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Title: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: BDeal on February 02, 2018, 03:25:08 PM
Curious as to what solvents and methods people are using to clean their turkey chokes?

Thank You
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Greg Massey on February 02, 2018, 03:42:29 PM
Just regular gun oil and a rag...
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: nyhunter on February 02, 2018, 03:47:44 PM
denatured alcohol, and a bronze brush screwed onto a short piece of old old cleaning rod.   I remove the choke and scrub it really good, run a few dry patches down it and let it set until it's totally dry .  Beware tho holding the choke in your hand like I do your gonna get a little messy,   prolly not a good idea to wear your best suit and tie  ;D
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: bbcoach on February 02, 2018, 03:58:22 PM
Brake cleaner and old tooth brush.  The brake cleaner will brake down the plastic fouling and remove any excessive choke tube grease.  Just scrub with the tooth brush, rinse and apply a small amount of tube grease and reinsert.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: taylorjones20 on February 02, 2018, 04:59:42 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on February 02, 2018, 03:58:22 PM
Brake cleaner and old tooth brush.  The brake cleaner will brake down the plastic fouling and remove any excessive choke tube grease.  Just scrub with the tooth brush, rinse and apply a small amount of tube grease and reinsert.

X2 or butches bore shine. It's powerful stuff...
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on February 02, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
I use Butchs and a brass brush...Then run patches through. Once it's clean then I spray a little rem oil on a couple patches and run them through. Then a dry patch because all i want is a light film of oil so it doesnt rust. Just the way i do it. Others might have a better way...Like others said it's messy.. I do it over the garbage can when I'm cleaning the gun or guns then the garbage goes out or my wife ain't happy when she gets home....
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Greg Massey on February 02, 2018, 06:31:31 PM
Okay , guys i'm never to old to learn and i have order a bottle of Butch bore shine ... yes i like the idea of still oiling the chokes and barrel after cleaning with Butch's ...thanks guy's for the information ...
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: bbcoach on February 02, 2018, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on February 02, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
I use Butchs and a brass brush...Then run patches through. Once it's clean then I spray a little rem oil on a couple patches and run them through. Then a dry patch because all i want is a light film of oil so it doesnt rust. Just the way i do it. Others might have a better way...Like others said it's messy.. I do it over the garbage can when I'm cleaning the gun or guns then the garbage goes out or my wife ain't happy when she gets home....
Not sure why we want oil on our chokes.  Most are made from 17-7PH Stainless Steel, heat treated to 160-180KSI, which shouldn't rust.  A little choke lube on the threads to keep the threads from binding in the barrel and keep moisture out of the threads should be sufficient.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Greg Massey on February 02, 2018, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on February 02, 2018, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on February 02, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
I use Butchs and a brass brush...Then run patches through. Once it's clean then I spray a little rem oil on a couple patches and run them through. Then a dry patch because all i want is a light film of oil so it doesnt rust. Just the way i do it. Others might have a better way...Like others said it's messy.. I do it over the garbage can when I'm cleaning the gun or guns then the garbage goes out or my wife ain't happy when she gets home....
Not sure why we want oil on our chokes.  Most are made from 17-7PH Stainless Steel, heat treated to 160-180KSI, which shouldn't rust.  A little choke lube on the threads to keep the threads from binding in the barrel and keep moisture out of the threads should be sufficient.
It's just something all of us older hunter have done with oiling the chokes. Regardless it doesn't hurt..
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: redjones on February 02, 2018, 07:28:35 PM
Ok,everybody list their go too method for cleaning choke's,and by all means use whatever method sounds the best to you.
Then find a bottle of this https://goofoffproducts.com and after you have cleaned your choke the way you like,take and pour some goof off in a bowl,glass,etc., a small mason jar is what I use because I can reseal it after the choke is clean and it makes it easier to swirl around and see all the junk that comes off.
Make sure the choke is covered with liquid,let it sit overnight,no scrubbing,rubbing or wire brushing required,I swirl the jar a time or two after it has sat for a few hours.
Let it sit overnight and then see how much more gunk and gook comes off your choke, especially if your choke has stops and lines in it.

      Greg

Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Greg Massey on February 02, 2018, 07:35:58 PM
Quote from: redjones on February 02, 2018, 07:28:35 PM
Ok,everybody list their go too method for cleaning choke's,and by all means use whatever method sounds the best to you.
Then find a bottle of this https://goofoffproducts.com and after you have cleaned your choke the way you like,take and pour some goof off in a bowl,glass,etc., a small mason jar is what I use because I can reseal it after the choke is clean and it makes it easier to swirl around and see all the junk that comes off.
Make sure the choke is covered with liquid,let it sit overnight,no scrubbing,rubbing or wire brushing required,I swirl the jar a time or two after it has sat for a few hours.
Let it sit overnight and then see how much more gunk and gook comes off your choke, especially if your choke has stops and lines in it.

      Greg
Thanks for information
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on February 02, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
Quote from: bbcoach on February 02, 2018, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on February 02, 2018, 05:27:16 PM
I use Butchs and a brass brush...Then run patches through. Once it's clean then I spray a little rem oil on a couple patches and run them through. Then a dry patch because all i want is a light film of oil so it doesnt rust. Just the way i do it. Others might have a better way...Like others said it's messy.. I do it over the garbage can when I'm cleaning the gun or guns then the garbage goes out or my wife ain't happy when she gets home....
Not sure why we want oil on our chokes.  Most are made from 17-7PH Stainless Steel, heat treated to 160-180KSI, which shouldn't rust.  A little choke lube on the threads to keep the threads from binding in the barrel and keep moisture out of the threads should be sufficient.
I've seen all kinds of different metals that aren't suppose to rust that have. I'll keep doing what I'm doing I sleep better... :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Yoder409 on February 02, 2018, 08:55:23 PM
A buddy of mine who is a major choke tube manufacturer got me started on Slip 2000.

Good stuff
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Gobble! on February 03, 2018, 01:15:29 AM
Hoppes and a brass brush to loosen everything followed by dry pads to clean it out
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Greg Massey on February 03, 2018, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: Gobble! on February 03, 2018, 01:15:29 AM
Hoppes and a brass brush to loosen everything followed by dry pads to clean it out
From what i understand and have been told if you use the right stuff , you don't need that brass brush at all...if you need a brush, just used a old tooth brush...
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: tnanh on February 03, 2018, 01:22:53 PM
Some people on this site say that gun oil or even Hoppes in the barrel will ruin patterns. They recommend using denatured alcohol only or swab with it after done cleaning. Would this apply to the choke also or just the barrel? or does it not have an effect on patterns as some people say.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Fl strutter on February 03, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
With butches bore shine u don't need a brush. It will remove everything including plastic which is what hurts patterns most.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: taylorjones20 on February 03, 2018, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: Fl strutter on February 03, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
With butches bore shine u don't need a brush. It will remove everything including plastic which is what hurts patterns most.

Yep and I put my whole bottle of butches bore shine in a mason jar and stick the tube in there and let it soak
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: mtns2hunt on February 03, 2018, 09:49:47 PM
I keep hearing about all the plastic in barrels and chokes. But I have never seen any. Fowling sure but it goes away with a good cleaning. I even looked at my choke under a microscope and did not see any plastic: its  possible it was mixed into the powder fowling? Tried deep cleaning once and noticed no real difference in patterns. My bore is always super shinny and I have been shooting it for decades.

As for chokes I use gun oil (I'm not particular, even used motor oil before). and a rag and it does not effect patterns at all. I'm just totally puzzled by all the different theories on cleaning. When I croak, hopefully not soon, whoever inherits or buys any of my rifles or shotguns will find the barrels rated at 10. They may be beat up on the outside but there is no rust or pitting whatsoever. I just use a bit of solvent, oil and a bush. I do use some foam gun scrubber at the end of the year.

Also the reason I oil the choke no matter what kind of steel its made of is not so much for the choke as the threads in the barrel. They will rust and the choke can stick if left unlubed. Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Fl strutter on February 03, 2018, 11:25:12 PM
Order u a bottle of butches bore shine and run a soaked patch thru barrel. U won't use anything else afterwards and will see the black plastic goo that comes out.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: wvnut3 on February 04, 2018, 08:45:59 AM
shooters choice mc#7 and old toothbrush.Lee
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: Marc on February 04, 2018, 05:10:30 PM
I use some sort of gun solvent and a bore brush...  I actually have a choke cleaning brush, which is basically a bore brush on a hand-drill...

I soak the choke in solvent overnight and then use the brush, and wipe out the solvent when done...  I then lubricate the threads and screw the choke back in leaving it just a tad loose (so there is no chance of it rusting in the barrel).

As mentioned, it is the plastic build-up from the wads that likely has the most potential to interfere with patterns...  And shooting waterfowl and steel loads, I do notice a considerable degree of plastic buildup in the chokes...  I clean mine about 3 or 4 times a duck season...

For turkeys, I clean the inside of the choke it at the end of the season (if I have fired any shells through the chokes)...  And always take the choke out and lubricate the threads.

Bottom line is that the main reasons for cleaning and lubricating the chokes are to reduce plastic buildup from the wads inside the choke, and to prevent the choke from rusting or setting in the barrel (this is a common occurrence with waterfowl hunting).

Anytime it rains, I unscrew the choke before casing the gun when going home, and immediately clean and lube the whole weapon upon returning home (including the choke)...  On any duck hunting forum, there is always someone posting as to how to remove a "stuck" choke from a barrel.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: mtns2hunt on February 04, 2018, 06:43:08 PM
Well, I did pick up a bottle of Butches bore shine today out of curiosity. Liked the plastic bottle that came with it. This stuff smells worse then the Southern end of a North bound skunk.

I did not get much, visible, fouling out of the Hoppes cleaned barrel. However when I shinned my bore light through the barrel there was clearly a big improvement. The barrel was super bright: brighter than I have ever seen. So I think you can say I am impressed. I will be adding it to my shotgun cleaning routine. However, It will be end of season cleaning for my rifles as it smells so strong.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: bbcoach on February 04, 2018, 07:19:19 PM
Most turkey chokes strip the wad from the shot string as it exits the barrel.  This does two things.  One, it allows the shot to head down range without the wad to imped the shot string and two it does build up plastic residue in and around the choke surfaces.  If you clean with brake cleaner, it will dissolve the plastic and you will see the residue on your toothbrush and in a bath if you use it that way.  My Indian Creek choke is bad where the slots are cut for collecting the plastic.  If you are patterning, look for your wads about 10 to 20 yards out and you'll see what the chokes do to the wads.  Clean with brake cleaner and apply a little choke lube to the threads and your good to go.
Title: Re: Cleaning Chokes?
Post by: stewdawg on February 05, 2018, 04:25:00 PM
CLP, just like in all my guns. Liberal Tears makes one.