With TSS hitting the market both in factory ammo and some of you reloading, many are talking of giving them a try. I was wondering if the manufacturers or you reloaders will take a hard look at the 12 gauge 2 3/4 incher 1 1/4 oz TSS 8's and 9's? With most of us killing birds in the 20-30 yard range, IMO the TSS 3 and 3 1/2 inchers are GREATLY OVERKILL. GREAT shell IMO for the 20, 28 and .410 crowd. I see APEX has suspended ALL their shell offerings on line until after the NWTF show. Maybe some of you attending the NWTF show could slip by the APEX booth and give us some feedback. Thoughts????
There are recipes for them to be reloaded. I think that would be fine in a 12 ga as the 2 oz + loads are a waste of shot, but if you are going to do that may as well go to the 20 and have a lighter gun.
The 12ga 2-3/4" TSS loads will kill birds stone dead at distances farther than discussed here. They are absolut hammers.
There are plenty of recipes for 2-3/4" 12ga TSS loads already available.
Quote from: davisd9 on February 01, 2018, 03:42:43 PM
There are recipes for them to be reloaded. I think that would be fine in a 12 ga as the 2 oz + loads are a waste of shot, but if you are going to do that may as well go to the 20 and have a lighter gun.
I agree if you were to set up a gun specifically for a lighter load that the 20 has the edge but TSS in 2 3/4 12ga could turn "Granddads" ole fixed choke gun into a solid performer. We really don't have many options for 2 3/4 other than high brass field loads. Federal offered them in the HW and they did very well in the older guns but they're gone now too.
Quote from: taylorjones20 on February 01, 2018, 03:55:15 PM
There are plenty of recipes for 2-3/4" 12ga TSS loads already available.
Yes there are. And, they're usually simpler and better performing loads on average than equal shot weight sub gauge loads. Only reason—outside of personal preference—to tote a 20 ga or smaller is lighter carry weight. And that too is a personal preference thing...
The 2 3/4 load I have data on is 2 oz. It's not excessive on recoil and will flatten a Tom.
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 01, 2018, 11:44:55 PM
The 2 3/4 load I have data on is 2 oz. It's not excessive on recoil and will flatten a Tom.
Wow, a 2 oz. load? What's the CUP pressure and FPS on that load. I've loaded 1 1/2 oz lead loads for ducks years ago and that was a GREAT load. Seems it would be hard to get 2 ozs of TSS in a 2 3/4 incher and keep the pressures down. My MEC could definitely make this happen. Very curious.
Quote from: bbcoach on February 02, 2018, 05:13:44 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 01, 2018, 11:44:55 PM
The 2 3/4 load I have data on is 2 oz. It's not excessive on recoil and will flatten a Tom.
Wow, a 2 oz. load? What's the CUP pressure and FPS on that load. I've loaded 1 1/2 oz lead loads for ducks years ago and that was a GREAT load. Seems it would be hard to get 2 ozs of TSS in a 2 3/4 incher and keep the pressures down. My MEC could definitely make this happen. Very curious.
I'm not sure as I don't have the data in front of me but it's a safe load. It's not hard to get that much shot on a 2 3/4 12 ga. A tss is over 50% heavier than lead.