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Title: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: Farmboy27 on April 17, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Well my first (and maybe only) merriams hunt is in the books. First the good part. My friend and I both killed 2 gobblers. We had a blast on the trip out remembering old times and past hunts and checking out the scenery. Now the bad.  We went through an outfitter on a self-guided hunt. Well, the outfitter had us hunting on a property 2 hours away from the lodging. When we booked the hunt he told me that some of his leases were about a 30 minute drive away and ask if we were ok with that. I don't consider 78 miles on back roads a 30 minute drive!  The property he put us on was 15000 acres (so he said). Problem was the only habitat was on the extreme east and west borders. The birds roosted there and then flew down onto the next property.  The outfitter said "you'll just have to ambush them in the evening". What the heck do we do the rest of the day?!!  Long story short, we got our birds (although I can't really say I enjoyed the "hunting" that much. Now I get home and the taxidermist I took my bird too says it's too shot up to mount. This bird was 35 yards and there wasn't more than 5 feathers on the ground when it was over.   The bird was a bit damp from being in the cooler and he kept pointing and picking at spots saying no way, I can't fix this. So I'm not sure what I'm doing with the bird yet(my other one was shot up pretty bad below the neck). Over all I don't regret going. I got to see lots of really interesting things. But the 78 mile drive to hunt each morning and the fact that the property we were put on only held roosting birds kind of put a dampener on the experience. Get back to find out I can't mount the bird is really a kick in the pants. But hey, at least I got my birds!
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: g8rvet on April 17, 2017, 08:35:29 PM
You made the best of a bad situation and got some results.  Great job. 

I had a similar experience with a duck lease and a dishonest ex-lawyer, who at least I get the satisfaction is now in jail (for other nefarious activity). 

It is all a crap shoot and I want to go out west to hunt, but I worry.  Took my Dad on a pronghorn hunt that was awesome though.   
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: HawkeyeGobbler on April 17, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
Quote from: Farmboy27 on April 17, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Well my first (and maybe only) merriams hunt is in the books. First the good part. My friend and I both killed 2 gobblers. We had a blast on the trip out remembering old times and past hunts and checking out the scenery. Now the bad.  We went through an outfitter on a self-guided hunt. Well, the outfitter had us hunting on a property 2 hours away from the lodging. When we booked the hunt he told me that some of his leases were about a 30 minute drive away and ask if we were ok with that. I don't consider 78 miles on back roads a 30 minute drive!  The property he put us on was 15000 acres (so he said). Problem was the only habitat was on the extreme east and west borders. The birds roosted there and then flew down onto the next property.  The outfitter said "you'll just have to ambush them in the evening". What the heck do we do the rest of the day?!!  Long story short, we got our birds (although I can't really say I enjoyed the "hunting" that much. Now I get home and the taxidermist I took my bird too says it's too shot up to mount. This bird was 35 yards and there wasn't more than 5 feathers on the ground when it was over.   The bird was a bit damp from being in the cooler and he kept pointing and picking at spots saying no way, I can't fix this. So I'm not sure what I'm doing with the bird yet(my other one was shot up pretty bad below the neck). Over all I don't regret going. I got to see lots of really interesting things. But the 78 mile drive to hunt each morning and the fact that the property we were put on only held roosting birds kind of put a dampener on the experience. Get back to find out I can't mount the bird is really a kick in the pants. But hey, at least I got my birds!

Speaking to the non-mountable issue, have you got a second opinion? or is the bird still in 1 piece? Reason I ask is I have had a couple real ratty critters get mounted and they turned out well. Not sure about how they'l hold up over the coming years but at least when I got them up til now they look totally great. On one of them I had a taxi say no way, I had another take a look and he said he'd seen worse and felt okay about trying it. Some taxi's have enough business to keep their bills paid they can get kinda funny on what they will or won't do. Their right completely, if it's too time consuming or out of their comfort zone it's safer for them to pass on it, rather than do a poor job and risk you trashing their name.

If you are dead set on a mount I would honestly seek at least 1 or 2 other opinions. If you don't care what happens, I say let someone just starting out take a whack at it for experience, if nothing else even if they really butcher it you can at least probably save the fan and beard.
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: SteelerFan on April 17, 2017, 08:56:26 PM
Well...

Congrats on the scenery, commaraderie, and dead birds!!

That stinks about the actual hunt set-up, and all...

Maybe a nice fan / beard / grip & grin 11"x14" photo display??
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: MK M GOBL on April 17, 2017, 09:27:55 PM
Wish this is where there was an Outfitter Review Section, unless I have missed this on here...

Congrats and making the best out of a bad situation, I would ask around about the mount. Some taxidermists will not take some work as it show "poor" of their work if they thought it might not turn out to their standard...

MK M GOBL
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: Farmboy27 on April 17, 2017, 09:40:42 PM
I'm gonna get a "second opinion" on the bird from another taxidermist or two. I'm kind of thinking that the one I went to is busy and doesn't want to spend any time on less than perfect specimens!  I've had animals mounted by him before but the last 2 (a buck I shot 2 years ago and my sons buck last year) he acted like he was doing to much "extra work" to mount them. Mine because it was shot in the neck with a rifle and my boys because it had a broadhead hole in the chest. I'm just thinking "come on!  If it wouldn't be for that damage, then the animal wouldn't be in your shop!"
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: renegade19 on April 17, 2017, 09:50:32 PM
Congrats on the birds,  bummer on the rest. 
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: g8rvet on April 18, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: Farmboy27 on April 17, 2017, 09:40:42 PM
I'm just thinking "come on!  If it wouldn't be for that damage, then the animal wouldn't be in your shop!"

Dear Farmboy27,

In the future, please follow game animals around until they die of natural causes.

Sincerely,
Your (soon to be ex) taxidermist
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: ILHUNTER on April 18, 2017, 02:07:57 PM
Congrats on making the best out of the situation.  I too would get another opinion on mounting the bird.  My taxidermist's is good at fixing bare spots, even a whole neck that is blew up and stripped of feathers can be fixed.
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: hobbes on April 18, 2017, 02:11:54 PM
Find someone that specializes in turkeys and they can mount it.  There are a lot of taxidermists that suck at turkeys no matter what their condition. 

Too bad on the outfitter.  An outfitter isn't really needed for Merriam's.  They are too readily accessible on public land.
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: HookedonHooks on April 18, 2017, 02:37:37 PM
Congrats! Way to atleast make the best of it, a nice tail fan display with beard, spurs, and a picture always looks nice.
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: Farmboy27 on April 18, 2017, 04:20:59 PM
Quote from: g8rvet on April 18, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: Farmboy27 on April 17, 2017, 09:40:42 PM
I'm just thinking "come on!  If it wouldn't be for that damage, then the animal wouldn't be in your shop!"

Dear Farmboy27,

In the future, please follow game animals around until they die of natural causes.

Sincerely,
Your (soon to be ex) taxidermist
Lol! Now that's funny! 
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: OkatieHunter on April 18, 2017, 04:53:29 PM
I hate that you had that experience. I have had great experiences in Wyoming and SD hunting Merriams and am going to ID this year. I love hunting out west!
Title: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: WNCTracker on April 18, 2017, 06:01:32 PM
I have never hunted turkeys out west, but would really like to sometime. Congrats farmboy on your success despite the challenges. Just curious though..., what's a ball park merriams hunt go for all in?


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Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: LI Outdoorsman on April 18, 2017, 06:36:03 PM
Despite being kind of a pain I guess you both filling your tags on a DIY hunt cant be all bad..As far as the busted up birds...S&%T happens...Try using smaller shot and not letting them get too close where they get the full pattern..but thats a tough call..usually a decent taxidermist can work around beat up birds,,but some are very meticulous and feel the final product represents their work so they only want birds in primo condition.
Congrats on getting your Merriams!
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: mtns2hunt on April 18, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
The kind of experience you had really puts a damper on the hunt and future memories. A good taxidermist that is willing to put in the time can fix your bird. They frequently take donor parts from other carcasses to repair damage. Sounds like your taxidermist did not want to do extra work. Glad mine is not like that. There should be some good recommendations on this forum for taxidermists. You should also put a nome to the outfitter so others don't get caught in the same situation. Same for the Good outfitter: let us know who he is and how to get his contact information. There are too many ripoffs out there we are better off avoiding.
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: Farmboy27 on April 18, 2017, 08:27:10 PM
Thanks for all the congrats fellas!  I'll let ya know how the taxidermist search goes. Anything wanting to know who the outfitter was can PM me. I'll gladly tell ya, but I don't feel it's right to openly post it on this forum.
Title: Re: Merriams success and disappointment
Post by: Marc on April 18, 2017, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Farmboy27 on April 18, 2017, 08:27:10 PM
Thanks for all the congrats fellas!  I'll let ya know how the taxidermist search goes. Anything wanting to know who the outfitter was can PM me. I'll gladly tell ya, but I don't feel it's right to openly post it on this forum.
Out of curiosity was the bird hit in the body hard?  Many, if not most taxidermist these days use an artificial head for turkeys anyways...

PM me if you want, and I can send you a list of taxidermists that are popular on the duck hunting forums I visit...