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Title: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 04:05:20 PM
I was just wondering how different people hold there strikers, I hear there are different ways but have not really seen it discussed or demonstrated before. I pretty much just hold mine like I would a pen and put my pinky finger at the outside edge of the pot off the surface and go in a counterclockwise motion for yelps, downward for clucks and putts.

Anybody have a different method?

Oh when you use a wooden striker does it make a difference if you go with or against the grain on the striker?
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: misfire on August 03, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
Like a pencil, but with the index finger extended. This allows me to exert pressure with my thumb on the striker which can change the pitch of the call.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: misfire on August 03, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
Like a pencil, but with the index finger extended. This allows me to exert pressure with my thumb on the striker which can change the pitch of the call.
Any difference in the way the grain on wooden strikers work?
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: greencop01 on August 03, 2018, 09:18:38 PM
Making contact w/three fingers of my right hand, LIGHTLY. Use my fingers to cluck yelp etc. Use my thumb for pressure.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: nyhunter on August 03, 2018, 09:36:37 PM

Making contact w/three fingers of my right hand, LIGHTLY. Use my fingers to cluck yelp etc. Use my thumb for pressure.

X2, moving my contact points up and down the striker change the picth
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 10:04:06 PM
Quote from: nyhunter on August 03, 2018, 09:36:37 PM

Making contact w/three fingers of my right hand, LIGHTLY. Use my fingers to cluck yelp etc. Use my thumb for pressure.

X2, moving my contact points up and down the striker change the picth
Thank you both.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on August 03, 2018, 10:13:20 PM
Thumb pressing into my middle finger with striker in between. Index finger straight out and striker hand resting on pot
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 10:43:59 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on August 03, 2018, 10:13:20 PM
Thumb pressing into my middle finger with striker in between. Index finger straight out and striker hand resting on pot
When you say index finger straight out do you mean going along length of striker or like straight out in the air?
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Tail Feathers on August 03, 2018, 10:44:25 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on August 03, 2018, 10:13:20 PM
Thumb pressing into my middle finger with striker in between. Index finger straight out and striker hand resting on pot

Same here.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 10:48:50 PM
Quote from: Tail Feathers on August 03, 2018, 10:44:25 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on August 03, 2018, 10:13:20 PM
Thumb pressing into my middle finger with striker in between. Index finger straight out and striker hand resting on pot
I will ask the same question to you then as you are on right now. When you say index finger straight out do you mean going along length of striker or like straight out in the air? Thanks for the reply by the way.

Same here.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Greg Massey on August 03, 2018, 11:12:11 PM
In the heat of the battle , i don't worry about how i hold the striker that much, i just want to make sure i'm playing the music the turkey wants to dance toooo....  :jackson:
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on August 03, 2018, 11:12:11 PM
In the heat of the battle , i don't worry about how i hold the striker that much, i just want to make sure i'm playing the music the turkey wants to dance toooo....  :jackson:
lol Yes but we all have to have that starting point to get that pot to play the tune.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Greg Massey on August 04, 2018, 12:00:06 AM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on August 03, 2018, 11:12:11 PM
In the heat of the battle , i don't worry about how i hold the striker that much, i just want to make sure i'm playing the music the turkey wants to dance toooo....  :jackson:
lol Yes but we all have to have that starting point to get that pot to play the tune.
Just keep trying , you will get the hang of it after 40 years of hunting .....
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 05:36:18 AM
Quote from: Greg Massey on August 04, 2018, 12:00:06 AM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on August 03, 2018, 11:12:11 PM
In the heat of the battle , i don't worry about how i hold the striker that much, i just want to make sure i'm playing the music the turkey wants to dance toooo....  :jackson:
lol Yes but we all have to have that starting point to get that pot to play the tune.
Just keep trying , you will get the hang of it after 40 years of hunting .....
I have a hang of it my way, but there are always other ways of doing things, some better and some not, I am just not arrogant enough to think my way is necessarily the best way just because I have been doing it for a long time. You know, it is called learning.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: shatcher on August 04, 2018, 08:04:52 AM
What spitting and drumming said.  Will Primos has an excellent youtube out there on how to do it.  Use your thumb to press the striker against the first knuckle of your middle finger.  The striker will rest behind the last knuckle of your index finger.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Like this. Index finger is basically just resting on the striker.

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on August 04, 2018, 10:43:07 AM
Just like the pic except i dont run my index finger straight down the shaft. I let my index finger relax and kind of point out off the striker. The striker shaft lays lightly against my index finger just for more control. I change pitch by the amount of pressure applied with my thumb pushing into my middle finger. Basically running the striker with 2 fingers and using my others for more control.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: shatcher on August 04, 2018, 08:04:52 AM
What spitting and drumming said.  Will Primos has an excellent youtube out there on how to do it.  Use your thumb to press the striker against the first knuckle of your middle finger.  The striker will rest behind the last knuckle of your index finger.
Thanks, I will go to find it and seeing it should help, hearing it explained it does not quite make sense to me, but I can be a tad dense. Edit: Here is the video in case anybody else is interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKINsMYv4Sk
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Like this. Index finger is basically just resting on the striker.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180804/e840a4f0fce7233019ad548e0766eee8.jpg)

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Ah okay, very similar to how I was holding it, but trying the way you have pictured seems to offer a bit more control with the striker. Here are three pics of how I have been holding it.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Greg Massey on August 04, 2018, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Like this. Index finger is basically just resting on the striker.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180804/e840a4f0fce7233019ad548e0766eee8.jpg)

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Ah okay, very similar to how I was holding it, but trying the way you have pictured seems to offer a bit more control with the striker. Here are three pics of how I have been holding it.
Are you holding the striker away from you or back to you ?
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 08:04:11 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on August 04, 2018, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Like this. Index finger is basically just resting on the striker.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180804/e840a4f0fce7233019ad548e0766eee8.jpg)

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Ah okay, very similar to how I was holding it, but trying the way you have pictured seems to offer a bit more control with the striker. Here are three pics of how I have been holding it.
Are you holding the striker away from you or back to you ?
I only have the striker angled the way I do in the pic, to best show how it is positioned in my hand.
Typically when I am playing the call the top of the striker is angled away from me.

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on August 04, 2018, 08:58:50 PM
Take the index finger off of it and let it relax. Just use the part in front of the knuckle for it to rest against and curl your middle finger in towards palm. Use the thumb to push shaft into middle finger. The harder you push with thumb , the higher the pitch will get. Takes a little getting use to. Just giving you something else to try. I like this method over the pencil hold. Been using this grip 10 years. Try it and let us know what you think
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 09:07:22 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on August 04, 2018, 07:33:41 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Like this. Index finger is basically just resting on the striker.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180804/e840a4f0fce7233019ad548e0766eee8.jpg)

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Ah okay, very similar to how I was holding it, but trying the way you have pictured seems to offer a bit more control with the striker. Here are three pics of how I have been holding it.
Are you holding the striker away from you or back to you ?
To me (Bottom part with top away) as I call and doing my calls in a counter clockwise motion. Just to be sure I am answering you correctly I have my GF take 3 pics so you can see how I am doing it in case I misunderstood your question.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 09:10:52 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on August 04, 2018, 08:58:50 PM
Take the index finger off of it and let it relax. Just use the part in front of the knuckle for it to rest against and curl your middle finger in towards palm. Use the thumb to push shaft into middle finger. The harder you push with thumb , the higher the pitch will get. Takes a little getting use to. Just giving you something else to try. I like this method over the pencil hold. Been using this grip 10 years. Try it and let us know what you think
It does feel like this is much more control, but as you said it will take some getting used to as now if feels very odd. Thank you for the advise.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 09:27:34 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:24:20 PM
Try a clockwise motion. That way the striker is being pushed into your index and and middle finger, as you draw it across the surface of the call. Maybe easier for you to run it without feeling the need to put your index finger to work.
Sometimes it depends on the style of striker I am using, but if my index finger is on the striker at all. It is just resting on it, and applying zero pressure.


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I will try to tomorrow, getting later in the evening here and the landlord live right underneath me.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:33:30 PM
Wait, you're right handed, so you are running it right by going counter.
Sorry, I'm left handed so my suggestion is wrong for most people. Haha

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 04, 2018, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:33:30 PM
Wait, you're right handed, so you are running it right by going counter.
Sorry, I'm left handed so my suggestion is wrong for most people. Haha

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Yes right handed for everything but shooting pool and fighting.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on August 05, 2018, 10:54:06 AM
Another thing i will add on the way you are holding the pot. It looks like you have it almost sitting in your palm. Extend it upwards and try to hold it gently with your fingers. You can even change the sound by holding it on finger tips , on the lines where yor second digit meets the first digit and even slightly lower always using your palm as the sound chamber. You can add pressure to the sides of the pot to change pitch. I just added this stuff. You probably already know all this but this may be helpful to some.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 05, 2018, 01:48:11 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on August 05, 2018, 10:54:06 AM
Another thing i will add on the way you are holding the pot. It looks like you have it almost sitting in your palm. Extend it upwards and try to hold it gently with your fingers. You can even change the sound by holding it on finger tips , on the lines where yor second digit meets the first digit and even slightly lower always using your palm as the sound chamber. You can add pressure to the sides of the pot to change pitch. I just added this stuff. You probably already know all this but this may be helpful to some.

I will try that for sure. I don't normally hold it quite like that but I was trying to get a little lower with the call so my GF could get the picture as she is shorter than I am. That room had the best light in the house at that time or the picture would have been taken sitting. Thanks again.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: bbcoach on August 05, 2018, 06:32:54 PM
I hold it like a pencil with the index finger down the shaft and the middle finger on the underside of the shaft for support.  Tilt the handle away from my body at about a 10 to 15 degree angle and make elongated circular O's for the yelp.  The cut or cluck is just short quick downward movement with good pressure from my index finger.  And the purr is light pressure in a half circle motion.  My index finger and thumb does most of the motions and the pressure is controlled by the index finger for loud or soft sounds.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: 3bailey3 on August 05, 2018, 06:56:35 PM
Cody calls use to have a video that was very good on showing how to run a pot, from holding it to running it, my index finger only touches the striker at the knuckle and I never put the caller flat in my palm.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 05, 2018, 11:26:32 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on August 05, 2018, 06:32:54 PM
I hold it like a pencil with the index finger down the shaft and the middle finger on the underside of the shaft for support.  Tilt the handle away from my body at about a 10 to 15 degree angle and make elongated circular O's for the yelp.  The cut or cluck is just short quick downward movement with good pressure from my index finger.  And the purr is light pressure in a half circle motion.  My index finger and thumb does most of the motions and the pressure is controlled by the index finger for loud or soft sounds.
That sounds like I have been doing it as well with the exception that my purr is single straight motion maybe slightly diagonal wise with downward motion.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 05, 2018, 11:28:15 PM
Quote from: 3bailey3 on August 05, 2018, 06:56:35 PM
Cody calls use to have a video that was very good on showing how to run a pot, from holding it to running it, my index finger only touches the striker at the knuckle and I never put the caller flat in my palm.
Sounds neat, post it if you can find it please.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 05, 2018, 11:46:00 PM
By the way a question to everyone, does you hand position change if you use different kinds of strikers? By this I mean flared/mushroom tip to straight angle striker to slightly angled to pointed? Picture just because sometimes I don't explain myself well and because I am told I can be confusing so I thought I would show what I mean.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: NCL on August 06, 2018, 08:01:24 AM
I remember that Cody video, I must have watched it 20 times.

Great topic. I have learned a bunch of new things, thanks yo all.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: bbcoach on August 06, 2018, 08:34:13 AM
My hold on the striker doesn't change due to the different bulb on the striker just the angle in which I tilt it.  Personally I like and seem to play the straight tipped strikers better.  Also I have found I sound better with the thicker straight tip striker body (5/16 barrel) as compared to thin bodied (3/16 barrel) strikers.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 06, 2018, 10:44:05 AM
Quote from: NCL on August 06, 2018, 08:01:24 AM
I remember that Cody video, I must have watched it 20 times.

Great topic. I have learned a bunch of new things, thanks yo all.
You're quite welcome.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 06, 2018, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: bbcoach on August 06, 2018, 08:34:13 AM
My hold on the striker doesn't change due to the different bulb on the striker just the angle in which I tilt it.  Personally I like and seem to play the straight tipped strikers better.  Also I have found I sound better with the thicker straight tip striker body (5/16 barrel) as compared to thin bodied (3/16 barrel) strikers.
I also feel better with a thicker striker.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: silvestris on August 06, 2018, 04:18:16 PM
However you hold the striker, it is all in the wrist, all of it.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: bbcoach on August 06, 2018, 04:51:13 PM
Quote from: silvestris on August 06, 2018, 04:18:16 PM
However you hold the striker, it is all in the wrist, all of it.
Maybe I'm the weird one but my wrist hardly moves.  My thumb and index finger make most of my movement.  My thumb and index finger ligament moves but my wrist doesn't move very much at all.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on August 06, 2018, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: silvestris on August 06, 2018, 04:18:16 PM
However you hold the striker, it is all in the wrist, all of it.


I agree to a extent , however striker holds change the sounds as well as pot call holds. Some are subtle but othertimes it can be quiet significant. I do not use my wrist in running the call. My hand stays planted to the call and my hand makes all the movement. If i attempt to put wrist motion in it , it is not consistant and i lose some control due to lifing my hand up off the pot. Thats just my experience.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Bolandstrutters on August 07, 2018, 07:59:43 AM
I messed around with my grip for years before I finally found that consistent sweet spot to hold a striker.  The key is to be repetitive.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 07, 2018, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: silvestris on August 06, 2018, 04:18:16 PM
However you hold the striker, it is all in the wrist, all of it.
I honestly do not use my wrists much at all, maybe a bit of the bottom of the wrist. I broke both my wrists and broke on thumb and dislocated the other back in 88 so I don't have much movement at all in the left but somewhat limited in the right so that may be why.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: misfire on August 07, 2018, 02:14:35 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: misfire on August 03, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
Like a pencil, but with the index finger extended. This allows me to exert pressure with my thumb on the striker which can change the pitch of the call.
Any difference in the way the grain on wooden strikers work?

No difference. Also, to add to your question to spitten and drummin, the index finger is pointed straight out
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 07, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
I don`t know, but personally I haven`t discovered the secret. I cannot make a decent sound with a pot call for love nor money and I know it isn`t the call`s fault. It`s a Crystal Mistress. Watched videos. No luck. Thank the Lord for mouth calls and SS box calls !
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 07, 2018, 04:18:33 PM
Quote from: misfire on August 07, 2018, 02:14:35 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 03, 2018, 05:11:18 PM
Quote from: misfire on August 03, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
Like a pencil, but with the index finger extended. This allows me to exert pressure with my thumb on the striker which can change the pitch of the call.
Any difference in the way the grain on wooden strikers work?

No difference. Also, to add to your question to spitten and drummin, the index finger is pointed straight out
Okay, thanks for answering both.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 07, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 07, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
I don`t know, but personally I haven`t discovered the secret. I cannot make a decent sound with a pot call for love nor money and I know it isn`t the call`s fault. It`s a Crystal Mistress. Watched videos. No luck. Thank the Lord for mouth calls and SS box calls !
This may sound like a stupid question to you, but I have seen this with crystal calls. Did you agitate the surface enough/properly?

When I first got my friend into turkey hunting he went out and bought a Mad Super Crystal like I have and then complained to me on the phone that he could not get it to work, so I drove to his house and had him hand me the call and it turned out he had not agitated/conditioned the surface of the call and was playing it smooth. I got it running pretty good for him.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: bbcoach on August 07, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 07, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 07, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
I don`t know, but personally I haven`t discovered the secret. I cannot make a decent sound with a pot call for love nor money and I know it isn`t the call`s fault. It`s a Crystal Mistress. Watched videos. No luck. Thank the Lord for mouth calls and SS box calls !
This may sound like a stupid question to you, but I have seen this with crystal calls. Did you agitate the surface enough/properly?

When I first got my friend into turkey hunting he went out and bought a Mad Super Crystal like I have and then complained to me on the phone that he could not get it to work, so I drove to his house and had him hand me the call and it turned out he had not agitated/conditioned the surface of the call and was playing it smooth. I got it running pretty good for him.
X2.  Had a friend that had a crystal call and he said he couldn't get a quality sound out of it.  I picked it up used the same striker and nothing.  Got him to give me a piece of rough grit sandpaper, scratched it a few times and it was all turkey.  It is ALL about friction, whether your playing crystal, glass, slate or whatever, a good scratching with scotch brite, sandpaper, drywall screen or stone will bring out the turkey in most calls and make you a MASTER potcall caller.  Make sure your striker tip is roughed up as well.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 07, 2018, 07:26:05 PM
Thanks guys, but unfortunately it's not the conditioning of the call or striker. David had roughed in a spot before he sent me the call and I roughed the end of the strikers a bit. I'm pretty sure it's something I'm doing (or not). Not giving up. Have a good friend who's also my hunting buddy who's pretty good with these things. Good excuse to get away to the camp for some yelping practice, shooting and Makers Mark in the evening!
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: greencop01 on August 07, 2018, 09:10:49 PM
A little Makers Mark may do the trick, if not it will make practice fun !   :funnyturkey:
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 07, 2018, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 07, 2018, 07:26:05 PM
Thanks guys, but unfortunately it's not the conditioning of the call or striker. David had roughed in a spot before he sent me the call and I roughed the end of the strikers a bit. I'm pretty sure it's something I'm doing (or not). Not giving up. Have a good friend who's also my hunting buddy who's pretty good with these things. Good excuse to get away to the camp for some yelping practice, shooting and Makers Mark in the evening!
My guess then would be the angle that you are holding the striker. You may want to look into a flared striker, I have found they are a bit more forgiving. That or you are striking the bottom of the call with the top of the striker and if that is not the case it will be after the Makers Mark.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Bolandstrutters on August 08, 2018, 07:57:52 AM
Quote from: silvestris on August 06, 2018, 04:18:16 PM
However you hold the striker, it is all in the wrist, all of it.

This
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: outdoors on August 08, 2018, 11:38:23 AM
You can hold the striker any way YOU PLAY GOOD , sounding like a turkey
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 08, 2018, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: greencop01 on August 07, 2018, 09:10:49 PM
A little Makers Mark may do the trick, if not it will make practice fun !   :funnyturkey:

Oh yeah  ;D!  It`ll be fun, regardless of what happens with the call, believe me!  On a more serious note, I`ll be real interested to see how my friend`s strikers do as opposed to the ones that came with the call.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Lots better!! It`s the angle of the striker. Improper angle. I`m getting a pretty good yelp and am working on the other basics. Want to get at least decent so I can get something for wet weather, Enticer most likely. About decided the " waterproof " boxes really aren`t so much.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 22, 2018, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Lots better!! It`s the angle of the striker. Improper angle. I`m getting a pretty good yelp and am working on the other basics. Want to get at least decent so I can get something for wet weather, Enticer most likely. About decided the " waterproof " boxes really aren`t so much.
Glad to hear you got it all worked out. I have 2 waterproof strikers I got here and love them. When I got them I said to myself "I wonder if they really work" so I took my crystal pot call and ran water over it under the faucet while playing and it did great. 
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 24, 2018, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 22, 2018, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Lots better!! It`s the angle of the striker. Improper angle. I`m getting a pretty good yelp and am working on the other basics. Want to get at least decent so I can get something for wet weather, Enticer most likely. About decided the " waterproof " boxes really aren`t so much.
Glad to hear you got it all worked out. I have 2 waterproof strikers I got here and love them. When I got them I said to myself "I wonder if they really work" so I took my crystal pot call and ran water over it under the faucet while playing and it did great.

Thank you sir. Funny what practice can do! My Crystal Mistress has gone from something I hardly could get sound out of to a point where it`ll be tough to start out next season with anything else! Purrs still aren`t very good, but I`ve got mouth calls for that so I`m not concerned.

Really do want something that`s good in the wet. Thinking about an Enticer aluminum. Would welcome any suggestions.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 24, 2018, 04:01:50 PM
I had not been able to hunt for 17 years because of a car accident and just got back into it 2 years ago so to be honest I am probably not the best person to be directing you. As I understand it crystals work quite well but me myself if I were to go looking for anything to play in wet weather I would get something plastic or acrylic or something like that that would not be affected like wood would. You might want to start a thread asking about it. I have yet to get aluminum, copper or stainless surfaces, copper interesting me the most of the 3 for some reason.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 24, 2018, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 24, 2018, 04:01:50 PM
I had not been able to hunt for 17 years because of a car accident and just got back into it 2 years ago so to be honest I am probably not the best person to be directing you. As I understand it crystals work quite well but me myself if I were to go looking for anything to play in wet weather I would get something plastic or acrylic or something like that that would not be affected like wood would. You might want to start a thread asking about it. I have yet to get aluminum, copper or stainless surfaces, copper interesting me the most of the 3 for some reason.

Oh yeah, wouldn't get a wooden pot for wet weather. I believe Enticer wet calls are made of composites that can stand water. They sound good in the videos.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Kylongspur88 on August 25, 2018, 10:28:03 PM
In 22 years of turkey hunting I've never thought about this.... I guess like I hold a pen when I write?
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 26, 2018, 01:51:21 AM
Quote from: Kylongspur88 on August 25, 2018, 10:28:03 PM
In 22 years of turkey hunting I've never thought about this.... I guess like I hold a pen when I write?
I hold it the same, but after reading here and watching some video's I am going to try to switch up, or at least add to the way I hold it.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 26, 2018, 01:52:15 AM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 24, 2018, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 24, 2018, 04:01:50 PM
I had not been able to hunt for 17 years because of a car accident and just got back into it 2 years ago so to be honest I am probably not the best person to be directing you. As I understand it crystals work quite well but me myself if I were to go looking for anything to play in wet weather I would get something plastic or acrylic or something like that that would not be affected like wood would. You might want to start a thread asking about it. I have yet to get aluminum, copper or stainless surfaces, copper interesting me the most of the 3 for some reason.

Oh yeah, wouldn't get a wooden pot for wet weather. I believe Enticer wet calls are made of composites that can stand water. They sound good in the videos.
I will have to go watch some videos after I wake up, will be heading to bed soon.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: NCL on August 26, 2018, 09:00:02 AM
I never really paid that much attention to how I held the striker and used to think more about how the pot was held. Since reading this thread and studying the suggestions I have been trying the different suggested ways. Holding the index finger straight does allow the caller more control with the thumb but does take some practice to get used too. 
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: wvmntnhick on August 26, 2018, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Like this. Index finger is basically just resting on the striker.

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 26, 2018, 04:07:09 PM
Quote from: NCL on August 26, 2018, 09:00:02 AM
I never really paid that much attention to how I held the striker and used to think more about how the pot was held. Since reading this thread and studying the suggestions I have been trying the different suggested ways. Holding the index finger straight does allow the caller more control with the thumb but does take some practice to get used too.
I agree completely.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 26, 2018, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Lots better!! It`s the angle of the striker. Improper angle. I`m getting a pretty good yelp and am working on the other basics. Want to get at least decent so I can get something for wet weather, Enticer most likely. About decided the " waterproof " boxes really aren`t so much.


Decided on an Enticer Silver Thunder Extreme Aluminum with a carbon tip striker. Watched Al`s video where he got it wet and it played just fine. Also liked the soft sounds you can get from the back of the call as well. Al was very responsive, good customer service.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 26, 2018, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 26, 2018, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Lots better!! It`s the angle of the striker. Improper angle. I`m getting a pretty good yelp and am working on the other basics. Want to get at least decent so I can get something for wet weather, Enticer most likely. About decided the " waterproof " boxes really aren`t so much.


Decided on an Enticer Silver Thunder Extreme Aluminum with a carbon tip striker. Watched Al`s video where he got it wet and it played just fine. Also liked the soft sounds you can get from the back of the call as well. Al was very responsive, good customer service.
Just came from his website, nice sounding calls. If they are that good in person you will be happy.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Turkeytider on August 26, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 26, 2018, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 26, 2018, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Lots better!! It`s the angle of the striker. Improper angle. I`m getting a pretty good yelp and am working on the other basics. Want to get at least decent so I can get something for wet weather, Enticer most likely. About decided the " waterproof " boxes really aren`t so much.


Decided on an Enticer Silver Thunder Extreme Aluminum with a carbon tip striker. Watched Al`s video where he got it wet and it played just fine. Also liked the soft sounds you can get from the back of the call as well. Al was very responsive, good customer service.
Just came from his website, nice sounding calls. If they are that good in person you will be happy.

Well, also went there due to some posts on here as well as the video.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on August 27, 2018, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 26, 2018, 09:23:11 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on August 26, 2018, 07:43:26 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 26, 2018, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Turkeytider on August 22, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
Lots better!! It`s the angle of the striker. Improper angle. I`m getting a pretty good yelp and am working on the other basics. Want to get at least decent so I can get something for wet weather, Enticer most likely. About decided the " waterproof " boxes really aren`t so much.


Decided on an Enticer Silver Thunder Extreme Aluminum with a carbon tip striker. Watched Al`s video where he got it wet and it played just fine. Also liked the soft sounds you can get from the back of the call as well. Al was very responsive, good customer service.
Just came from his website, nice sounding calls. If they are that good in person you will be happy.

Well, also went there due to some posts on here as well as the video.
If the guys here suggest it then I would give it very serious consideration, they really know their stuff and have helped me immensely.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: vt35mag on August 27, 2018, 03:50:05 PM
Quote from: wvmntnhick on August 26, 2018, 02:32:32 PM
Quote from: vt35mag on August 04, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
Like this. Index finger is basically just resting on the striker.

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Man, why didn't someone tell me before!!! Haha
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 03, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
With the season coming around again in a couple of months and seeing many people posting I thought I would bump this again since it seemed to be so interesting to so many.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: RutnNStrutn on February 03, 2019, 06:17:20 PM
Quote from: misfire on August 03, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
Like a pencil, but with the index finger extended. This allows me to exert pressure with my thumb on the striker which can change the pitch of the call.
This!!!^^^
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on February 03, 2019, 09:02:44 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 03, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
With the season coming around again in a couple of months and seeing many people posting I thought I would bump this again since it seemed to be so interesting to so many.


You stick with the suggestions that we gave you? If so , hows it coming along
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Bowguy on February 03, 2019, 09:21:00 PM
It would be hard I think for many to hold it as they hold a pen. I'm sure there's a modification here. A pen and a striker are held at dif angles. On my hand the thumb is higher than pointer. When I yelp my pointer finger flys loose. Upon purring my hand placement is higher for more vibration in striker. On cutting or clucking the middle finger is used on striker for brakes.
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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Bowguy on February 03, 2019, 09:21:46 PM
Purring a little exaggerated for emphasis


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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Bowguy on February 03, 2019, 09:22:15 PM
Cutting you can see brake


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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 04, 2019, 01:35:09 AM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 03, 2019, 09:02:44 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 03, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
With the season coming around again in a couple of months and seeing many people posting I thought I would bump this again since it seemed to be so interesting to so many.


You stick with the suggestions that we gave you? If so , hows it coming along
Trying hard with the way I keep it against the knuckle, it still feels awkward but that is to be expected with something new and especially with my arthritis and all. I can tell a difference though for sure in how the sound resonates as opposed to holding against the meat of the finger.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 04, 2019, 01:38:12 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 03, 2019, 09:22:15 PM
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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Harty on February 05, 2019, 04:51:57 PM
 Interesting and educational thread. I basically hold it as recommended here. Some nice tips on striker pressure etc,but I'm not going to overthink it . Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Spitten and drummen on February 05, 2019, 08:48:49 PM
Its amazing how a little change goes a long way. It took several years to prefect my hold. Bottom line is its more to just making ovals on the surface for yelping for instance. You get a feel for adding and subtracting striker pressure during the sequence of the yelp and it goes from being a nice adequate yelp to a great yelp. Seems to help put more emotion into the call.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: compton30 on February 06, 2019, 04:33:05 AM
I do exactly what Halloran does in this video, except I keep my index finger pointed out when yelping, which you can see Halloran's wife doing at the end of the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocG1P6UKSV0
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Treerooster on February 06, 2019, 07:35:08 PM
Quote from: compton30 on February 06, 2019, 04:33:05 AM
I do exactly what Halloran does in this video, except I keep my index finger pointed out when yelping, which you can see Halloran's wife doing at the end of the video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocG1P6UKSV0

Thats how I hold mine...I think.

I learned from a video by Bill Zearing from Cody Calls. He taught to have the striker rest on the knuckles of the middle finger and held in place by the knuckle of the thumb. For some reason he said that was important...not sure how important it is, but that is how I hold a striker and I can't do it differently now LOL.

I also keep my index finger off the striker for yelping and put it on the striker for purrs & clucks. If I am going to do a lot of purring & clucking I move up on the striker as Halloran does in the vid.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: SoIncallcollector on February 06, 2019, 08:31:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 03, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
With the season coming around again in a couple of months and seeing many people posting I thought I would bump this again since it seemed to be so interesting to so many.
This is a great thread. Tons of good info from alot of people way smarter about using a striker than me! I'd be interested like you were in the original post to hear about striker grain pattern and how it plays a role. Thanks for any feedback.

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: SCGobbler on February 06, 2019, 08:33:34 PM
I am switching things up this year and this seems to be working well for me.

https://youtu.be/jCpnXkgf6xY?t=40
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 06, 2019, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: SoIncallcollector on February 06, 2019, 08:31:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 03, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
With the season coming around again in a couple of months and seeing many people posting I thought I would bump this again since it seemed to be so interesting to so many.
This is a great thread. Tons of good info from alot of people way smarter about using a striker than me! I'd be interested like you were in the original post to hear about striker grain pattern and how it plays a role. Thanks for any feedback.

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When I am using a striker that I can see the grain on I find that they sound better against the grain. Like if grain is up and down as you hold it go side to side, not up and down.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: SoIncallcollector on February 06, 2019, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 06, 2019, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: SoIncallcollector on February 06, 2019, 08:31:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 03, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
With the season coming around again in a couple of months and seeing many people posting I thought I would bump this again since it seemed to be so interesting to so many.
This is a great thread. Tons of good info from alot of people way smarter about using a striker than me! I'd be interested like you were in the original post to hear about striker grain pattern and how it plays a role. Thanks for any feedback.

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When I am using a striker that I can see the grain on I find that they sound better against the grain. Like if grain is up and down as you hold it go side to side, not up and down.
I've been messing around with it lately and trying to be more consistent with holding the striker the same every time with grain pattern the same. You dont hear alot of people talk about that part so I appreciate the response and I'll be working on that. I'm glad you asked that question. I've never thought of it and how it could effect the sound. Thanks.

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 06, 2019, 10:06:33 PM
Quote from: SoIncallcollector on February 06, 2019, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 06, 2019, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: SoIncallcollector on February 06, 2019, 08:31:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 03, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
With the season coming around again in a couple of months and seeing many people posting I thought I would bump this again since it seemed to be so interesting to so many.
This is a great thread. Tons of good info from alot of people way smarter about using a striker than me! I'd be interested like you were in the original post to hear about striker grain pattern and how it plays a role. Thanks for any feedback.

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When I am using a striker that I can see the grain on I find that they sound better against the grain. Like if grain is up and down as you hold it go side to side, not up and down.
I've been messing around with it lately and trying to be more consistent with holding the striker the same every time with grain pattern the same. You dont hear alot of people talk about that part so I appreciate the response and I'll be working on that. I'm glad you asked that question. I've never thought of it and how it could effect the sound. Thanks.

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You're welcome, ask anybody that knows me will tell you, I think weird anyway.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: SoIncallcollector on February 07, 2019, 09:55:02 AM
Hey if thinking about striker grain patterns is weird then I dont wanna be normal

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: silvestris on February 07, 2019, 11:51:19 AM
Go to http://turkeycallers.com/products and look at the videos.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: fallhnt on February 07, 2019, 01:25:54 PM
....like a BOSS

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Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 07, 2019, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: silvestris on February 07, 2019, 11:51:19 AM
Go to http://turkeycallers.com/products and look at the videos.
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 07, 2019, 06:10:14 PM
Quote from: silvestris on February 07, 2019, 11:51:19 AM
Go to http://turkeycallers.com/products and look at the videos.
Well I just came from watching the videos but have to say he does not cover pot calls or grip at all as applied to pot calls anyway.

It is however helpful to me with the Grizz Friction Wood Call as the one he uses seems to be much the same.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: silvestris on February 08, 2019, 12:46:18 AM
What's a pot caller?
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 08, 2019, 04:44:47 PM
Quote from: silvestris on February 08, 2019, 12:46:18 AM
What's a pot caller?
Why it's what called the kettle blacker silly! lol Pot call.
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: bigbird on February 11, 2019, 10:31:27 AM
Has anyone said with their feet yet  ;D
Title: Re: How do you hold your striker?
Post by: Sir-diealot on February 11, 2019, 10:38:47 AM
Quote from: bigbird on February 11, 2019, 10:31:27 AM
Has anyone said with their feet yet  ;D
No, and that surprises me!