I am new to this forum and do not have much experience with turkey hunting. My son has a 935 with 28" barrel and I just bought a new 835 two months ago. We have put Burris Fast Fires on both guns. Put an Indian Creek .675 on the 935. It didn't seem to make an amazing difference in pattern shooting Win. Supreme #6.
The 835 has the ported barrel and adjustable trigger and Ulti-full Moss. choke. I am not impressed with the pattern this gun shoots with Win. Supreme #6. I am considering putting a Pure Gold on the 835 for a better pattern and to compare it with the Indian Creek choke on my son's 935.
Does anyone have any other suggestions to tighten up our patterns? I am also considering going to Hevi #7.
the winchesre supremes, federal and hevi all shot good at 25 yrds,, but only the hevi held a great patttern at 40 yards.. i shoot a mossy also .. i shoot hevi 3" 7's now.. i patterned all sorts of shells.. the hevi 3" 6's do well too
Hevi shot will provide you with the increased pattern density you are looking for. Go with the #7s
Quote from: Gobble! on April 25, 2011, 11:15:20 AM
Hevi shot will provide you with the increased pattern density you are looking for. Go with the #7s
:agreed: :icon_thumright:
Quote from: Gobble! on April 25, 2011, 11:15:20 AM
Hevi shot will provide you with the increased pattern density you are looking for. Go with the #7s
:agreed:
A Pure Gold will smoke in the 835 with 2.25oz #7's.
I don't want to shoot 3 1/2 loads in the 835. The 3 in. loads have as much recoil as I want to deal with. The 935 is a much more comfortable gun to shoot and my son has shot 3 1/2 loads with no problem. He is 16 years old and about 120 lbs.
Quote from: jim570 on April 25, 2011, 11:26:30 AM
I don't want to shoot 3 1/2 loads in the 835. The 3 in. loads have as much recoil as I want to deal with. The 935 is a much more comfortable gun to shoot and my son has shot 3 1/2 loads with no problem. He is 16 years old and about 120 lbs.
You can try 3" shells, patterns are pretty good too.
Jim,
I second the 3 1/2" #7s with a Pure Gold .670 choke. Add a Limbsaver on the back end and the 835 shoots like a 20 guage with Dove loads. SWEET SHOOTING TURKEY KILLER!!!!!!
For starters get rid of the factory choke in your 835, get something in the .670-.675 range and get some Hevi-13 3.5" #7's. Buy a Limbsaver recoil pad and a Beartooth comb rasing kit and you will want to shoot it all day long! If you add these two things to your gun it makes a HUGE difference and it does feel like shooting a 20 gauge, I wouldn't shy away from the 3.5's.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 25, 2011, 11:46:02 AM
For starters get rid of the factory choke in your 835, get something in the .670-.675 range and get some Hevi-13 3.5" #7's. Buy a Limbsaver recoil pad and a Beartooth comb rasing kit and you will want to shoot it all day long! If you add these two things to your gun it makes a HUGE difference and it does feel like shooting a 20 gauge, I wouldn't shy away from the 3.5's.
I wouldn't shy away from the 3.5's either. You're selling yourself and the gun short.
The limb saver at the least will make your shotgun more enjoyable. The turkey loads from Environ metal in #6 or #7 shot 3 inch or 3 1/2 in will do the job. The shells cost more money but are worth it. Practice with lead and shot for real with HM loads. Good luck and have fun.
Quote from: goblr77 on April 25, 2011, 11:54:17 AM
Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 25, 2011, 11:46:02 AM
For starters get rid of the factory choke in your 835, get something in the .670-.675 range and get some Hevi-13 3.5" #7's. Buy a Limbsaver recoil pad and a Beartooth comb rasing kit and you will want to shoot it all day long! If you add these two things to your gun it makes a HUGE difference and it does feel like shooting a 20 gauge, I wouldn't shy away from the 3.5's.
I wouldn't shy away from the 3.5's either. You're selling yourself and the gun short.
I agree.
Pure Gold .670 is the way to go or find a good Star Dot. A Tru -Glo SSX .670 will shoot very well for the money.
Quote from: jim570 on April 25, 2011, 11:06:24 AM
I am new to this forum and do not have much experience with turkey hunting. My son has a 935 with 28" barrel and I just bought a new 835 two months ago. We have put Burris Fast Fires on both guns. Put an Indian Creek .675 on the 935. It didn't seem to make an amazing difference in pattern shooting Win. Supreme #6.
The 835 has the ported barrel and adjustable trigger and Ulti-full Moss. choke. I am not impressed with the pattern this gun shoots with Win. Supreme #6. I am considering putting a Pure Gold on the 835 for a better pattern and to compare it with the Indian Creek choke on my son's 935.
Does anyone have any other suggestions to tighten up our patterns? I am also considering going to Hevi #7.
First of all welcome to OG. I shoot both of those guns. One of the most important things that you can do to enhance performance of your fine Mossberg guns is to "deep clean" the bore. If you're not familiar with that procedure, here's an article that you may find helpful. http://allaboutshooting.com/article_info.php?articles_id=282 It will really help more than you might imagine.
I prefer to shoot 3" shells in my 835 & 935 because they pattern very well and have less recoil which allows me to get off a second shot if necessary. I recommend the 3" Hevi-13 "Bronze" shells with 2 oz. of either #6 or #7 shot. Both will pattern very well.
The 835 - 935 guns with those shells, in my experience, normally do much better with chokes with a .670 exit diameter than any other. I've had excellent patterns with the Pure Gold and SSX. The exception to that rule for me has been the Hevi-13 Turkey Choke with an e.d. of .676 and that's all about the "internals".
I normally use a slip on recoil pad over the factory pad when patterning. I like the Shooter's Friend because it only adds 1/4" to the length of pull but really helps with reducing recoil and it's very moderately priced as well.
You have 2 great guns and with just a little work, they should both give you outstanding patterns and years of trouble free service.
Thanks,
Clark
My opinion on the 835. If you are going to truly ring out the advantage of having a 835 or 935 with the larger .775 backbore barrel, there really is no need to shoot 3" shells in either gun unless you are worried about recoil. And if that is the case then I would suggest folks to just buy a 3" chamber or better yet a 2 and 3/4" chamber gun and stick with those. Here's why I say that about the 3" shells. And the same thing goes for the Star Dot choke as well.
These are both the same Pure Gold .670 choke out of my 835 shot at a taped 40yds. Only shot one shot of each through this choke the last time I shot. The 3.5" load was the very first shot through this new choke by the way.
Hevi-13" 3" 2oz #7's
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00654.jpg)
Hevi-13 3.5" 2 and 1/4oz #7's
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00565.jpg)
Now is shooting the 1/4oz less shot in the 3" shell worth the less pattern density you will get just because it is saving your shoulder by a little bit?
Get the point? :z-guntootsmiley:
Switch to Hevi -13 3 1/2 inch #7 shotshells and put a Indian Creek .675 or a Pure Gold .670 choke in, and you will be surprised. This is my first year shooting the Hevi's and i will never go back to lead after seeing the results from them. Im getting 290 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards out of my Mossberg 935 with a Indian creek .675 Choke. I have done my homework and i am comfortable killing a bird out to about 60 yards if need be.
Quote from: JustinM on April 25, 2011, 03:35:06 PM
Switch to Hevi -13 3 1/2 inch #7 shotshells and put a Indian Creek .675 or a Pure Gold .670 choke in, and you will be surprised. This is my first year shooting the Hevi's and i will never go back to lead after seeing the results from them. Im getting 290 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards out of my Mossberg 935 with a Indian creek .675 Choke. I have done my homework and i am comfortable killing a bird out to about 60 yards if need be.
x2. As long as you get a good lot number.
And I was talking about factory loads. If you reload you own and can get a 3" shelle to put 350 shot or more in a 10" than I can see your reasoning for only shooting a 3" shell. For the point would be moot.
But I will say this if you can get almost a 300 shot pattern in a 10" with a factory load 3" shell, I can see using that too. It's all in what you are really wanting and how dense of a pattern I guess.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on April 25, 2011, 11:46:02 AM
For starters get rid of the factory choke in your 835, get something in the .670-.675 range and get some Hevi-13 3.5" #7's. Buy a Limbsaver recoil pad and a Beartooth comb rasing kit and you will want to shoot it all day long! If you add these two things to your gun it makes a HUGE difference and it does feel like shooting a 20 gauge, I wouldn't shy away from the 3.5's.
This is a new 835. It came with two comb pieces for high or normal position. It also has a pretty decent recoil pad along with a ported barrel and very nice adjustable trigger.
Ordered a Pure Gold .670 for it today. I am anxious to see how it compares to the Indian Creek .675 on my son's 935.
Quote from: jim570 on April 25, 2011, 09:04:03 PM
Ordered a Pure Gold .670 for it today. I am anxious to see how it compares to the Indian Creek .675 on my son's 935.
Well I got your answer on that one too.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00853.jpg)
And here was the Star Dot on the same exact day that one above was shot with the Indian Creek. I think the temp was around 58 degrees or so.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00844.jpg)
Quote from: Gobble! on April 25, 2011, 03:56:47 PM
Quote from: JustinM on April 25, 2011, 03:35:06 PM
Switch to Hevi -13 3 1/2 inch #7 shotshells and put a Indian Creek .675 or a Pure Gold .670 choke in, and you will be surprised. This is my first year shooting the Hevi's and i will never go back to lead after seeing the results from them. Im getting 290 pellets in a 10 inch circle at 40 yards out of my Mossberg 935 with a Indian creek .675 Choke. I have done my homework and i am comfortable killing a bird out to about 60 yards if need be.
x2. As long as you get a good lot number.
Im Surprised but the shells im shooting are this years lot #300488 and im getting 290.
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Well here's another one shot prior to the first 357 10" I shot with the Pure Gold the last time I shot. This was the first shot of the day. 360 followed by a 357 ain't bad. Lot # I'm almost certain was 300325. Temp was 74 degrees when I left the house.
(http://www.hunt101.com/data/526/DSCF00593.jpg)
I might add 3" shells won't come close to them numbers.
I never noticed anything called Hevi Shot on the store shelves. Maybe because I just never looked for them. Where are the best places to buy it and is there a certain brand?
I get a chance every couple of weeks to go to the Pa. Cabela's.
Quote from: jim570 on April 25, 2011, 09:35:57 PM
I never noticed anything called Hevi Shot on the store shelves. Maybe because I just never looked for them. Where are the best places to buy it and is there a certain brand?
I get a chance every couple of weeks to go to the Pa. Cabela's.
I Think u can get the Hevi-13 Magblends at a Dick's sporting good store this year but in order to get the hevi-13's in say 5,6,or 7 shot u will have to order them offline, or find a local gunshop that maybe carry's them.
Pass on the mag blends and go for the 3.5" #7's.
And put a nikon turkey pro on it with the pure gold and limbsaver pad ;D
Quote from: cgarner1 on April 27, 2011, 10:27:17 PM
And put a nikon turkey pro on it with the pure gold and limbsaver pad ;D
Just put Burris Fast Fire on the 835 and my son's 935. Should be getting a Pure Gold in the mail today. Might go with a limbsaver pad, also.
Shoot the 3" shell if you want. I have the 835 and have shot both 3.5 and 3" shells. I orginally bought the gun for waterfowl when I wanted to try it but decided it was to early and cold for me so I decided on turning it into a turkey gun. I shoot Hevi shot 3" 1 5/8oz. #6s with a 24in barrel and a star dot choke. The sight is a simmons pro-diamond scope 4x32mm. She is not camo and the sling is one of those removeable shotgun slings. Misjudged distance on this bird with this gun on last Friday, thought it was 45 yards, but STEPPED it off at 63 yards. He went down like a ton of bricks. Try different loads and go with what patterns good and what you feel comfortable with. The Pure Gold, never shot one, should shoot great from what I hear. Good Luck!
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