallhnt on January 22, 2019, 09:05:03 PM
Remember the wing thing?
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I've seen them sell on eBay for 80$ hard to believe someone would pay that for a piece of plastic with hand full of feathers. I do however carry a real turkey wing at all times...I've killed several old Gobblers with nothing else. One of the early Primos turkey videos has a hunt when they used nothing but a real wing to kill a Gobbler.
If you think that's dumb...
Seen where a guy mounted a gobbler decoy to his head, yes that's right put a target on your head and run around...
Something we cover at Hunter's Ed every year about safety and this happens.
MK M GOBL
It's real purpose is to decrease the competition for a given number of birds.
Quote from: SteelerFan on January 20, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
(https://www.primos.com/PrimosHunting/media/Products/Ground%20Blinds/Double%20Bull/65159_Surroundview_Turkey_Decoy_1.png)
What could possibly go wrong?
haha looks like a great way to get shot in the balls
Quote from: Phillipshunt on January 22, 2019, 11:37:08 PM
Quote from: fallhnt on January 22, 2019, 09:05:03 PM
Remember the wing thing?
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I've seen them sell on eBay for 80$ hard to believe someone would pay that for a piece of plastic with hand full of feathers. I do however carry a real turkey wing at all times...I've killed several old Gobblers with nothing else. One of the early Primos turkey videos has a hunt when they used nothing but a real wing to kill a Gobbler.
I wonder if you are thinking of the right thing, the Wing Thing had papers on it attached to a handle and you would spread them out and they would sound like a wing. I have to remember where I put it but I will send you a picture or post it to this thread if you would like?
Primos made the "Real wing" which is what I was talking about. Lohman made the "wing thing" sense the subject was Primos I assumed y'all meant the wing Primos sold. Either way they both look like wastes of money lol.
Quote from: Phillipshunt on January 23, 2019, 08:22:15 PM
Primos made the "Real wing" which is what I was talking about. Lohman made the "wing thing" sense the subject was Primos I assumed y'all meant the wing Primos sold. Either way they both look like wastes of money lol.
I agree. Just using my hat has always worked for me.
Quote from: Phillipshunt on January 23, 2019, 08:22:15 PM
Primos made the "Real wing" which is what I was talking about. Lohman made the "wing thing" sense the subject was Primos I assumed y'all meant the wing Primos sold. Either way they both look like wastes of money lol.
Oh sorry for my mistake, I did not realize there were two of similar name. I have had them come into the Lohman like I said, using that, fly down cackle and scratching some leaves and soft yelping got them up close to me and have had them come close though not as close as I mention in that thread. You have to be sure to spread it out well or it sounds you you are thumping a book on your leg.
Quote from: notsure on January 20, 2019, 01:22:18 PM
So, for all the purists oh-so appalled at people hunting turkeys from inside a blind (Gasp!!!), are you willing to give up your $10 a shot, 70-yard plus tungsten shotgun shells?
You apparently are not familiar with the appearance and silliness of the blind mentioned in the OP. It is not a conventional sit inside blind. See the images before you get back up on the soapbox.
All I can think of is "I'm Mary Poppins y'all"
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Quote from: tomstopper on January 23, 2019, 08:24:02 PM
Quote from: Phillipshunt on January 23, 2019, 08:22:15 PM
Primos made the "Real wing" which is what I was talking about. Lohman made the "wing thing" sense the subject was Primos I assumed y'all meant the wing Primos sold. Either way they both look like wastes of money lol.
I agree. Just using my hat has always worked for me.
This is what I learned after I had bought it, but it is still going strong (Lohman version) so I will use it till it dies and then beat up my hats :D
It just hit me as I was posting in another thread on here that guesswho should patent his badonkedonk decoy and sell it to primos..... (For everyone new on here, maybe you will get lucky and he will post a pic of it) Lol.
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I know a bunch of young guys that scour the county and try it on just about every bird they see in the field. They think it's a hoot. Me not so much. I will never try it and hope those that do never end up with a load of 5s in their snoot
2 things come to mind when I see this... First if someone showed up to camp with this they would be submitting themselves to a lifetime of jokes and 2nd there are way too many outlaws on country roads that will take shots at anything that resembles a strutter. Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen....
'You apparently are not familiar with the appearance and silliness of the blind mentioned in the OP. It is not a conventional sit inside blind. See the images before you get back up on the soapbox.
No, I'm familiar with the product in question AND the local contingent of "purist priests" on this site that label anyone who hunts turkeys from a ground blind as "non-ethical hunters". Enter the search terms "turkey" and "blind" if you don't believe me. The obvious point I was attempting to make was that many of these same purists who scoff at the idea of using the new Primos blind/decoy/umbrella, or a regular ground blind for that matter, have no issue at all trudging into the woods with a shotgun/ammunition combination capable of reliably killing turkeys out to nearly 100 yards. Personally, I don't have a problem with any of it, and take the position that if it's legal, it's OK. Now, I surely agree with comments questioning the safe use of hunting with the new Primos blind. It's certainly a non-starter on public land, and you better be damn sure no one else is hunting the back 40 you're walking into. That said, pronghorn hunters have been using a similar approach when bow hunting for over a decade. And they continue to do so, because it works.
Y'all were trudging around and killing at 70, now it's 100 yards? Dang fellas,that's exactly why I knew it would be better to get the struttbrellablind instead of TSS...this product will revolutionize the sport. How about that sporty handle too? Maybe Will Primos will do a demo video soon, and slayers everywhere will be modding the Kill View Port and the handle for efficiency, maybe YouTube videos. I'd make it a tripod framework so you can set it down without tipping.
Quote from: notsure on January 25, 2019, 02:22:08 PM
'You apparently are not familiar with the appearance and silliness of the blind mentioned in the OP. It is not a conventional sit inside blind. See the images before you get back up on the soapbox.
No, I'm familiar with the product in question AND the local contingent of "purist priests" on this site that label anyone who hunts turkeys from a ground blind as "non-ethical hunters". Enter the search terms "turkey" and "blind" if you don't believe me. The obvious point I was attempting to make was that many of these same purists who scoff at the idea of using the new Primos blind/decoy/umbrella, or a regular ground blind for that matter, have no issue at all trudging into the woods with a shotgun/ammunition combination capable of reliably killing turkeys out to nearly 100 yards. Personally, I don't have a problem with any of it, and take the position that if it's legal, it's OK. Now, I surely agree with comments questioning the safe use of hunting with the new Primos blind. It's certainly a non-starter on public land, and you better be damn sure no one else is hunting the back 40 you're walking into. That said, pronghorn hunters have been using a similar approach when bow hunting for over a decade. And they continue to do so, because it works.
I agree.
Too much of worrying about what's going on in the other blind and not enough minding your own business. Elitism at its best. Bubba