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Title: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Spurs Up on June 15, 2017, 07:20:54 PM
Isn't broken or incomplete barring on a gobbler's wings characteristic of a (true) Osceola turkey?  If so, this must be a super Osceola. What's your call? 
Title: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Happy on June 15, 2017, 07:31:17 PM
My vote is buzzard.

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Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: guesswho on June 15, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
Could just as easily be an Eastern, Rio or other.    But I'd guess Eastern just because of of their numbers put the odds in their favor.   I've killed them with a couple wing feathers like that on both wings but never the whole wing.  Pretty cool looking.
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: g8rvet on June 15, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
Melanistic bird would be my guess, even if it is a pure Osceola, but I will let the south Florida hunters chime in on this.  I live in FL and have killed Osceola, but it was many moons ago.
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Spurs Up on June 15, 2017, 07:52:52 PM
Quote from: Happy on June 15, 2017, 07:31:17 PM
My vote is buzzard.

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Wouldn't rule that out, but I can tell you that it behaved like a turkey and ate better than an ole buzzard (or so I've heard).
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Spurs Up on June 15, 2017, 08:04:01 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on June 15, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
Melanistic bird would be my guess, even if it is a pure Osceola, but I will let the south Florida hunters chime in on this.  I live in FL and have killed Osceola, but it was many moons ago.

We have a winner! 

It's a good old Eastern.  Here's another photo...
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: WiLL B on June 15, 2017, 08:04:51 PM
I've killed a couple with 2 or 3 buzzard feathers per wing but have only seen pictures of one like that. That's a melanistic (Black Phase) turkey. Rare and very neat trophy!
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: WiLL B on June 15, 2017, 08:07:02 PM
Quote from: Spurs Up on June 15, 2017, 08:04:01 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on June 15, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
Melanistic bird would be my guess, even if it is a pure Osceola, but I will let the south Florida hunters chime in on this.  I live in FL and have killed Osceola, but it was many moons ago.

We have a winner! 

It's a good old Eastern.  Here's another photo...
Man that's a really cool gobbler!!!
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: WiLL B on June 15, 2017, 08:09:35 PM
Show us some more pictures of him!
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Jroddc on June 15, 2017, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: WiLL B on June 15, 2017, 08:09:35 PM
Show us some more pictures of him!
X2 That's an awesome bird! Congrats!
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Old Gobbler on June 15, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Awesome specimen and trophy , please keep it in a safe place , the gobblers I've seen don't have that kind of black on the whole wing including the secondary feathers like yours


I've shot a quite a few throughout the state from the very southern most areas  , we're talking below the parallel of ft lauderdale and miami all the way up almost Georgia


In my opinion is the same as of Dr.Lovett Williams , Orlando area and south for the real thing, but I'll add that some on the eastern seaboard around Volusia county are as similar also not too much north east of Orlando that look almost  identical to the gobblers near Lake Okeechobee

I've shot a few that were almost all black like the one pictured (on primarys only) , and come back to the same spot and killed others from the same flock that did not have the all black trait , it could be a recessed genetic trait in combination with a nutritional factor , Dr .williams I recalled talked about it in his books --Shannon

Title: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Happy on June 15, 2017, 08:20:18 PM
Darn. Guess I am wrong again. My second guess was going to be a turkey. A mentally challenged one that was a little slow getting out of the way of one of those prescribed burns you boys like to do down south.

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Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Spurs Up on June 15, 2017, 08:36:41 PM
Quote from: Happy on June 15, 2017, 08:20:18 PM
Darn. Guess I am wrong again. My second guess was going to be a turkey. A mentally challenged one that was a little slow getting out of the way of one of those prescribed burns you boys like to do down south.

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Wouldn't say it was "mentally challenged", but I'm always leery of eating any turkey that comes to my calling.
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Spurs Up on June 15, 2017, 08:46:43 PM
Quote from: Jroddc on June 15, 2017, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: WiLL B on June 15, 2017, 08:09:35 PM
Show us some more pictures of him!
X2 That's an awesome bird! Congrats!

Not the best photo, but cropped for witness protection...
Title: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Happy on June 15, 2017, 08:49:19 PM
Wouldn't say it was "mentally challenged", but I'm always leery of eating any turkey that comes to my calling.

Rest easy. If that was the case I would already be dead.

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Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: outdoors on June 16, 2017, 08:17:55 AM
                            Osceola
Yup Osceolas are every bit different in many ways
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Double B on June 16, 2017, 08:44:37 AM
Great looking bird!
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: RutnNStrutn on June 25, 2017, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on June 15, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
Melanistic bird would be my guess
x2 :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on June 25, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
Thats really neat!! That one would have me parting ways with some cash to my taxidermist....  :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Cottonmouth on June 25, 2017, 07:22:36 PM
Very unique trophy. I'm sure he'll have some offspring that is just as unique.
Title: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: Dr Juice on June 25, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
Awesome trophy. Congrats. I would be dropping some Benjamins if I scored that bird.
Title: Re: True (or False) Osceola?
Post by: sixbird on June 26, 2017, 02:22:11 PM
Man, I hope you mounted that one...