Ok we all know someone who's always killing gobblers with 1 1/2" spurs. We hear the stories, we read the posts, we see the pictures (usually without tapes) but now seriously how many of you have killed a longbeard with legit 1 1/2" or greater spurs? Without looking at my records I've killed roughly 100 gobblers and can tell you without a doubt I've never killed one with spurs that long. So lets hear it and better yet, lets see them! :drool:
Your measuring spur length from the wrong side of the gobblers leg. If you hook your tape on the front of their leg it makes your tape measure much easier to hold as well. :lol:
Quote from: Ozarks Hillbilly on April 26, 2017, 05:14:20 PM
Your measuring spur length from the wrong side of the gobblers leg. If you hook your tape on the front of their leg it makes your tape measure much easier to hold as well. :lol:
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1x (in 30+ years...rocky mountain ground)
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A handful. And a couple legit 1 3/4 inches. An Osceola and a Eastern. But I agree, most 1 1/2's are closer to 1 1/4.
Hey now, 7/8" rounds up to 1 1/2". Fact...it's science.
Quote from: stinkpickle on April 26, 2017, 06:16:06 PM
Hey now, 7/8" rounds up to 1 1/2". Fact...it's science.
:TooFunny:
Never killed one and have only held one or two sets. They aren't common at all here in the mountains.
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Do not know whether it was or not cause we did not measure. I did not kill him but roosted him for my father in laws friend. Probably the closest I have seen in person if not 1.5".
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I've killed a bunch, and have 2 for sure and one other that was close, Ive guided hundreds of kills and have only seen a few.
So in several hundred maybe four or five ever! there impressive, my best are 1 7/8
I've never killed one with 1.5" hooks. I've only ever seen a couple killed around here with 1.5" spurs.
I have killed one with true 1.5" Spurs and another that 99.98% of people' would call 1.5 they were a strong 1 7/16. The same evening I killed my 1.5" bird I was so pumped then my cousin showed up at the camp with one that had true 1 7/8" Spurs and let all the wind out of my sails.
I've killed one in IL that had a 1 5/8" spur and the other spur had the tip broke off. It's honestly been long enough that I can't recall if the shorter spur was 1 7/16 or 1 9/16.
I think after that I fall back to multiple 1 1/4" spurs.
My 7 year old daughter's first bird had one spur that measured 1 5/8. Out of all the Osceolas I've killed my best is an 1 1/4.
Bird in my avatar had a legit 12" beard (not measuring the gristle that many include once removing it from the bird) and one spur that was 1.5" and the other was 1-7/16". Bird this year had one that was 1-1/4" and the other was 1-3/8". So close, but not quite. Either way, both birds made me happy. Not a ton of them killed but as one mentioned above, when measured properly, they can easily become 1-1/2" pretty fast. :funnyturkey:
I've pulled the trigger on just shy of 100 and never a 1 1/2" spur. I've got two that were 1 7/16" but I'm yet to break inch and a half.
Killed one about 30 years ago that had ONE 1.5 incher. The other was right around a heavy 1.25
Had the bird mounted and some visiting kids rode it like a horse and destroyed it.................. Still have the feet here somewhere, I think...................
Not yet, killed a bird with double spurs but even those don't add up to 1.5 most areas I hunt they just get too worn down but as I travel to hunt more I'm sure I'll find one eventually
I'm still gonna keep pulling the trigger and rolling them over to check.
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JR took our best in 2013 1-5/8"
not a huge bird at 19 # with a 10-1/2" beard
These are mostly all youth season birds hung up on my first ever buck kill. But out of the bunch there is four birds with one of the spurs measuring in at an 1 1/2" or greater. Will get pictures of my sisters first and only bird, it still needs certified but will be a Missouri record, her's sat at 1 7/8" and the other was 2 1/4" those hooks were un-freaking-believable. And on a side note of heaviest birds, I killed a 30.5 pound turkey and his spurs and beard are in that bunch. Here's the news article to prove it.... God how I miss hunting that prime private land that produced these monster gobblers.
http://www.lakeexpo.com/news/top_stories/kids-enjoy-dream-turkey-hunts-during-youth-season/article_913bf677-e4ad-5b12-b685-c859ce6f8c3c.html
But here's my spur necklace with some monsters in there.
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The Kansas stud I killed this year on Easter also had one hook that was 1 1/2" them puppies were sharp too, sliced my hand good when he was deader then a rock, no flop, just got me wrong carrying him out.
Never killed one with 1 1/2 " spurs. My best was 1 1/4 " on one side and 1 3/8" on the other. Birds here in the mountains and ridges don't really get those long sharp spurs.
Quote from: TURKEYSTALKER on April 26, 2017, 11:16:15 PM
JR took our best in 2013 1-5/8"
not a huge bird at 19 # with a 10-1/2" beard
Those are some freakin' daggers! Those are dream spurs! Congrats to your junior!
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 27, 2017, 08:06:05 AM
These are mostly all youth season birds hung up on my first ever buck kill. But out of the bunch there is four birds with one of the spurs measuring in at an 1 1/2" or greater. Will get pictures of my sisters first and only bird, it still needs certified but will be a Missouri record, her's sat at 1 7/8" and the other was 2 1/4" those hooks were un-freaking-believable. And on a side note of heaviest birds, I killed a 30.5 pound turkey and his spurs and beard are in that bunch. Here's the news article to prove it.... God how I miss hunting that prime private land that produced these monster gobblers.
http://www.lakeexpo.com/news/top_stories/kids-enjoy-dream-turkey-hunts-during-youth-season/article_913bf677-e4ad-5b12-b685-c859ce6f8c3c.html
But here's my spur necklace with some monsters in there.
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So just guessing you're in your early to mid 20's and have killed 4 gobblers with 1.5" spurs? If so, that's very fortunate and blessed. I know pics can be deceiving but I don't see 4 out of those 16 spurs being 1.5 or greater. For the record, I've been wrong many times before. lol
I've been killing turkeys for about 23 years. I've only killed two that were 1-1/2". One of those was 1-9/16. I've killed several 1-1/4 and 1-3/8. Got a 1-5/16 yesterday...
I have gotten lucky and shot two birds with 1 1/2 inch spurs one I mounted and the other has a fan mount I only have a pic of the one on my phone right now. Both eastern s from Virginia
One so far. 1.5", as measured by an independent 3rd party at a local sporting good store.
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Here he is mounted.
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Only 1 in my 30 years of Turkey hunting. Appalachian mountains are tough on spurs with steep terrain and plenty of rocks.
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Quote from: dublelung on April 27, 2017, 09:26:15 AM
So just guessing you're in your early to mid 20's and have killed 4 gobblers with 1.5" spurs? If so, that's very fortunate and blessed. I know pics can be deceiving but I don't see 4 out of those 16 spurs being 1.5 or greater. For the record, I've been wrong many times before. lol
I'll get up a few tape measure pictures.... I was very fortunate in hunting flat river bottoms where the hooks rarely got worn down. I fully credit the land I was hunting on and my father for calling these birds in... Between them and the 30 lb. bird I likely will never top them in the rest of my years, that land was a DREAM to hunt on and is for sale if anyone's got a million dollars.
only 2. the rocky ground must be rough on em.
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Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 27, 2017, 08:06:05 AM
These are mostly all youth season birds hung up on my first ever buck kill. But out of the bunch there is four birds with one of the spurs measuring in at an 1 1/2" or greater. Will get pictures of my sisters first and only bird, it still needs certified but will be a Missouri record, her's sat at 1 7/8" and the other was 2 1/4" those hooks were un-freaking-believable. And on a side note of heaviest birds, I killed a 30.5 pound turkey and his spurs and beard are in that bunch. Here's the news article to prove it.... God how I miss hunting that prime private land that produced these monster gobblers.
http://www.lakeexpo.com/news/top_stories/kids-enjoy-dream-turkey-hunts-during-youth-season/article_913bf677-e4ad-5b12-b685-c859ce6f8c3c.html
But here's my spur necklace with some monsters
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/TheZombieKilla/image_zps1z6dzdfh.jpeg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/TheZombieKilla/media/image_zps1z6dzdfh.jpeg.html)
So just guessing you're in your early to mid 20's and have killed 4 gobblers with 1.5" spurs? If so, that's very fortunate and blessed. I know pics can be deceiving but I don't see 4 out of those 16 spurs being 1.5 or greater. For the record, I've been wrong many times before. lol
I don't see a single 1.5 in spur in the bunch.
Best I can tell from photos I've seen on social media and message boards, a 1.5 inch spur is really struggling to break an inch, and a 12 inch beard is a little under 10. Doesn't mean those big boys aren't out there, but they are rare. Certainly there are places where genetics and environment combine to make them more or less common, but I've seen well over a hundred die. Two were longer than 1.5, and another measured exactly 1.5 on his best leg. The average bird I've seen killed, and I'll combine those I've seen checked, had spurs a bit under an inch, and damned few went 1.25.
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 27, 2017, 08:06:05 AM
These are mostly all youth season birds hung up on my first ever buck kill. But out of the bunch there is four birds with one of the spurs measuring in at an 1 1/2" or greater. Will get pictures of my sisters first and only bird, it still needs certified but will be a Missouri record, her's sat at 1 7/8" and the other was 2 1/4" those hooks were un-freaking-believable. And on a side note of heaviest birds, I killed a 30.5 pound turkey and his spurs and beard are in that bunch. Here's the news article to prove it.... God how I miss hunting that prime private land that produced these monster gobblers.
http://www.lakeexpo.com/news/top_stories/kids-enjoy-dream-turkey-hunts-during-youth-season/article_913bf677-e4ad-5b12-b685-c859ce6f8c3c.html
But here's my spur necklace with some monsters in there.
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2.25" is a world record for a single spur, though there is 2.5" from this year challenging it.
Quote from: davisd9 on April 27, 2017, 12:49:53 PM
2.25" is a world record for a single spur, though there is 2.5" from this year challenging it.
Don't believe me... I know it goes pics or it didn't happen... Patience and you'll see them, then sh*t right in your britches. They really are something that's a total freak of nature.
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 27, 2017, 12:55:27 PM
Quote from: davisd9 on April 27, 2017, 12:49:53 PM
2.25" is a world record for a single spur, though there is 2.5" from this year challenging it.
Don't believe me... I know it goes pics or it didn't happen... Patience and you'll see them, then sh*t right in your britches. They really are something that's a total freak of nature.
Do not recall saying that I believe you or not, just stated the current world record for a single spur is 2.25".
For the non believers from my bunch of spurs it's easiest to measure them with a string then measure the string but here's a couple quick ones. The tape measure on the one with no leg bone isn't bent along the spur to measure true length but the other is. If you look at the pic there's four Spurs in there all the same size so here's to pictures to prove ya'll wrong.
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I'll take your word for it, but the picture makes it appear that he's coming up a little short. I could easily be wrong but it looks like about an 1/8" give or take is scale/leg. Great bird either way and congrats!
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 27, 2017, 01:18:04 PM
For the non believers from my bunch of spurs it's easiest to measure them with a string then measure the string but here's a couple quick ones. The tape measure on the one with no leg bone isn't bent along the spur to measure true length but the other is. If you look at the pic there's four Spurs in there all the same size so here's to pictures to prove ya'll wrong.
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Absolute beast of some spurs and bigger than any I've ever killed but you're cutting 1/16" on the first pic and can't see the end of the tape in the other one. Those are likely bigger than any the majority of turkey hunters will ever kill so you should be proud of them either way. If I'm ever fortunate enough to kill one with 1.5" or greater then it's going to cost me 800-1200.00 dollars ;D
I've shot 1 with 1.5" one with 1 5/8" and one that was just shy of 1 3/4. Came in at 27, 29, and 23 lbs.
1. I'll post picture tonight. Since holding one I am a believer. Its the birds with multiple spurs and 2"+ spurs that are insane to me. There was a 2.5" spur posted in a Turkey Facebook group last week I believe. Black Wing Taxidermy posted a pic of a bird with 2" spurs earlier this year.
I sold a bunch of big spurs off some domestics that a farmer of ours had kept around as pets for a loooong time on eBay in the last couple years.
Sold 'em to some young man in Eastern KS if I remember right. Went by Hooked on Hoo....wait a cotton picking' minute!
I'm kidding bud - don't feel like ya gotta prove up to a bunch of guys pretending they are turkey slaying machines on the inter webs. You will alway know the truth, and anyone that doesn't believe you isn't worth your time. :z-twocents:
1.5"
Quote from: MDTOM84 on April 27, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
Here's a bird that I called in for a buddy last season(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170428/ccf576282f9bb7d0593c4fc3fe0898d1.jpg)
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HOLY DAGGERS, BATMAN!!!
My grandson got one with 1.5" spurs last spring. It's the only 1.5" spurs I've ever seen!
Quote from: MDTOM84 on April 27, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
Here's a bird that I called in for a buddy last season(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170428/ccf576282f9bb7d0593c4fc3fe0898d1.jpg)
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Have mercy! I just peed on myself a little!
i have personally killed 159, and only one had spurs that made 1.5, i did call another one up for a friend that had 1 9/16 daggers
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 27, 2017, 01:18:04 PM
For the non believers from my bunch of spurs it's easiest to measure them with a string then measure the string but here's a couple quick ones. The tape measure on the one with no leg bone isn't bent along the spur to measure true length but the other is. If you look at the pic there's four Spurs in there all the same size so here's to pictures to prove ya'll wrong.
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(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh618/TheZombieKilla/image_zpsc7slapik.jpeg) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/TheZombieKilla/media/image_zpsc7slapik.jpeg.html)
no... you just proved us right.
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 28, 2017, 02:26:56 AM
no... you just proved us right.
Either you're blind or you think you're a funny guy. Didn't have time to take pictures of all or really mess with it. The second picture is clearly well over a 1 1/2" and the first including the curve is about the same. Only way to actually prove it to ya would be to use a string ON VIDEO. But like others have said, no need to prove anything to a bunch of Internet turkey slayers that are extremely jealous of my very lucky fortune. In no way am I claiming that these birds make me anywhere near the best hunter as I said most were taken during youth season, with great assistance. So get outta here with your 100+ turkeys killed and go looks at their 1" nubs, or go scratch your nutz, either way I really don't care.
Put the 4" mark on the back of the spur and the tip on 5.5" and prove em wrong then.
I have killed a few, although it's been 10 years or more since I got a true 1.5 incher. I have gotten a few 1.25 inch spurs just this year.
I have also called in two that my brother shot that were legit 1.5 and 1 7/8. Don't remember how to post pics on here.
I have a string of spurs that I only have 1.25 or greater on it.
Don't fret. I'm always dubious of long spur claims because they are relatively rare and, more importantly, it's so common for people to post stating spurs which are very obviously well under are 1.5 or greater.
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 10:39:48 AM
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 28, 2017, 02:26:56 AM
no... you just proved us right.
Either you're blind or you think you're a funny guy. Didn't have time to take pictures of all or really mess with it. The second picture is clearly well over a 1 1/2" and the first including the curve is about the same. Only way to actually prove it to ya would be to use a string ON VIDEO. But like others have said, no need to prove anything to a bunch of Internet turkey slayers that are extremely jealous of my very lucky fortune. In no way am I claiming that these birds make me anywhere near the best hunter as I said most were taken during youth season, with great assistance. So get outta here with your 100+ turkeys killed and go looks at their 1" nubs, or go scratch your nutz, either way I really don't care.
if youll scroll up and look, youll see a turkey I killed with 1 5/8 spurs. way bigger than yours. if you think you make me jealous you are barking up the wrong tree. I still stand by what I said before. you have some solid 1 3/8 spurs, NOT 1 1/2.
Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
Old Gobbler - Where men will argue about whose is bigger by an eight of an inch.
Y'all have a fantastic Friday and glorious weekend. Get some sleep. And some fresh air. Pet a dog for 5 minutes. And stay hydrated.
Even if you are tagged out, go sit in the woods for an hour or 2 and listen to nature come alive. It's good for your soul and will help you remember what's important in life.
Tell someone you love 'em that you forget to tell that to often enough.
Tell one person every day what you appreciate about them.
Peace out.
Quote from: spaightlabs on April 28, 2017, 02:13:53 PM
Old Gobbler - Where men will argue about whose is bigger by an eight of an inch.
Y'all have a fantastic Friday and glorious weekend. Get some sleep. And some fresh air. Pet a dog for 5 minutes. And stay hydrated.
Even if you are tagged out, go sit in the woods for an hour or 2 and listen to nature come alive. It's good for your soul and will help you remember what's important in life.
Tell someone you love 'em that you forget to tell that to often enough.
Tell one person every day what you appreciate about them.
Peace out.
Amen!!
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Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
Dude, relax. For me, your photo measurements are close enough to not argue if they're off 1/16th either way because you just can't tell for certain. As to the article, I've known Brent for a long time, along with about a hundred other outdoor writers. He didn't weight the bird. Someone contacted him and gave him the information. Considering the area you're from, I have no problem believing you killed a 30 pound turkey, but an outdoor writer reporting a weight someone reported to him isn't proof. That's simply offered as FYI rather than to counter your claim. I'm not in a match with you.
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
Solid advice.
Lol I guess my original post was somewhat backed up by what I was referring to all along. Sure there's people who kill gobblers with 1.5" spurs and there's certainly been some proof of that posted in some of the pics above. There's also been the opposite of that. The whole point I was trying to make is there's several folks who say they've killed birds with spurs that long and are so close it's not even funny. Some of them are 1 1/8" or 1 1/4" and they still call them 1 1/2". Congrats to all of you fellas who have killed those beasts pictured above, my personal best is 1 3/8" and 1 5/16" and I'm proud of them! I've also killed a couple longbeards with no spurs at all and my heart was pounding just as heavy when they came strutting to me as it did when the limbhangers did. At any rate the post helped me get through the work week and after today I've got 3 more days to chase Mississippi gobblers until next year. Stay safe and good luck fellas!
2 years ago I killed 1 with 1.5" spurs i thought I'd never top it. 7 days later I killed a double bearded tom that had 1.5" spurs, kick my own butt for not mounting him. Other than that I have 1 with 13/8 and a few with 1.25. I've called in 1 other with 1.5 that a buddy killed
The only one I've ever killed with spurs that big, biggest gobbler I've killed to date. Got him mounted.
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Bingo
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
alright guy... you win... im done... but now let me give you some advise. do not become a carpenter. you would be a very poor carpenter.
I don't care who ya are, that's pretty good. :z-guntootsmiley:
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 03:01:22 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
alright guy... you win... im done... but now let me give you some advise. do not become a carpenter. you would be a very poor carpenter.
Back to your comedian routine ehh... You got some solid jokes, put as much effort into turkey hunting as you do trolling the Internet you'd probably have some quality kills. :fud:
And reference your 1 5/8" bird again, I'll simply tell you every blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 03:01:22 AMalright guy... you win... im done... but now let me give you some advise. do not become a carpenter. you would be a very poor carpenter.
:TooFunny:
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 29, 2017, 07:13:13 AM
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 03:01:22 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
alright guy... you win... im done... but now let me give you some advise. do not become a carpenter. you would be a very poor carpenter.
Back to your comedian routine ehh... You got some solid jokes, put as much effort into turkey hunting as you do trolling the Internet you'd probably have some quality kills. :fud:
And reference your 1 5/8" bird again, I'll simply tell you every blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.
heres my quality kills from last year
heres a pic of a bird with 1 7/16 spurs. why not call it 1 1/2. because I don't give something credit it dosent deserve.
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 08:57:23 AM
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Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
alright guy... you win... im done... but now let me give you some advise. do not become a carpenter. you would be a very poor carpenter.
Back to your comedian routine ehh... You got some solid jokes, put as much effort into turkey hunting as you do trolling the Internet you'd probably have some quality kills. :fud:
And reference your 1 5/8" bird again, I'll simply tell you every blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.
heres my quality kills from last year
If the Dept of conservation had a behavioral analysis unit, I think you would make a great study.
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 08:57:23 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 29, 2017, 07:13:13 AM
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 03:01:22 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
alright guy... you win... im done... but now let me give you some advise. do not become a carpenter. you would be a very poor carpenter.
Back to your comedian routine ehh... You got some solid jokes, put as much effort into turkey hunting as you do trolling the Internet you'd probably have some quality kills. :fud:
And reference your 1 5/8" bird again, I'll simply tell you every blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.
heres my quality kills from last year
Now ya just look like a future serial killer.
It puts the lotion on its skin... :toothy12:
All the petty bickering aside, I've got two words for everybody,....GENETICS and SUBSPECIES. Both play a major role in whether a guy routinely shoots birds with long spurs, long beards, or multiple beards. If anybody wants to compare trophy characteristics of their gobblers, the only true comparison is by seeing how your birds stand up to the "average" gobbler taken from the region you hunt.
There are places where a guy can hunt his entire life and never even have the opportunity to HUNT a gobbler with 1.5 inch spurs (or whatever your magic number is), much less kill one. Same with beard characteristics.
And another thing, it is glaringly apparent that a very high percentage of folks do not have a clue as to how to properly measure spur length (those of you who do, please do not take offense,...I am just pointing out the obvious). Anyone that wants to discuss spur length with me has to first show me that he knows how to properly measure them. Far too many people don't.
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Quote from: GobbleNut on April 29, 2017, 09:40:01 AM
All the petty bickering aside, I've got two words for everybody,....GENETICS and SUBSPECIES.
And I've got two words for you, and its not genetics and subspecies. ;D
And by the way, that's three words you goober.
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Quote from: GobbleNut on April 29, 2017, 09:40:01 AM
All the petty bickering aside, I've got two words for everybody,....GENETICS and SUBSPECIES.
And I've got two words for you, and its not genetics and subspecies. ;D
And by the way, that's three words you goober.
Takes one to know one,...YaGoob....
...Okay, so I don't count so good....you shouldn't make fun of the mathematically challenged. Gazintas were just being discovered back in my day... ;D
Hunt on the Cape Fear River in central N.C. and have killed several over 1 1/4". Near end of season in 1913, I finally got one that had eluded me for some time. He weighed 19.4, had an 11 1/4 beard, and spurs of 1 5/8" and 1 9/16". Posted picture in the local paper. Think there are others of 1.5" on that river but most time when they get that big/old they hard to hunt and wiser than we give them credit.
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 08:57:23 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 29, 2017, 07:13:13 AM
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 29, 2017, 03:01:22 AM
Quote from: HookedonHooks on April 28, 2017, 02:00:11 PM
Since you're turning this into a pissing match... Check out that article above of my 30lb turkey. You don't have to believe me that I've killed four birds with 1 1/2" spurs at the ripe young age of 21. But one things for certain I highly doubt you've ever killed a bird bigger than that. His hooks were one of those birds with 1 1/2" plus and had an 11 1/2 inch beard. So go ahead and shut your mouth, before you continue to make a fool of yourself in front of the whole internet.
alright guy... you win... im done... but now let me give you some advise. do not become a carpenter. you would be a very poor carpenter.
Back to your comedian routine ehh... You got some solid jokes, put as much effort into turkey hunting as you do trolling the Internet you'd probably have some quality kills. :fud:
And reference your 1 5/8" bird again, I'll simply tell you every blind squirrel finds a nut eventually.
heres my quality kills from last year
remind me to stay on your good side, that is really something
Quote from: Uncle Tom on April 29, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
Hunt on the Cape Fear River in central N.C. and have killed several over 1 1/4". Near end of season in 1913, I finally got one that had eluded me for some time. He weighed 19.4, had an 11 1/4 beard, and spurs of 1 5/8" and 1 9/16". Posted picture in the local paper. Think there are others of 1.5" on that river but most time when they get that big/old they hard to hunt and wiser than we give them credit.
1913? I bet the pictures were in black and white. Congrats on the stud of a bird.
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Quote from: Uncle Tom on April 29, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
Hunt on the Cape Fear River in central N.C. and have killed several over 1 1/4". Near end of season in 1913, I finally got one that had eluded me for some time. He weighed 19.4, had an 11 1/4 beard, and spurs of 1 5/8" and 1 9/16". Posted picture in the local paper. Think there are others of 1.5" on that river but most time when they get that big/old they hard to hunt and wiser than we give them credit.
1913? I bet the pictures were in black and white. Congrats on the stud of a bird.
Damn,...somebody on here older than me! I don't think I killed my first bird until around 1915. :toothy12:
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Know I am getting on up there, but not that old....meant to say 2013...now that I look back it does not seem like 4 years ago. Find that the older you get the more you look forward to chasing those ole boys and the ones that gives you the slip you never forget.
I think you've had it right Treerooster, but what do I know.
Maybe we should elect a measuring panel (similar to B&C or P&Y). You can make all the spur or beard length claims you want up to 1 1/4" and 10 1/2", respectively. Anything above and beyond must be submitted to the panel for confirmation before any claims of measurements are allowed. Proof including photos, video, and up to actual physical evidence must be submitted for the panel to review. Just add "Measurements awaiting panel confirmation" to your post. Afterwards you can only post the measurements if you state that they have been panel approved. I'm sure we can come up with a cool acronym for the panel. ;D
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Quote from: guesswho on April 29, 2017, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Uncle Tom on April 29, 2017, 12:20:42 PM
Hunt on the Cape Fear River in central N.C. and have killed several over 1 1/4". Near end of season in 1913, I finally got one that had eluded me for some time. He weighed 19.4, had an 11 1/4 beard, and spurs of 1 5/8" and 1 9/16". Posted picture in the local paper. Think there are others of 1.5" on that river but most time when they get that big/old they hard to hunt and wiser than we give them credit.
1913? I bet the pictures were in black and white. Congrats on the stud of a bird.
Damn,...somebody on here older than me! I don't think I killed my first bird until around 1915. :toothy12:
1915!!!!! wow man, hats off to you for staying after em. im sure we could all learn a thing or two from you brother. as for everyones references to my photo with the 9 gobbler heads. I was trying to come up with a photo for a cool photo contest on another site. I quickly realized this photo was not cool at all and submitted another entry.
Quote from: Treerooster on April 30, 2017, 12:24:24 AM
Boy do I feel like a schmuck. I have been measuring my trophies all wrong.
I thought it was how the bird came in. The exchange of turkey talk...the gobbling..the drumming. The intensity of having a gobbler walk past you from behind and the need to let him get out there a bit before you can shoot him.
What a fool I am. And it should have been so obvious to me...you can't put a number on that stuff.
Well now you know, Gary. All that stuff is meaningless. It is all about who's is biggest! You obviously need an attitude adjustment. ;D :toothy9: :newmascot:
Always have been 1.5" short
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Quote from: Treerooster on April 30, 2017, 12:24:24 AM
Boy do I feel like a schmuck.
Well you should feel ike a schmuck if you think my post in any way takes away from all that.
Two birds standing side by side at 20 yards. You can clearly see both of their Spurs. One looks to be twice as long as the other. Which do you shoot?
I think the majority of us don't turkey hunt or measure a hunts success by beard and spur length. But it sure is nice to walk up on a long spurred gobbler. And if given a choice I'm sure most if not all of us would choose to shoot the longer spurred bird. But wouldn't be disappointed with a hard gobblin short spurred gobbler either.
The topic was just about how rare 1 1/2" Spurs are.
Got some nice hooks and still one leg banded old timer that shows up on the trail cams, I still always go with 'never pass on a bird on the opener that you'd be happy with on the last day...'
Some of my best memories are of birds that didn't have much for spurs or beards...
First bird I shot was a jake with a sprout of a beard and nub spurs. It was 40 degrees out and pouring rain and we were hunting in the open hiding behind some logs. Once he heard our calling he came sprinting across a 3/4 mile wide cornfield from the cottonwoods on the other side. Got to a 4 strand barbed wire fence and held there at 60 yards for what seemed like hours. finally came through the fence and slid in to 20 yards. I will never ever forget that hunt.
Quote from: guesswho on April 30, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
Two birds standing side by side at 20 yards. You can clearly see both of their Spurs. One looks to be twice as long as the other. Which do you shoot?
I think the majority of us don't turkey hunt or measure a hunts success by beard and spur length. But it sure is nice to walk up on a long spurred gobbler. And if given a choice I'm sure most if not all of us would choose to shoot the longer spurred bird. But wouldn't be disappointed with a hard gobblin short spurred gobbler either.
The topic was just about how rare 1 1/2" Spurs are.
They are very rare in my opinion. It takes age, genetics, and luck. My chance of killing one out here is pretty stinking slim, but I'm ok with that. Full fan, strut, gobble....im shooting, but I'm like everyone else and will shoot the longer spurred bird.
Quote from: guesswho on April 30, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
Two birds standing side by side at 20 yards. You can clearly see both of their Spurs. One looks to be twice as long as the other. Which do you shoot?
I think the majority of us don't turkey hunt or measure a hunts success by beard and spur length. But it sure is nice to walk up on a long spurred gobbler. And if given a choice I'm sure most if not all of us would choose to shoot the longer spurred bird. But wouldn't be disappointed with a hard gobblin short spurred gobbler either.
The topic was just about how rare 1 1/2" Spurs are.
Agreed
I have 1 bird that I "Knew" and had seen he spurs before I killed him while I was scouting him, he has a story behind the day I killed him and was one of my most memorable hunts. I have a lot of "Favorite" hunts under different reasons but for the most part long spurs just happen. I see a longbeard and a full fan and I am squeezing a trigger, when I get to that bird sometime I get "Oh he's got some Spurs"
I keep them on a Spur Chain I call my "Top Ten List" and change them out if there is a better than one of them.
Here's my current "Top Ten" spurs
And my bird "HOOK"
MK M GOBL
Man you have killed s bunch of ivory spurs! They are pretty rare here.
Quote from: Blong on April 30, 2017, 08:10:43 PM
Man you have killed s bunch of ivory spurs! They are pretty rare here.
Genetics, they have all came off the same farm. When I killed the first one I called him the "Ghost Gobbler" killed him on the 3rd day of hunting him. He is the 3rd set back from center. The other 3 sets on top of chain (Set 8, 9 &10) all came from that same farm. There are also 3 others on that chain that came from another farm (Set 4, 6 & 7) and the last 3 (Set 1, 2 & 5) are from all different farms.
MK M GOBL
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I will see if this pic works out. If so, a few of these are 1.5 and above. It is next to one of my other strings for comparison. The one string is all 1.25 or better.
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb403/fullstrut2/1367235599081.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/fullstrut2/media/1367235599081.jpg.html)
And here's a monster I called in with my brother.
Dude, you got a few crazy good looking ivory spurs in there that I'm incredibly jealous of.
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I will see if this pic works out. If so, a few of these are 1.5 and above. It is next to one of my other strings for comparison. The one string is all 1.25 or better.
Nice collection. It certainly points to the problem with spur photos and especially so when there's really nothing of known size provided for comparison. Now, I'm not at all saying the bottom string is anything other than what you say, but had you just popped up a photo I would guess most in the 1-1.125 range.
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Quote from: Hooksfan on May 01, 2017, 10:29:06 AM
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I will see if this pic works out. If so, a few of these are 1.5 and above. It is next to one of my other strings for comparison. The one string is all 1.25 or better.
Nice collection. It certainly points to the problem with spur photos and especially so when there's really nothing of known size provided for comparison. Now, I'm not at all saying the bottom string is anything other than what you say, but had you just popped up a photo I would guess most in the 1-1.125 range.
It is hard to tell from a photo. The one on the very bottom with the scales still attached is actually abiut 1/32nd longer than the one my brother shot in thst second pic. I believe it is possible to tell in that second pic that the spurs are well beyind 1.5. My best bird to date.
I would say how many birds it takes to produce that string, bit nothing turns me off more than folks posting how many they killed.