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Title: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: silencer223 on May 11, 2017, 10:57:48 AM
Hey all, recently this year I patterned my gun at 40 yards and the pattern was about 1.5 to 2ft low. Using the same gun (stoeger m300 with factory xfull choke) and ammo (remington nitro turkey) last year I had a very good pattern POA POI at 40 using my front fiber optic bead. Like I said this year was a different story. Any idea why this might happen or how to fix it? I did use the gun and shoot it alot for small game, clays, ducks, and geese. But I don't know how that would affect it..

So yesterday I went out, had a long beard come in range, I compensated a little to try to move the pattern up, he was at 35 yards and I killed him but most of the shot was in the chest with some breast damage. It ended up bein g n my biggest bird with a 9" beard and 1 1/8" spurs.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170511/1160e659bf696bae9063a793fecd7825.jpg)

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Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: Greg Massey on May 11, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
If your wanting a scope look at the Simmons pro diamond....good scope for the money...
Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: TRG3 on May 11, 2017, 04:08:27 PM
The Bushnell TRS 25 is a nice red-dot type scope with 11 brightness settings. I've used it for years on my Remington 870 3" 12 gauge and it's held up well plus eliminates sighting adjustments after zeroed in.
Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: chatterbox on May 11, 2017, 06:43:36 PM
Any good red dot or scope will fix your issues.
Vortex Venom, Burris FastFires, etc., or any low power scope would work well.
Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: Natty Bumpo on May 13, 2017, 05:49:25 AM
Leupold, Leupold, Leupold..............
Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: kyturkeyhunter4 on May 13, 2017, 10:26:07 AM
I've used the Simmons pro diamond for years and ain't had any issues with them. Great scope if you get one try to find the older ones that where made in the Philippines.
Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: Chris O on May 13, 2017, 12:46:38 PM
I don't know about stoeger but Beneli and Beretta have different shims you can put in the stock to change the pitch
Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: taketheshot on May 13, 2017, 02:58:40 PM
Quote from: Natty Bumpo on May 13, 2017, 05:49:25 AM
Leupold, Leupold, Leupold..............

I LOVE my Leupold vx-1 with turkey plex reticle.
Title: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: Dtrkyman on May 13, 2017, 06:22:06 PM
That far off I would look into issues with gun and choke first!!! Also different loads


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Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: sixbird on May 13, 2017, 07:09:11 PM
Did you change anything, ie. choke, ammo? Any damage as in dropping, etc.?
For the POI to change for no reason doesn't make sense.
I can't imagine the gun would function if not assembled correctly but is everything fit together snugly?
There's some reason for the change in POI and a sight isn't going to solve that issue. You need to identify what changed before you can move on to adjusting the POA and POI.
Title: Re: Gun Patterning Low and Scope Suggestions
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on May 13, 2017, 07:21:15 PM
Quote from: Dtrkyman on May 13, 2017, 06:22:06 PM
That far off I would look into issues with gun and choke first!!! Also different loads


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x2 That's where I would start...Imo optics are to help me aim correctly for a clean kill not to fix a gun that won't shoot straight. I can live with correcting a few inches one way or the other,but that's it for me. That gun wouldn't have been hunting with me until I got the issues at hand taken care of first.