https://www.outdoorhub.com/news/2017/04/20/must-see-live-video-man-gets-shot-behind-another-turkey-hunter/
Absolutey unbelievable.
Crazy
I'd be beating someone to death I think.
I can't image shooting at just a fan and hoping it kills a gobbler...was he pretending to be a gobbler with a turkey fan on his butt?
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Crazy indeed!
WTF is wrong with people. Crazy
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Ouch. Total retardation.
Or how about this incident that took place in Kansas a week and a half ago, titled:
"Turns out, the turkey hunters were stalking each other. Then one of them fired"
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/outdoors/article145929249.html#storylink=cpy
I've watched this 20+ times on the laptop - with the video on full screen...
Obviously we don't see or hear what transpired before the video as far as sounds or movement - but what is shown prior to & during the shot is disturbing to say the least!
The fan on the ground was already on the ground out of sight - no movement. In fact, no movement at ALL from the hunters in the blind. The shooter was obviously taking a "sound shot" at what he must have heard (them calling?).
The shooter fired into a log jam hoping to kill the turkey he heard and / or "thought" he saw in there. Again - ZERO movement that would have triggered the shot.
ZERO target identification. None.
It appears as if the projectile(s) went between the the two seated hunters - striking the hunter to the left in or around his left buttocks area. Hard to tell distance, but it does not appear to be the pattern of a shot shell? Could be, I guess - if the distance is 20 yds or less??
You would think pellets would have struck both hunter? Caused bark and dirt to fly?
The other VERY disturbing issue - the shooter does not appear to acknowledge what just happened, stand up to acknowledge the other hunters, or rush to render aid?? Thank goodness the wound was not worse.
Having investigated numerous hunting related shooting incidents... this one leaves me scratching my head! (and angry).
He should loose his hunting licence and privileges ....glad the guy wasn't hurt worst...stupid
I think in the earlier "REAPING" thread someone mentioned that your mind will tell you that you are seeing what ever you want to see, let alone someone calling like a turkey and hiding behind a real fan. Not sure what the shooters could see but it wasn't a turkey for sure when they pulled the trigger and could have been MUCH MUCH WORSE! Wish we could see what was gong on a little more prior to the shot. I had actually thought about getting a replacement artificial fan and painting outside rim orange to keep folded up in my turkey vest to fan a stubborn gobbler at last resort BUT FORGET THAT IDEA !!!
Quote from: Tom Foolery on April 22, 2017, 04:51:41 PM
I'd be beating someone to death I think.
I'd have been tempted to shoot back...
And what the heck was the shooter shooting at? The fan was folded up on the ground face down in the grass before the shot was fired. For someone having good enough eyesight to spot that and not realize "somethin' ain't right," seems more than odd.
The same guys posted a better quality video on Youtube; also shows a bit more prior to and after the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A8aWRvece8
As I have said too many times before, "the human capacity for stupidity never ceases to amaze, surprise, and disappoint me."
Taking into consideration the shot placement as compared to the fan (lying in the dirt), I have to wonder what it was the shooter saw that looked "turkey" to him?
Could this be a made up video...it almost looks like a girl under the mask that's acting like she was shot...
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 23, 2017, 12:51:24 AM
Could this be a made up video...it almost looks like a girl under the mask that's acting like she was shot...
If that is a lady, it is one big gal, sittin' next to a real small guy.
The whole set of circumstances behind this seem staged to me as well... Tough to believe someone could be that stupid and still capable of loading the gun in the first place...
If it was staged, they did a fairly elaborate job of it though... If you look at the video on Youtube, you can see that that seat cusion moved (on the guy that got hit) when the shot was fired. If it was staged, it had to be electronically linked, or very good timing.
I posted the Youtube link above, but here it is again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A8aWRvece8
I had a jake decoy shot once. Set up in the dark and spotted the guys just before they saw my decoy. Put the tree between us right before they shot. Happened fast. Made me a believer that anything can happen and things can turn bad in a hurry.
I'm just wondering where all the posts are where the guy deserves it and it was bound to happen?
After seeing the longer video I am even more confused. The victim was not moving anything but his head for 2 min and 10 sec's of the video but had just hen called not gobble. The person next to him did have black on the bottom on the vest cushion but doesn't look like that was visible. The shooter probably couldn't see much as you can see them walk up yards behind the fence. I wunder if they did "fan" earlier and if there was a gobbler that they were calling to. They were real tense, looking in same direction with guns shouldered in the first min of the video. Just mind boggling that someone would pull the trigger at an unknown target, victims appear to do NOTHING to make it a dangerous situation. Would like to know the shooters experience but again all are lucky it wasn't much worse.
Sounds like a rifle to me. You can also see where the shooter was, there is a puff of smoke over the victim's shoulder in the tree line/blowdown behind him. Not sure if this is staged or not, looks like he was truly hit as you can see his pants move where the possible projectile hits him. Crazy...
I think it's people trying to make money on youtube...just doesn't look right...you think that shot would only hit one person at that distance , i think it's all made up...you never see any dust on the ground from the shot..
Wow!
Here are some comments posted by the fellow that put up the video.
"In this particular incident we are calling to 2 gobblers that are located in front of us when somebody sneaks in behind us and shoots through us."
"Yeah it hit alot of calls and stuff in my vest pockets before it hit me?"
"No they shot my Jake decoy about 23 yards in front of us?"
If it is staged, it is pretty carefully done. But it does seem very odd that several shot hit that one spot and nowhere else. I would expect a lot of dirt and debris to be kicked up. There doesn't seem to be any official report of this incident anywhere.
Yea, I don't know. I would think there would be more yelling and commotion from everyone. Camera man doesn't really do anything or seemed alarmed, also why was the video cut short at the end? Also find it hard to believe none of the shot spread didn't hit the guy next to him..
Staged or not it raises awareness which is good. I had some guy walk up behind my blind the other day. I think he was planning to use it until he saw my decoys. You just never know. We all need to practice defensive hunting!
Disturbing all around.
Perhaps i can lend some perspective. I was shot while turkey hunting and wounded with life threatening injuries. I was standing still had just called and wham I felt something hit me hard (I was actually shot with a broadhead). It only took a moment to realize I was shot. I yelled out, "you shot me" and then fell to the ground, bleeding profusely. There was no screaming and blaming or arguing, when your dieing you don't give a dam about why, but just trying to survive. The man who shot me heard the call and saw what he was sure was a turkeys back, it turned out to be a dark patch of my camouflage on the back of my thigh. I was shot through the upper thigh. The mind does convince us we are seeing what we want. It is a matter of discipline to wait and make sure of what you are seeing. This was fall season so it would have been legal to shoot any turkey. All the guy could do was repeated say, What have I done, what have I done...... I told him to quit sniveling and help me out. It was almost a mile to the truck. He did and begged for forgiveness. You see he had hunted for 50 years and never envisioned how he could have done such a thing. Don't ever think it can't happen, just always make sure, take zero chances.Always know what you are shooting beyond a doubt. I did forgive the man who shot me, but I don't think he ever forgave himself. It is a horrible experience and the only comments that are necessary are, we should all learn from this and do all we can to make sure our sport is safe. I fully believe anyone who is a perpetrator in a hunting incident should lose their hunting privileges for the rest of their life!
Quote from: eggshell on April 23, 2017, 03:21:59 PM
Perhaps i can lend some perspective. I was shot while turkey hunting and wounded with life threatening injuries. I was standing still had just called and wham I felt something hit me hard (I was actually shot with a broadhead). It only took a moment to realize I was shot. I yelled out, "you shot me" and then fell to the ground, bleeding profusely. There was no screaming and blaming or arguing, when your dieing you don't give a dam about why, but just trying to survive. The man who shot me heard the call and saw what he was sure was a turkeys back, it turned out to be a dark patch of my camouflage on the back of my thigh. I was shot through the upper thigh. The mind does convince us we are seeing what we want. It is a matter of discipline to wait and make sure of what you are seeing. This was fall season so it would have been legal to shoot any turkey. All the guy could do was repeated say, What have I done, what have I done...... I told him to quit sniveling and help me out. It was almost a mile to the truck. He did and begged for forgiveness. You see he had hunted for 50 years and never envisioned how he could have done such a thing. Don't ever think it can't happen, just always make sure, take zero chances.Always know what you are shooting beyond a doubt. I did forgive the man who shot me, but I don't think he ever forgave himself. It is a horrible experience and the only comments that are necessary are, we should all learn from this and do all we can to make sure our sport is safe. I fully believe anyone who is a perpetrator in a hunting incident should lose their hunting privileges for the rest of their life!
So sorry you were shot...but i'm so glad you lived to tell about it...
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 23, 2017, 12:51:24 AM
Could this be a made up video...
I wondered the same thing. Isn't the action on the gun of the guy that was shot open? The guy behind the camera sure wasn't reacting like they were taking on fire either.
Quote from: fallsflight on April 23, 2017, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 23, 2017, 12:51:24 AM
Could this be a made up video...
I wondered the same thing. Isn't the action on the gun of the guy that was shot open? The guy behind the camera sure wasn't reacting like they were taking on fire either.
Good catch. Yeah, the forearm is back and the action is open. Real fishy.
I don't think that the report from the gun was a rifle, sounded like a shotgun to me. I have been shot at from about 75 yards or so with a shotgun that had a double extra full choke and it peppered everything within a 10-20 foot diameter around me. By the looks of the distance in the video, which is hard to tell, the guy beside the guy that was shot should have also been hit and possibly the camera man. The other thing that I noticed, I didn't hear the peppering that should have happened, hitting the logs, camera equipment etc. There is something that falls to the ground between the two hunters after the guys reacts but I can't tell what it is. The other curious thing that I notice is that the guy who was shot almost leans in the direction to conceal what is going on behind him.
Quote from: fallsflight on April 23, 2017, 03:57:59 PM
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 23, 2017, 12:51:24 AM
Could this be a made up video...
I wondered the same thing. Isn't the action on the gun of the guy that was shot open? The guy behind the camera sure wasn't reacting like they were taking on fire either.
Yeah... The camera guy's reaction is that of complete boredom or apathy it seems...
Good catch on the action of the gun. That seems fishy to me...
I also have a story of someone being shot. My father was shot while quail hunting... My father was extremely calm (and in some shock), and when I arrived to him, I was quietly determined, and started treating wounds, while the shooter called 911; nobody ran around waving their arms, and nobody yelled out or anything. The guy who shot him was in shock as well... But nobody was a apathetic as that camera man in the video.
I was wood duck hunting during our early phase about 15 years ago. There were lots of people around, but we got in a good spot where we had a good field of view and no lights around us. Only had about 30 yards between us and a pretty solid wall of cypress trees behind us. We had started shooting and wounded one behind us. I turned and finished it on the water. We went back to hunting. About 10 minutes later we hear a shot, right behind us, right where I had just finished a cripple. Scared me to death. I immediately walked back there and the guy had been there since before daylight. He had seen out lights and admitted he had moved in without lights. I asked if I peppered him and he said no. I told him he was insane to be 50 yards away from another hunter and not call out or shine his light to let us know he was there. I did not even shoot the guy but was upset enough I stopped hunting.
I agree this is fishy. If someone shoots me, my reaction will be more animated. If they shoot someone I am with, all my inclination will be to return fire, I hope I can control that if it ever happens. If this is real and they were shooting at a jake decoy in front of them, I see no way it would not have hit at least his outside, or no one. Would like to know if it is real.
Some more info: https://www.facebook.com/9NewsSydney/posts/461724684173233
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/world/watch-hunter-shoots-camouflaged-brother-friend-mistaking-them-turkeys
It looks like the wad hit the guys leg. I've not watched any other video of it. The guy who got shot with the bow has one hell of a story. This has been my point the whole time....you don't have to use a fan and even sounding like a hen in the Spring gets you shot. Isn't Spring "gobbler" season?
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A jake decoy out front makes some sense as to what the shooter saw but seems that in the 2 news articles g8rvet posted 2 diffferent accidents were combined into 1 story. One was the Kansas brothers reaping each other story and the other this youtube video?
I agree, there was definitely no face shot in that video.
I tried google search and did not come up with much else.
the most unbelieveable thing to me is that you guys believe this garbage. looks 100% staged to me.
Quote from: appalachianassassin on April 23, 2017, 06:59:02 PM
the most unbelieveable thing to me is that you guys believe this garbage. looks 100% staged to me.
I'm glad some one agree's with me...
One things for sure, the guys calling is horrible
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I suspect this was staged, but as some replies have stated, it happens all too often in real life. I believe the psychological term is "premature closure". Your brain takes an incomplete set of facts and fills in the blanks. I have, more than once, "seen" game that turns out to be nothing more than a piece of the landscape. The point is to exercise discipline and hold your fire until there is no doubt as to your target.
Whether staged or not, the take-away for all turkey hunters is to be extra careful out there. Remember, we're all wearing highly effective camo which makes it extremely difficult for turkeys and other hunters to see us and vice versa. On top of that, some of us are employing life-like decoys and/or tail fans. Never assume that you are the only hunter working that gobbler (even when hunting private land) and try to think defensively when setting up. Always go through your safety checklist before pulling that trigger. Never forget that shooting any weapon is serious business with potentially lethal consequences to your fellow hunters.
I hope everyone has a safe and successful season.
Latest Spring Thunder video on YouTube discusses this video and interviews the hunters. It's the May 1st video.
Quote from: akp on May 01, 2017, 11:07:15 AM
Latest Spring Thunder video on YouTube discusses this video and interviews the hunters. It's the May 1st video.
Yep. Crazy that it was a .243 not a shotgun...
It just blows me away that states allow rifles but maybe their data is different than my perception :z-guntootsmiley: :newmascot:
Good reminder to be extra careful this season
What a moron!! Who the heck takes a shot like that? YOU ALWAYS POSITIVELY ID YOUR TARGET AND WHATS BEHIND IT BEFORE YOU SHOOT!!! Idiots like this give us responsible hunters a bad name!!!
Quote from: akp on May 01, 2017, 11:07:15 AM
Latest Spring Thunder video on YouTube discusses this video and interviews the hunters. It's the May 1st video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-465w_gc1_Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-465w_gc1_Y)
Crazy and this was in what appears to be a wide open field!
I didn't catch it the first time but apparently it ricocheted off a fence post as they were shooting at the jake decoy.... if I understood correctly. Things can go bad in a hurry.
I hunted WV where rifles were allowed years back, put out some decoys then saw a guy riding an atv on the next ridge stop and shoot to the next ridge. I pulled my dekes and they stayed at camp after that. A rifle round ricocheted off a fence post makes sense to the scene. Shooter either blind or GROSSLY NEGLIGENT and one VERY LUCKY VICTIM! I vote "REAL" IMO, will share scenario in hunter safety classes.