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Title: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Tcagle on February 21, 2018, 06:36:58 PM
Sxp longbeard with federal tss #9's 3 1/2 ic.665 choke at 40 yards

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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Tcagle on February 21, 2018, 06:37:36 PM
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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Greg Massey on February 21, 2018, 06:49:34 PM
Nice, that will kill....
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 06:39:21 AM
They is 326 is the circle at 40yards if I were a 10in circle just a lil lower I believe it would be 350 or higher

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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Gobspur on February 22, 2018, 08:46:29 AM
Looks like a good pattern and definitely a dead bird!  Guess I'm a little surprised though, I figured the .665 constriction would be a little tighter at 40 yds, based on what others have said in threads about using a more open choke for TSS.  Regardless, you got a hunting setup there!
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: KentuckyLB on February 22, 2018, 08:49:23 AM
The pattern looks as if it could be choked more if you wanted a hotter core for sure.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: kwild835 on February 22, 2018, 08:52:20 AM
I wouldn't touch that!  Amazing pattern off the shelf.
Title: Federal tss pattern
Post by: davisd9 on February 22, 2018, 08:55:50 AM
Quote from: kwild835 on February 22, 2018, 08:52:20 AM
I wouldn't touch that!  Amazing pattern off the shelf.

X2! He dead! Much cheaper than many of the other offerings of TSS


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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: Gobspur on February 22, 2018, 08:46:29 AM
Looks like a good pattern and definitely a dead bird!  Guess I'm a little surprised though, I figured the .665 constriction would be a little tighter at 40 yds, based on what others have said in threads about using a more open choke for TSS.  Regardless, you got a hunting setup there!
Tell ya the truth I wish it was tighter for sure

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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: davisd9 on February 22, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: Gobspur on February 22, 2018, 08:46:29 AM
Looks like a good pattern and definitely a dead bird!  Guess I'm a little surprised though, I figured the .665 constriction would be a little tighter at 40 yds, based on what others have said in threads about using a more open choke for TSS.  Regardless, you got a hunting setup there!
Tell ya the truth I wish it was tighter for sure

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Why?
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 09:37:14 AM
Quote from: davisd9 on February 22, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: Gobspur on February 22, 2018, 08:46:29 AM
Looks like a good pattern and definitely a dead bird!  Guess I'm a little surprised though, I figured the .665 constriction would be a little tighter at 40 yds, based on what others have said in threads about using a more open choke for TSS.  Regardless, you got a hunting setup there!
Tell ya the truth I wish it was tighter for sure

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Why?
Just feel like it should be better

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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: davisd9 on February 22, 2018, 09:38:40 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 09:37:14 AM
Quote from: davisd9 on February 22, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 09:01:27 AM
Quote from: Gobspur on February 22, 2018, 08:46:29 AM
Looks like a good pattern and definitely a dead bird!  Guess I'm a little surprised though, I figured the .665 constriction would be a little tighter at 40 yds, based on what others have said in threads about using a more open choke for TSS.  Regardless, you got a hunting setup there!
Tell ya the truth I wish it was tighter for sure

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Why?
Just feel like it should be better

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Nope, you are good to go. Dump a bunch of money on chokes and it might improve some, or it may not.

I would hunt it just like that


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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: trkehunr93 on February 22, 2018, 09:45:25 AM
At around $8 a shell I would be content with that pattern.  As long as you do what your suppose to do, no gobbler's walking away from that.  My  :z-twocents:
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Gobble! on February 22, 2018, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 06:39:21 AM
They is 326 is the circle at 40yards if I were a 10in circle just a lil lower I believe it would be 350 or higher

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To get a true count in the 10" circle you would need to draw it around the densest part of the pattern then adjust your sights accordingly. 
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: BandedSpur on February 22, 2018, 01:00:48 PM
Uh-oh. Somebody's going to have a stroke.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: surehuntsalot on February 22, 2018, 04:19:19 PM
good to go
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: g8rvet on February 22, 2018, 04:42:19 PM
If you want to chase numbers and enjoy shooting your gun, you could probably do some tweaking.

If ya just wanna kill a turkey stone dead, you are good to go. 
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: bbcoach on February 22, 2018, 06:13:44 PM
That is a dead bird for sure with 3 1/2 TSS 9's.  326 with a 3 1/2" TSS 9's does seem to be low.  I can get 300 plus with 3 1/2" Hevi-13 7's.  With 9's, I figured the pellet count would be significently higher.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: fountain2 on February 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Nope, because of the physical weight of the shot.  9s weigh more, therefore they may equal the same amount of hevi 7s. 

Are you able to count up all hits on that?  I'd be curious to know the total hits to see what it totals to.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Gobble! on February 22, 2018, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: fountain2 on February 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Nope, because of the physical weight of the shot.  9s weigh more, therefore they may equal the same amount of hevi 7s. 

Are you able to count up all hits on that?  I'd be curious to know the total hits to see what it totals to.

360 TSS #9s per oz
280 HeviShot #7s per oz

He has roughly 810 pellets in that 2.25oz load. Would be interesting to know his count in be densest part of his pattern.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 10:44:08 PM
Highest I could come up with was 327 in a 10in circle... I just ordered a jebs .655 choke I know I'm just chasing numbers now.

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Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: bbcoach on February 23, 2018, 07:06:53 AM
 :christmaswindow: :christmaswindow:
Quote from: Gobble! on February 22, 2018, 10:26:25 PM
Quote from: fountain2 on February 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM
Nope, because of the physical weight of the shot.  9s weigh more, therefore they may equal the same amount of hevi 7s. 

Are you able to count up all hits on that?  I'd be curious to know the total hits to see what it totals to.

360 TSS #9s per oz
280 HeviShot #7s per oz

He has roughly 810 pellets in that 2.25oz load. Would be interesting to know his count in be densest part of his pattern.
810 vs 630 = 180 more pellets.  Should definitely be more pellets on target.  I would think 400 or a little better.  I would love to see this pattern on a 30 x 30 target.  I would hope most of the 810 pellets would be in the 20" circle.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: joker on February 23, 2018, 09:11:40 AM
If you are not getting 400+ in the 10" with 2.25oz of TSS#9 you are not getting what you are paying for. I would be getting a new choke if it were me. Don't get me wrong, that is still a good pattern. It would work great for someone that closes his eyes when he shoots. Some people like a 30" hunting pattern.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: davisd9 on February 23, 2018, 09:14:09 AM
Shoot one bird with it and you will see why chasing better numbers than that is a waste of time and money.  Good luck.
Title: Federal tss pattern
Post by: kwild835 on February 23, 2018, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 10:44:08 PM
Highest I could come up with was 327 in a 10in circle... I just ordered a jebs .655 choke I know I'm just chasing numbers now.

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Just to help you be confused.  A invector plus gun probably isn't going to like a .655 with TSS.  I would open it up and go with a .680 Carlson's or larger choke.   I have a couple chokes you could try if interested.
This was shot with my 24" barrel Browning Gold with 2.25 350 Count TSS 9's
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180223/9d3da0226e723f11b70e0861596dbcee.jpg)
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: TauntoHawk on February 23, 2018, 10:31:52 AM
what I like is that to get decent density in 10 you can still have a great 20" pattern.. to me thats the huge advantage not that you can get 300+ in the 10 but you can get another 300+ in the 20 ring.. Remove the chasing paper numbers from the site here in the woods you want as large of a margin of error while having a devastating density.

I have never turned 10 numbers with any shell worth bragging about on here but a solid 15-20" pattern that allows me to go 100% on turkeys in real life scenarios is far more important.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: davisd9 on February 23, 2018, 10:34:56 AM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on February 23, 2018, 10:31:52 AM
what I like is that to get decent density in 10 you can still have a great 20" pattern.. to me thats the huge advantage not that you can get 300+ in the 10 but you can get another 300+ in the 20 ring.. Remove the chasing paper numbers from the site here in the woods you want as large of a margin of error while having a devastating density.

I have never turned 10 numbers with any shell worth bragging about on here but a solid 15-20" pattern that allows me to go 100% on turkeys in real life scenarios is far more important.

Great post!
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: davisd9 on February 23, 2018, 10:35:23 AM
Quote from: kwild835 on February 23, 2018, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 10:44:08 PM
Highest I could come up with was 327 in a 10in circle... I just ordered a jebs .655 choke I know I'm just chasing numbers now.

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Just to help you be confused.  A invector plus gun probably isn't going to like a .655 with TSS.  I would open it up and go with a .680 Carlson's or larger choke.   I have a couple chokes you could try if interested.
This was shot with my 24" barrel Browning Gold with 2.25 350 Count TSS 9's
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180223/9d3da0226e723f11b70e0861596dbcee.jpg)

I think that pattern was in my dream the other night.
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 23, 2018, 11:54:29 AM
Quote from: kwild835 on February 23, 2018, 09:49:48 AM
Quote from: Tcagle on February 22, 2018, 10:44:08 PM
Highest I could come up with was 327 in a 10in circle... I just ordered a jebs .655 choke I know I'm just chasing numbers now.

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Just to help you be confused.  A invector plus gun probably isn't going to like a .655 with TSS.  I would open it up and go with a .680 Carlson's or larger choke.   I have a couple chokes you could try if interested.
This was shot with my 24" barrel Browning Gold with 2.25 350 Count TSS 9's
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180223/9d3da0226e723f11b70e0861596dbcee.jpg)
With what choke??
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: kwild835 on February 23, 2018, 11:55:54 AM
.680 Carlson's
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: g8rvet on February 23, 2018, 02:53:40 PM

QuoteI think that pattern was in my dream the other night.


Mine too.  And the shells cost $5 for 10 of them. Dream big or wake up! :TooFunny: :blob10:
Title: Re: Federal tss pattern
Post by: Gobspur on February 23, 2018, 04:33:19 PM
OP in my opinion and very limited knowledge of TSS, I think with that heavy load and .665 choke it may be blowing the pattern some.  You might try opening it up some as others have said, rather than trying a tighter choke.