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I can honestly say I have never knowingly crossed a property line to kill a bird nor would I, BUT I will set up 40 yards from that line and call my heart out.

Quote from: Kylongspur88 on February 11, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
I can honestly say I have never knowingly crossed a property line to kill a bird nor would I, BUT I will set up 40 yards from that line and call my heart out.

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A bird I shot in OK last spring did a crazy backflip when I shot him and landed about 8-10 feet on the other side of a barbed wire fence dividing the property we were huning and the next property.  There were no posted signs and the fence wire allowed easy access to step over the fence without any damage.  The property owner we were hunting on had good relations with the surrounding property owners and was with us at the time.  Given all of those qualifiers, I didn't have a problem stepping over and walking 10 feet on the other property to retreive a dead bird.  
On the other hand, I have hunted a property where the neighbors made it clear that NOBODY was to hunt their property, no tresspassing signs clearly displayed.  Even though the birds were roosted on that property, there was no consideration of crossing the fence to get to them.  Posted is posted.  We just called them across the road into the property we were hunting and put the hevi shot to them.  ;)

I would not knowingly hunt someone elses land, nor I want anybody invading my territory without the proper O.K.'s. It is not correct to assume that it is alright to hunt someone's land, without the proper permission. It is just wrong..Mike

if i'm working a bird and he has slobber flying and the land is not posted. truthfully i dont think i would. there would have to be certain conditions. the biggest would be that it was not hunted by another turkey hunter

But if i get to the line and it is posted i would setup as close as i could without crossing it

I guess I would if have permission and know the person very well, which in most cases I do.  Now if he question said "trespass" I would say never.

In most cases I'd go thru a fence to recover game I shot.  Wouldn't take a gun and I'd try to get an OK first but I'd go in some circumstances and take my chances.

Somebody once said "You can often tell if someone is a good turkey hunter by whether or not the knees are worn-out on their camo pants and how badly their inseam is ripped from crossing barbed wire fences."   ::)

Here are some true quotes from different client's I've guided over the years - trying to convince me to cross when we were standing at the property line, listening to hammer-heads on the wrong side of the fence:

"I'll be honest, I'd go after him if I was at home"
"they're all God's turkeys..."
"we've got shotguns, what are they gonna do to us?"
"I'll go to jail with you..."

Turkey hunters, you gotta love 'em   :lol:

Actually think all of these guys ended up killing, even though we didn't get to go after the ones they wanted. 

Only to retrieve a downed animal.

Not going to happen no matter what, if I know the owner doesn't want someone on the property. 

Quote from: hookedspur on February 11, 2011, 06:17:22 PM
Only to retrieve a downed animal.

Only time I have knowingly, but they absolutely do not mark private from public in a lot of land I hunt in Kansas. There are times I have no idea, and am guessing.

Quote from: Kylongspur88 on February 11, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
I can honestly say I have never knowingly crossed a property line to kill a bird nor would I, BUT I will set up 40 yards from that line and call my heart out.

:agreed:

only if the conditions were right but no not as a rule

Quote from: gob09 on February 11, 2011, 07:01:56 PM
only if the conditions were right but no not as a rule

Now Wes,,,, :TooFunny:

When I was younger... heck yeah... now that I'm older I don't run quite as fast...

I have called them off posted land before  ;D, but have never
treaspased.

In one area I have permission on 4 farms that that are almost in a row. So yes I cross the propery lines all the time to hunt turkeys.  ;)

I crossed the property line on the farm I hunt but there was a reason.
I shot a bird on the side of a hill (I was on the farm I have permission to hunt, and the bird was on the same farm that I was on). It rolled down the hill and onto the other farm. I crossed onto the other farm got the bird and got back onto the farm I was hunting.

I would never knowingly cross a property line to hunt Turkeys, I have crossed property lines to get from one public area to another.
In MN if you shoot a wildgame animal and it crosses a property line you can legally go and retrive the animal unless the land owner tells you not to.  Then you have to go get the sheriff and he will get you permission to retrive the game animal.
In my Opinion the moment you cross the property line with out permission your bird (deer etc.) is illegal and you have broken the law.

Yes............ If I had permission! :z-guntootsmiley:

Quote from: Singlebarrel on February 11, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
Somebody once said "You can often tell if someone is a good turkey hunter by whether or not the knees are worn-out on their camo pants and how badly their inseam is ripped from crossing barbed wire fences."   ::)

Here are some true quotes from different client's I've guided over the years - trying to convince me to cross when we were standing at the property line, listening to hammer-heads on the wrong side of the fence:

"I'll be honest, I'd go after him if I was at home"
"they're all God's turkeys..."
"we've got shotguns, what are they gonna do to us?"
"I'll go to jail with you..."

Turkey hunters, you gotta love 'em   :lol:

Actually think all of these guys ended up killing, even though we didn't get to go after the ones they wanted. 

You mean like my pair of pants  :z-guntootsmiley:

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nate121080/Pants.jpg)

Nope, not without permission.  But I will set up 40 yards off a line and if he comes 5 yards on my side he is mine.  Been there done that.  If he doesn't then I haven't called him and he walks.  I will catch him on my side another morning.

I would only to get the bird or game i killed, than I would walk to the door and tell them what i did and why. If they're still upset I'd say sorry but I'm not here just to kill, Im here to kill and eat. Not to waste anything. And I would offer some of the harvest to them.

OML, honestly,.....just depends.   

HC

I chose the last option  :angel9:

I have not and will not cross the property line to turkey hunt. I don't want anyone crossing my line either...I will try to call him across the line if I can!!!

I have before and probably will again
But it's not hunted and not marked

Quote from: Shotgun on February 11, 2011, 10:42:17 PM
I chose the last option  :angel9:

Hahaha!!!

I think the medical term is line blindness.

Well, my c.b. handle is "the surveyor" ....????? :toothy12:

To the 76% or so of you who answered in one form or another that you would cross the line(i counted plead the 5ths in that figure)....thank you for your honesty, for the ones who read the thread but didn't post.....your silence speaks volumes...thank you too for your honesty, for those of you who said never...............

They are all God's turkeys after all   ;D

Quote from: Hardcore on February 11, 2011, 10:39:06 PM
OML, honestly,.....just depends.   

HC

I know my friend would and does. . . .I don't want to be 'that guy' though.

Never     - 17 (25.4%)
Under Certain Conditions    - 22 (32.8%)   
Yes I would    - 8 (11.9%)
I plead the 5th    - 20 (29.9%)
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32.8  Certain conditions ( Turkey Gobbling and you haven't heard one in a week )
11.9  Yes I would
29.9  I plead the 5th
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73.6% of the OldGobbler folks are honorable people !

In NH, you don't need to worry about crossing property lines unless there is a clearly posted sign indicating you can't.
I have crossed many different boundry markers, never knowing whos land I was actually on.
Now, like one OP said, if it meant trespass, never. I'll go find another bird.

Quote from: OldMarine on February 12, 2011, 01:13:49 AM
Never     - 17 (25.4%)
Under Certain Conditions    - 22 (32.8%)   
Yes I would    - 8 (11.9%)
I plead the 5th    - 20 (29.9%)
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32.8  Certain conditions ( Turkey Gobbling and you haven't heard one in a week )
11.9  Yes I would
29.9  I plead the 5th
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73.6% of the OldGobbler folks are honorable people !

It took me a second to get the gist of your equation---an excellent deduction.

I always thought there was a 40 yard or so buffer. . . . . .  ::)

I told those Hevi13's as they were leaving," I cant really tell which side of the line he's on so if you get to the property line stop. Dont go any farther." They're terrible listeners. .  . . .  :smiley-char092:

If the land was clearly posted, not likely. But, if the land was not posted and I knew no one else hunted it I probably would.

In the area of NY the lands I have permission to hunt on often have property next door that is vacant. There is a lot of land ownership by investors and other types of speculators. Many times the land is not posted. In NY if land is not posted by the actual owner it is not against the law to hunt on it. Obviously common sense should be used.

Maine is just one big state, no property lines... :you_rock:

Just kidding, there's enough "non-posted" land to even consider trepassing.  If it's not posted...it's huntable  :z-loveshower:

Only to retrieve a wounded animal.  I've done that one time and would do it again.

But I would never hunt someone's property without permission - too much respect for property rights since I'm a capitalist.

Last year I had hunted hard several days in the rain to have a gobbler gobbling all day long each day on the other side of this creek walking around in an open field.  I wanted that map to extend past the creek so bad.  Bird never would cross the creek.  I called the landowner and it was in a trust that didn't allow hunting which was frustrating.  I was half tempted to offer to buy the land as it sat unused.

The same piece of land has a property line in the middle of the woods that isn't marked and I can't for the life of me figure where the land ends.  I was tempted to buy a gps and try to get coordinates for the land so I could have some marker to go to, but for now I just play it safe.

yes....its just my outlaw nature... ;D

There are so many variables to this question that it is hard to provide a single yes/no answer. 

I will never cross a boundary line if it is posted properly, nor will I shoot at game that might be along the edge of that property.  On the other hand, I expect landowners that want people to stay off of their property to make the effort to delineate their property boundaries and put proper signage up, especially when the property is way out in the middle of nowhere and there are no improvements on it or any indication that the owners have a reason to keep people off. 

I hunt areas that are a mixture of public and private lands and on numerous occasions, I have had private landowners try to run me off of public property adjacent to their lands.  Almost always, this has been a case of them not marking their property boundaries so that they could try to claim I was on their property when I knew I was not.

I have even had to go so far as to call the authorities to get them to address the problem for me.   

The point here is that this topic is a double-edged sword.  Hunters and landowners have personal responsibilities regarding trespass.  If a landowner wants me to stay off of his land, he darn sure better make the effort to let me know where the boundaries are and that he doesn't want me there.  If he does that, I will respectfully stay off of it.

In the states I hunt you must have permission to hunt someone's property. I gain permission before I go over the property line. Some county's you have to have written permission to hunt. I like to get written permission for ever place I hunt. That just makes it easer when confronting trepessers. Has for get game from someone else land I would get permission. If it is not given I call the game warden. They can get me the permission I need. I have call turkey over to my side of the woods before. Lucky I have not had them flop back to the others side. But if I ever do I will still get permission to get the bird. Most folks around where I hunt know me and will give me persimmion to get downed game on there land but no hunting allowed. Get permission first is the best thing in my mind.

Quote from: Singlebarrel on February 11, 2011, 06:16:57 PM
Somebody once said "You can often tell if someone is a good turkey hunter by whether or not the knees are worn-out on their camo pants and how badly their inseam is ripped from crossing barbed wire fences."   ::)

I got about a 8 inch scar down my left leg from crossing a fence. People get bit messing with fences.

I gave an answer in the poll but some things just ain't open for discussion :emoticon-cartoon-012:

Quote from: GobbleNut on February 14, 2011, 12:22:14 PM
There are so many variables to this question that it is hard to provide a single yes/no answer. 

I will never cross a boundary line if it is posted properly, nor will I shoot at game that might be along the edge of that property.  On the other hand, I expect landowners that want people to stay off of their property to make the effort to delineate their property boundaries and put proper signage up, especially when the property is way out in the middle of nowhere and there are no improvements on it or any indication that the owners have a reason to keep people off. 

I hunt areas that are a mixture of public and private lands and on numerous occasions, I have had private landowners try to run me off of public property adjacent to their lands.  Almost always, this has been a case of them not marking their property boundaries so that they could try to claim I was on their property when I knew I was not.

I have even had to go so far as to call the authorities to get them to address the problem for me.   

The point here is that this topic is a double-edged sword.  Hunters and landowners have personal responsibilities regarding trespass.  If a landowner wants me to stay off of his land, he darn sure better make the effort to let me know where the boundaries are and that he doesn't want me there.  If he does that, I will respectfully stay off of it.

Well said Gobblenet...

I've thought a little about this over the past few days.  If someone said "No you cant hunt" I wouldn't cross their line.  That's why I voted that it depends on the situation.  Some guys are diehard....I will not cross that line...I'm not.  Just depends. 
I can say this...if I shot a bird on my property and it flopped to a do not hunt my property landowner...I'm goin to get my bird. 

I voted "Under Certain Circumstances"

The reason being is I have a property that butts up to a club that I know the members of very well. I'm not in the club and I never start off on that property, but if a bird is gobbling over there it is not a problem for me to go over there and hunt him. Other than that I'm not crossing any property lines except to retrieve dead game

Quote from: Basser69 on February 11, 2011, 04:49:29 PM

Quote from: Kylongspur88 on February 11, 2011, 04:48:39 PM
I can honestly say I have never knowingly crossed a property line to kill a bird nor would I, BUT I will set up 40 yards from that line and call my heart out.

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Quote from: GobbleNut on February 14, 2011, 12:22:14 PM
 

I hunt areas that are a mixture of public and private lands and on numerous occasions, I have had private landowners try to run me off of public property adjacent to their lands.  Almost always, this has been a case of them not marking their property boundaries so that they could try to claim I was on their property when I knew I was not.

That's a big problem around my area, give a landowner 50 acres and they think they own the face of the earth.  They know their lines but want all the game for themselves.  It's a greedy world.

I hunt next to a guy who is vehemently opposed to hunting.  I love getting them to cross the fence and stand in front of my 870 :you_rock: