The Mrs. and myself are going to make a trip to KS to try out the turkey hunting. Not wanting anyone's honeyholes, but what area of the state would yall recommend.
I find the part inbetween Missouri and Colorado to be the best, the part between Oklahoma and Nebraska can be kind of tough. :TooFunny:
J/K
Get a KS Spring Turkey Hunting Atlas, it will detail out all of the public land. It can be good just about anywhere. If you are wanting a Rio, I would focus north central and west.
I take it you will be mooching off our public ground. Hope the residents have a bird or two to kill when you are done. Why don't you go through an outfitter and leave the public ground alone?
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
I take it you will be mooching off our public ground. Hope the residents have a bird or two to kill when you are done. Why don't you go through an outfitter and leave the public ground alone?
We dont do the outfitter thing especially with gas prices as high as they are now. I think we will leave a couple for the residents :icon_thumright:
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
I take it you will be mooching off our public ground. Hope the residents have a bird or two to kill when you are done. Why don't you go through an outfitter and leave the public ground alone?
What the heck do you mean "mooching" off "your" public ground? Doesn't public include those from other states? How is a nonresident "mooching" any more than you are? You don't own the ground any more than a nonresident does. I guess those residents that want to kill a bird or two better get out there and hunt before the nonresidents wipe out the population.
We (nonresidents) pay taxes and buy license in your state just like you do, for that matter we pay WAY more for license than you do. It's a shame when people are so selfish with something they don't even own.
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
I take it you will be mooching off our public ground. Hope the residents have a bird or two to kill when you are done. Why don't you go through an outfitter and leave the public ground alone?
Wow! Realy?
I understand that residents pay WAY more in taxes to the state than nonresidents do, but nonresidents do bring in extra $ to the local economy where they are hunting. I know that in the areas where I hunt pheasant, deer, and turkey most of the trucks in the motels are from out of state. Those business owners are sure glad to have the nonresident $ coming in, and so are all of the businesses that they support with those $ they made.
I wasn't saying that because we pay a little tax $ that is supposed to be some strong argument, but it is part of the equation.
When it comes to people damaging personal property, that is just wrong! Those who do stuff like that need to be punished. If those resident hunters are so hard up to kill something, and think that all the game has been taken off of the public land they need to get off the couch and get out and get permission on some private land.
It can be done I know because I have permission to hunt on several farms in KS. All I had to do was knock on some doors and ask nicely.
Or I guess those residents could be the ones to hire some outfitters.
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
I take it you will be mooching off our public ground. Hope the residents have a bird or two to kill when you are done. Why don't you go through an outfitter and leave the public ground alone?
A little over the top.
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
I take it you will be mooching off our public ground. Hope the residents have a bird or two to kill when you are done. Why don't you go through an outfitter and leave the public ground alone?
That's just sad. If you want a Rio hunt around Salina.
Coflax is the same person that was crying like a baby when I shot my bird on a WIHA during archery season.Your not going to make everybody happy but it is nice that the land owners in KS. enroll the land for res. and non-res. alike to enjoy and hunt.I was also sad to see one of my favorite WIHA was sold and now can't be hunted by anybody.That said,I would look in the N.central area for a 2 bird limit and lots of birds.While I'm on my soap box,"If you don't have anything nice to say, shut up!"
I apologize if I had offended anyone. I have misdirected some of my disgust towards the non-resident hunter, where really my disgust lies with the state of Kansas. IMO the state has not properly taken care of its resident hunters. We have given non-residents the buffet for the price of a french fry. The resident contributes the lions share of the revenue used to fund the KDWP. More and more I see non-resident hunters taking advantage of very minimal license fees to hunt the ground that the has been maintianed or leased mostly by the residents money. Not to mention the infrastructure that allows the non-resident to get to his destination, or the cop that is keeping them safe, or the ambulance that is at their service.
http://kdwp.state.ks.us/news/KDWP-Info/About-KDWP/Agency-Statistics/Department-Income-Expenditures
When I was younger I would ask somebody I had never met before to hunt their ground. I would do anything to get that Turkey or Deer. Sure, I hunt some family ground annually for pheasants and such, and if invited I will hunt a friend or acquaintances ground. Yes, and I do lease some goose ground. The older I got though, the more it just doesn't sit right asking folks to hunt their ground. I would rather hunt public. I would never go into another state and hunt their state owned public ground. I feel that is for their state's residents to enjoy.
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 09:27:20 PM
When I was younger I would ask somebody I had never met before to hunt their ground. I would do anything to get that Turkey or Deer. Sure, I hunt some family ground annually for pheasants and such, and if invited I will hunt a friend or acquaintances ground. Yes, and I do lease some goose ground. The older I got though, the more it just doesn't sit right asking folks to hunt their ground. I would rather hunt public. I would never go into another state and hunt their state owned public ground. I feel that is for their state's residents to enjoy.
I do not understand why you would ask for permission to hunt in the past, but now don't. If you choose to be a public land hunter then you already know that nonresident hunters are part of the equation, if you don't like it go back to hunting private land.
Why would you feel bad about hunting out of state? Not every state can offer every type of game, you think that since KS doesn't have black bears that hunters from Kansas shouldn't hunt bear if they want to? That makes no sense to me. This is the land of the free, free to roam every state, not just the one you live in.
things have change for the worse here in Kansas. the state is way too pro-outfitter!!! it all basically comes down to money!!! plus, a lot of non-residents are "paying" their way into 'leases. lease prices have gotten out of control. i've heard way too many stories of non-resident hunter trespassing during deer and turkey season.
my buddy called the sheriff on two gentleman from Alabama he caught trespassing on his property last weekend. they told him they had permission and were filming for a TV show. WRONG! they kept boosting about the footage of the 3 birds they just killed illegally. the sheriff arrested both of them and took the video for evidence. lol!
IMO the public land in Kansas is over-hunted; however, they are still plenty of birds. Kansas' popularity as as a hunting destination is hopefully at its peak. it seems like every time i turn on a hunting show someone is hunting in Kansas. you got give props to the KDWP for their marketing! we just don't have enough public land to accommodate all of its hunters during deer season. although, i would avoid all the public ground on the weekend during turkey season. unless, you know the area extremely well. there's just too many running and gunning jockeys out there without any respect for other hunters.
i still encourage EVERYONE to come and enjoy our beautiful state, but please be responsible and respectful sportsman while you are a guest of your wonderful state... however, hunt at your own risk if you are from Missouri!!! lmao. Go Jayhawks!!!
I really cant wrap my head around people who complain about living in one of the best states for deer and turkey simply because others would like to Pay to share the wonderful hunting that is offered.
move to a state where the residents dont even want to hunt there because the hunting is so poor, wont have to worry about non residents then.
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 09:19:10 PM
I apologize if I had offended anyone. I have misdirected some of my disgust towards the non-resident hunter, where really my disgust lies with the state of Kansas. IMO the state has not properly taken care of its resident hunters. We have given non-residents the buffet for the price of a french fry. The resident contributes the lions share of the revenue used to fund the KDWP. More and more I see non-resident hunters taking advantage of very minimal license fees to hunt the ground that the has been maintianed or leased mostly by the residents money. Not to mention the infrastructure that allows the non-resident to get to his destination, or the cop that is keeping them safe, or the ambulance that is at their service.
http://kdwp.state.ks.us/news/KDWP-Info/About-KDWP/Agency-Statistics/Department-Income-Expenditures
I dont see how it is figured that residents contribute a "lions share" thru that pie chart? Not saying they dont but it cant be derived from that chart. Sounds as if you just wished that KS was a sovereign country?
figures are out dated but it is the latest they have posted/
less then a third of the hunt/fish licenses are purchased by non-residents/
the general fund comes right from the residents/
as of 2003 around 100,000 boats are registers by residents(that money goes to the KDWP),
when you get the figures all added up from their 2003 numbers and omitting the revenue allocated through federal excise tax the resident contributes 3/4 of the revenue used to run KDWP/ i would say that is the lions share!
I don't want to forget the money contributed by the Kansas chapters of Pheasants forever and NWTF that goes to the state for conservation and for the WIHA. If I am not mistaken I think the NWTF has contributed close to a quarter million to date for conservation. Some of that money has gone to restore habitat and overall turkey numbers. I have never met any non-residents at those banquets.
I don't wish for Kansas to be a it's own country but I do favor more power to the state government and less big government. I support the Kansas resident first and foremost over any other.
I was in Kansas this past weekend and when I returned to my truck, I found this note on my window and a pile of resident poop on the ground in front of my truck. At least they signed their names! ;D
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Quote from: simpzenith on April 19, 2011, 02:28:12 PM
At least they signed their names! ;D
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Quote from: ksgobbler on April 19, 2011, 03:23:21 PM
To quote one of my buddies on the current plight of Kansas hunters "I now understand how the indians felt when we started invading their land"
You can come to Arkansas during duck season and see plenty of KS plates :begging:, KS hunters like to enjoy some different places to hunt too!
Quote from: ksgobbler on April 19, 2011, 03:23:21 PM
To quote one of my buddies on the current plight of Kansas hunters "I now understand how the indians felt when we started invading their land"
Maybe they should have charged us non-resident fees!
Quote from: coflax on April 15, 2011, 05:18:41 PM
I take it you will be mooching off our public ground. Hope the residents have a bird or two to kill when you are done. Why don't you go through an outfitter and leave the public ground alone?
Wow
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You guys are ridiculous. . . . grow up. Non residents should have very little to no impact on your success. By living so close, you should know the land as well as the birds much better than non residents will ever be able to. Therefore, you should be out of our way after the first weekend, if you're not, it's your own fault- move over. :TooFunny:
Plus, you're allowed 2 birds- the last I saw of KS (last week of the season 2010) you had more than enough to go around. Just be thankful you are fortunate enough to have bird numbers that are so attractive to people living (in my case 20+ hours away) just outside your back door. And if non res still irritates you, spread the love. . . . highways go in and OUT of KS. :z-guntootsmiley:
I call pure BS.
It's a big state. Sure, some NR's and oilworkers crowd a few favored areas, but if one gets up off their phat arses, there are 1000's of toms just waiting to be killed in Kansas. East & SE might be having a tough time right now, but you can always go west for Rios & hybrids in huge #'s.
It's called WALK-IN for a reason ;D
Laws are laws. You have three options; live with the laws, work to change the laws, or move. Period ;)
mudhen
Quote from: ksgobbler on April 20, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
Dont worry, we are working to change laws. NR deer permit may cost $800 this year.
That's not true, they have already listed the price for this year. "Nonresident either-sex deer permits allow the taking of one white-tailed deer buck, doe, or fawn. The cost of the permit is $322.50, " that's right from the KDWP website.
This whole thread is a JOKE! Just so you know I am leaving for KS tomorrow morning!! :you_rock: :you_rock: :you_rock: I will be hunting both private and public land!!
When a Non-Resident hunter makes a comment that they'd like to share in the Kansas resident's resources and there is plenty of land to hunt, all I have to do is hop into my truck and take a little drive around the country. Places I used to hunt – private and former WIHA, are now locked up by an outfitter or a Non-resident hunter. To put it bluntly – they never "share", ever. Then there are places that I used to hunt that the landowner has shut off all hunting because someone trashed a fence or sprayed the farmhouse with some buckshot. Either way, now there is less land to hunt and more and more people hunting it. To make things even more interesting, now we have to deal with "experts" who have a pro-staff decal on their truck and are promoting something (insert guide service / custom calls / decoys / outdoor miracle product). They've got their video cameras and are trying to get footage of how great their product is so they can put a video clip on their web site or worse – produce some cheesy DVD that will retail originally for $14.99 but will eventually be available in the Bargain Cave for $3.99. You know who you are.
I haven't been here on this board very long, but one thing I picked up on real quick was that it is really hard to sift through some of the threads because of all the ad's piggy- backed on the bottom of some of your individual posts. If you stand to make financial gains by exploiting the natural resources of Kansas at the expense of the regular working stiff, I will most likely disregard your opinions as they are likely influenced by a profit motive. There is something else this Kansas resident can do – never buy one of your products.
Ya might as well...Iowa and Illinois ain't far from it, I hear. :D
You are still getting NO sympathy from me. There is land to be hunted on in Kansas private and public, all you have to do is some research and you can be in the game.
I don't know anyone else, but I haven't made a penny hunting in KS, although I have spent a lot. I do get to bring home some great memories, and some great tasting deer, turkey, and pheasant meat! :you_rock: I love hunting in Kansas!! :z-guntootsmiley: It seems to be a target rich environment!
Quote from: EasyE on April 20, 2011, 04:03:42 PM
When a Non-Resident hunter makes a comment that they'd like to share in the Kansas resident's resources and there is plenty of land to hunt, all I have to do is hop into my truck and take a little drive around the country. Places I used to hunt – private and former WIHA, are now locked up by an outfitter or a Non-resident hunter. To put it bluntly – they never "share", ever. Then there are places that I used to hunt that the landowner has shut off all hunting because someone trashed a fence or sprayed the farmhouse with some buckshot. Either way, now there is less land to hunt and more and more people hunting it.
Its like this everywhere....not just Kansas. 15 years ago it was Missouri that was getting pounded by NR hunters. I have lost lots of properties due to hunting clubs, leases, other hunters ect. here in Missouri. Its just something we have to deal with with a growing hunter population. However, I would never tell someone I dont want them to come enjoy Missouri or that I have more right than anyone else to enjoy it. In my opinion just because they dont live here doesnt mean they have less right to hunt. Someday I would like to hunt elk, and I would hate to be told I cant because I'm not a resident of Colorado or some other state.
LX - I do not desire any sympathy. I am simply detailing the changes that have and are occurring in Kansas. Don't be surprised on one of your future trips if Kansas is not the "target rich environment" you remembered it being nor as affordable as it is now. Take some time to look at the changes that have occurred in New Mexico regarding the protection of the resident hunter's opportunities. It is possible similar changes may one day occur in Kansas.
One last point to ponder, is there not any public or private land in your state where you could hunt turkey or deer? I'm sure "all you have to do is some research and you can be in the game".
Quote from: EasyE on April 20, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
LX - I do not desire any sympathy. I am simply detailing the changes that have and are occurring in Kansas. Don't be surprised on one of your future trips if Kansas is not the "target rich environment" you remembered it being nor as affordable as it is now. Take some time to look at the changes that have occurred in New Mexico regarding the protection of the resident hunter's opportunities. It is possible similar changes may one day occur in Kansas.
One last point to ponder, is there not any public or private land in your state where you could hunt turkey or deer? I'm sure "all you have to do is some research and you can be in the game".
I hunt public and private land here in AR for deer, turkey, ducks, etc. Doesn't make a hill of beans to me where, I just like to be out there and I do my fair share of killing on both. I like to turkey hunt here in AR and then go to KS each year. I have met some landowners there who are know my friends and do not ask for anything in return for permission to hunt their land other than respect property lines and don't trash it. I abide by all.
I do have some sympathy for you in that I've seen a dramatic rise in hunters in the 10 yrs I have been going to KS and many lands are now posted. If I was looking for a place to just go and find somewhere to hunt, KS would not be that place anymore. I've heard of more road shooting there from non-residents and residents alike. KDWP would be wise to crackdown on that and it would keep alot of people away that just go to poach.
My sympathy comes from the fact that I exclusively hunt public flooded timber for ducks. Just so happens to be the most popular place in the world for it, Bayou Meto WMA. I have never, ever treated a non-resident with any disrespect because he is not an Arkansan. I can assure you, there are much worse things that happen there from non-residents not knowing what they are doing that turkey hunters in KS. I'd bet the house on it. The difference is, I offer a hand to those people who are spending their hard earned dollars to share in my states resources. I want them to go home with a great experience and memories of fine hunting. I felt so bad for some guys who drove all the way from Maryland to hunt with a beatup old skiff for a boat, that I took them three consecutive days to my favorite hole. They had the time of their life.
I'll be there this year, and the next, and the next lord willing. Maybe I'll see you at the duck hole.
I agree with cuttinAR.I have lost permission in Iowa,MO. and my home state of IL. and hunt public land.I help non-res.hunters with insight on my favorite public spot in IL. every year.I would never put a note on a truck or slash tires.
Out of state hunters in any state is something you either live with or quit hunting. In Iowa we jacked the prices of tags for Turkeys to the point we don't get many out of state hunters here any more. We just don't have the amount of hunting land to accomadate more than the locals. Our problem deals with the amount of land being leased for Deer hunting by out of state hunters, which leaves it unused during Turkey season.
I parked in front of Shane on our Kansas hunt, and my SUV was so covered in dirt and mud, that they cleaned off my plate to see what state I was from. ;D Evidently being from Iowa was okay, because they didn't leave me a nasty note. They probably Deer hunt Iowa like many. I've never had a problem in Kansas, and one of my friends lives where we hunt, but the seeing the displeasure of the Kansas hunters on here, maybe I'll end up with an issue in the future. I'll be hunting up there again in a week, and plan on it every year. Iowa and Kansas are my 2 favorite Turkey spots.
Quote from: EasyE on April 20, 2011, 05:15:42 PM
One last point to ponder, is there not any public or private land in your state where you could hunt turkey or deer? I'm sure "all you have to do is some research and you can be in the game".
I definitely do deer and turkey hunt here in Arkansas, but I also like to deer and turkey hunt other places too. Kansas is not the only state I have bought non-resident tags in this spring. I will hunt in as many states as I have the funds to hunt. There is nothing like a good road trip and shooting some turkeys!! You should try it sometime.
I sure am glad the residents out where I hunt in KS are kind and nice to deal with! I look forward to going back every year.
I just got back from North East Kansas. There are plenty of birds up there, Hybrids and easterns. The people up there were very friendly and considered turkeys a nuisance bird ???? I don't see how you can possibly have too many turkeys. It was a very good experience. Worth the 900 mile drive one way, and the NR hunting license cost of 127.50. I hunted on private cattle farms.
Quote from: Jay on April 20, 2011, 08:39:38 PM
...my SUV was so covered in dirt and mud, that they cleaned off my plate to see what state I was from. ;D Evidently being from Iowa was okay, because they didn't leave me a nasty note. ...
When I went to north-central KS last year to the hunt the last weekend in May, I only saw one other vehicle on the dirt roads I drove on. ONE VEHICLE!!! It was crazy!
Quote from: Jay on April 20, 2011, 08:39:38 PM
Out of state hunters in any state is something you either live with or quit hunting. In Iowa we jacked the prices of tags for Turkeys to the point we don't get many out of state hunters here any more. We just don't have the amount of hunting land to accomadate more than the locals. Our problem deals with the amount of land being leased for Deer hunting by out of state hunters, which leaves it unused during Turkey season.
I parked in front of Shane on our Kansas hunt, and my SUV was so covered in dirt and mud, that they cleaned off my plate to see what state I was from. ;D Evidently being from Iowa was okay, because they didn't leave me a nasty note. They probably Deer hunt Iowa like many. I've never had a problem in Kansas, and one of my friends lives where we hunt, but the seeing the displeasure of the Kansas hunters on here, maybe I'll end up with an issue in the future. I'll be hunting up there again in a week, and plan on it every year. Iowa and Kansas are my 2 favorite Turkey spots.
What public area did you guys get the note in?
I don't know how you guys are finding all of these land owners that allow you to hunt. In my experience, any private land worth hunting within 150 miles of KC is either leased up by a rich texan or the farmer wants a little kick back. This leaves me, as a resident, to be stuck with the public land.
Quote from: ksgobbler on April 20, 2011, 09:54:12 PM
...but now I hope you get killed in a car crash on your travels.
Dude...
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we dont need that on this board totally uncalled for. you should be ashamed ks gobbler.
Quote from: ksgobbler on April 20, 2011, 09:54:12 PM
Quote from: LX_Trkyhntr on April 20, 2011, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: ksgobbler on April 20, 2011, 03:24:27 PM
Dont worry, we are working to change laws. NR deer permit may cost $800 this year.
That's not true, they have already listed the price for this year. "Nonresident either-sex deer permits allow the taking of one white-tailed deer buck, doe, or fawn. The cost of the permit is $322.50, " that's right from the KDWP website.
This whole thread is a JOKE! Just so you know I am leaving for KS tomorrow morning!! :you_rock: :you_rock: :you_rock: I will be hunting both private and public land!!
HB2295 -- this bill would amend K.S.A. 2010 Supp. 32-919, 32-932, 32-937, 32-980, and 32-988 and repealing the existing sections to exempt a landowner's immediate family members from hunting license requirements while hunting on that landowner's land (current law exempts family members domiciled with the landowner); would remove the current disability exemption that allows the use of a crossbow during the archery season to allow anyone to use crossbows during the archery season; would extend the "extended season for female white-tailed deer hunting with the use of firearms through January 23, 2012"; amends the formula used to establish nonresident deer permit quotas so that the percent increase in permit numbers by unit required the first year (2008) the formula was used to be adhered to every year; would allow a landowner's immediate family members to purchase hunt-own-land permits whether or not they were domiciled with the landowner (currently the landowner's immediate family domiciled with the landowner may purchase hunt-own-land permits and a landowner's siblings and lineal descendants and ascendants and their spouses may purchase special hunt-own-land permits regardless of residency); would establish a mandatory contribution of at least $2 to activities of Kansas hunters feeding the hungry, Inc. (current law allows a voluntary contribution); and raises the maximum price that could be charged for nonresident big game permits to $800, $300 for nonresident mule deer stamp, and $50 for an application fee. Bill was referred to the Committee on Natural Resources
I was on your side, but now I hope you get killed in a car crash on your travels.
Hey you----I read your post a couple of times to make sure I wasn't missing something. If I understand correctly, you have just wished that Stephan would get killed in a car crash on his way to
Kansas. OH--the relative safety of making such statements on the internet. Had this been said in a more personal environment--my response would not be as verbal as this one. I say your two options are to apologize or get gone.
Quote from: Preacher on April 20, 2011, 10:10:02 PM
we dont need that on this board totally uncalled for. you should be ashamed ks gobbler.
Amen brother. No reason in a discussion like this to make that statement.
ksgobbler .... farewell ......
:z-winnersmiley: :z-winnersmiley: THanks Shannon I can't believe that it went that far. That was completly uncalled for. I am right with you Catdaddy!!!
I know how much the non resisdent thing can put a bind in your hunting I mean I live in Iowa where we have guys from at least 21 states who own ground in my county alone. But like Jay said you either learn to deal with it or you stop hunting.
ksgobbler, I hope you have a great season and are able to fill your tags. I am not concerned about your post, it will not change the outcome of my future. If tomorrow were my day to meet the Lord, it would be because it is his will and not yours.
Thanks to OG for banning people that post stuff like this, there is no place for stuff like that. OG is the best run site on the net!!
Well..."Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"
Selfishness, greed, immaturity, and sense of entitlement never cease to amaze me. I am glad there are some great folks in KS. I have found friendly hunters and landowners there and will be returning next month for more gobbler opportunity and maybe find a few mushrooms.
Hunters in most states have experienced loss of hunting opportunities. This explosion of hunting popularity helps to ensure we will be able to enjoy our passions in the future.
Thanks OG!
Like I said before, if you would like to hunt Rios I would try around Salina. I have been going there for the last five years and will be going back in a couple of weeks. We hunt private ground but the landowners around thier really don't care much if you hunt turkeys. It seems it's the deer they are a little more protective of. And we have never had a problem with anyone in Kansas as long as we don't mention how bad the Jayhawks are.
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Quote from: SinGin on April 21, 2011, 04:31:39 PM
we have never had a problem with anyone in Kansas as long as we don't mention how bad the Jayhawks are.
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Everybody was Wildcat fans were we stayed. We didn't give anybody a hard time because LSU does not play them in football. LOL. Everyone in the little town we stayed in was very friendly. Everywhere we would stop they would ask how our turkey hunting was going. We really enjoyed our Kansas experience.
I wouldn't let this thread stop me from hunting KS. I'm there for archery turkey season and don't see anybody.I have been from Norton to Stockton to Marysville and had great success and I will be back this fall to turkey hunt again.
I am shocked by this thread! I was born in Kansas, grew up in Kansas, and paid a ton of money in taxes. I also remember when Missouri had tons of turkeys and Ks had few. I paid $55 (a lot of money in 1985) to hunt in MO. I hunted there a lot, developed friendships with folks there and shot LOTS of turkeys. Then KS started getting more birds. I had to move away for my job in 95. I moved around for several years and was finally able to come back to KC 6 yeras ago. Because I fly a lot, i moved up North in MISSOURI, which is a short drive to the airport. I still have 120 acres in KC owned by my uncle, but I hunt it with my MO tags on my truck. I still hate Missouri University and am a HUGE Jayhawk fan, but just because I live a few miles across the border is no reason to claim I am an outsider. Anybody who hates on a hunter because they don't have your tags are ridiculous. Most of you guys that are being pissy about Missouri hunters coming over and ruining your hunting are the same guys that have traipsed all over MO for years when they had all the birds. If you do your homework and maintain those relationships with the landowners you can find TONS of land in your state to hunt. if you can't find a place to hunt you can blame yourselves because you haven't done the legwork needed to find a spot.
As a Kansan I am embarassed by the attitude of some of these KS hunters who are putting a claim check on something that ain't yours.
I got back from KS a week ago today.
I spent about $500 in KS, hunted tw mornings and one evening before getting rained/hailed out. I didn't take any dead turkeys home with me either.
Not ever out of stater is bad. You'd have to spend over $5K to pay in enough sales tax to cover my brief trip there.
But if every out of stater spent money and didn't kill your birds maybe we'd be more welcome. :TooFunny:
I DO understand your concerns on lease prices. Texas started that crap and sadly it's spread. One day I'll be priced out of deer hunting I suspect. Turkeys, not so much with public land Easterns available near me but I already to go OK to hunt Rios.
I have never in my life seen someone act like that guy.. whats up with (not all the people in KS) some of these KS folks? I mean I don't care to pull up to my spots and see trucks... but so be it.. I got other places to hunt too... first this and then Shane got a note :TooFunny: and Jay stepped in some doo doo :TooFunny:... makes me want to drive around KS...
Geez, if I had known that this question would have made such an uproar I would not have asked. I just wanted a little "general" info. All I can say is if anyone messes with our stuff or decides to leave me a message that I will probably being contributing more money to the state of KS ;D Thanks for all of the worthwhile info.
yep, my experience in KS for turkeys and ND for waterfowl has been nothing but positive. i have had locals treat me like a trusted friend always and had them openly laugh at me for driving from PA to hunt. yeah, can you believe that nut drove from PA to kill a few turkeys!!! i loved every minute of it, even the drive. :thanks:
Quote from: ksgobbler on April 15, 2011, 08:55:38 PMYeah, the WIHA is a good idea but it is a double edged sword. All teh WIHA around here is now leased through a company. The WIHA gives people a chance to test the waters and see if it is worth leasing, then they come in and take it. I'd much rather see the $1 million plus dollars they spend on WIHA per year used to buy land the state will own.
This exact scenario has happened so many times..........KDWP is like a leasing agent for the term of the WIHA contract and then it goes to the highest bidder. Great idea to increase access, horrible management. The state can't compete with big money from OOS or in state for that matter.
I feel fortunate to have permission from landowners that HATE leasing. The last thing they want is somebody thinking the have a 'right' to be on their property. And they've caught so many people from AR, MS, and LA trespassing that pretty much everyone from OOS gets an automatic NO.
I don't have a problem with OOSer's, come and enjoy our resources as we will come and enjoy yours. Just obey the law of the land while your here, and don't act like you own the place. We're no different than any other place, we will treat you with kindness and respect if you show the same in return. Happy hunting!
I believe all the recent out of state pressure in Kansas has caused some hard feelings with the locals in certain areas. Our situation was caused by locals who had a good piece of Public they probably had hunted to themselves for years to find out of state hunters there for the first time, when they drove in that morning. ;D A nasty note, and a pile of crap was their way to express that, which I can live with vs slashed tires.