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Title: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Va limbhanger on April 16, 2017, 12:58:16 PM
I've never been able to purr using a mouth call unless I use my lips. I don't think it sounds as real as you guys who flutter your tongue.
I can easily flutter my tongue also, but without the mouth call in.
I'm thinking that regular sized calls ( tried about all brands and cuts) are not letting the call go high enough and that's why I can't make the flutter with the call in place.
I'd really love to be able to purr with a mouth call instead of relying on a pot call, especially when the Tom comes into sight.
I've ordered a few "small frame" mouth calls (wood haven) just to see if this will help.
Anyone else have this problem and used a small frame call to fix it?
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Marc on April 16, 2017, 01:30:38 PM
If you can flutter your tongue, move the call back further in your throat when you try to purr...

I can flutter my tongue quite easily but could not purr to save my life.  Until I moved the call back further towards my throat (away from my teeth).  It is not comfortable at first, and I cannot yelp with the call that far back, but I can still cluck.

Also relax your checks and let your lips flutter... 

So, find an easy call to blow, move the call back, relax your lips and cheeks while you flutter your tongue.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Va limbhanger on April 16, 2017, 04:35:46 PM
I'll give that a try, thanks.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Gobble Nole on April 16, 2017, 09:35:21 PM
Buy a Primos Limbhanger call. 

Super simple mouth call and easy to learn how to purr on...

Purring on a mouth call is much easier with soft tape, the limb hanger is the best in my opinion for soft calling and over all turkey finishing sounds. 
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Va limbhanger on April 17, 2017, 06:53:01 AM
I wasn't aware that the limbhanger was still around. That was my favorite diaphragm call several years back. It has the brown tape I think?
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: MK M GOBL on April 17, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
Have you tried the "Gargle" method? Easiest way for me to purr.

MK M GOBL
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Va limbhanger on April 18, 2017, 04:07:26 AM
Quote from: MK M GOBL on April 17, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
Have you tried the "Gargle" method? Easiest way for me to purr.

MK M GOBL

No, and if you could give me some insight to this method i will give it a shot!
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: turkaholic on April 18, 2017, 05:28:29 AM
Check out utube video by Scott Ellis. Watching his video did the trick for me. Primos limb hanger is still available, I think at Wings and Midwest turkey supply.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Va limbhanger on April 18, 2017, 05:31:37 AM
Quote from: turkaholic on April 18, 2017, 05:28:29 AM
Check out utube video by Scott Ellis. Watching his video did the trick for me. Primos limb hanger is still available, I think at Wings and Midwest turkey supply.

Thanks turkaholic, and I'll surely check out Scott Ellis's vid and see if I can locate another limbhanger call from MTS.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: VaBoy on April 18, 2017, 08:33:08 AM
All the old Primos calls are still available on there website. I'm partial to the True Triple . Great call if it doesn't choke you.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: kjnengr on April 18, 2017, 10:28:52 AM
I purr by fluttering my tongue.  I have never been able to do the gargle method.  I do have to re-position the mouth call slightly to go from yelps to purrs and back to yelps.  And if I remember correctly, I don't put nearly as much pressure from my tongue as I do when yelping.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Va limbhanger on April 18, 2017, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: VaBoy on April 18, 2017, 08:33:08 AM
All the old Primos calls are still available on there website. I'm partial to the True Triple . Great call if it doesn't choke you.

Thanks (to everyone) for trying to help me succeed with this. I've got a few small frame calls coming and if they don't show me some promise then I will be ordering one of my old time favorites (limbhanger). Even though I don't think I could pur using the Limbhanger either. LOL
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: MK M GOBL on April 18, 2017, 08:31:13 PM
Quote from: Va limbhanger on April 18, 2017, 04:07:26 AM
Quote from: MK M GOBL on April 17, 2017, 09:43:19 PM
Have you tried the "Gargle" method? Easiest way for me to purr.

MK M GOBL

No, and if you could give me some insight to this method i will give it a shot!

Really pretty simple, if you can already gargle. If not start by "practicing" with water no call in mouth, gargle water until you can control those muscles, once you get that going start to learn to gargle soft and hard. Then forget the water and do the same, last thing is add in the mouth call and go from there.

Hope this helps!

MK M GOBL
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Gobble Nole on April 18, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
Im telling you...

The limbhanger was the key for me.  I highly recommend it or at least a softer call.  The super stiff calls, like some of the woodhaven calls, are almost impossible to purr on. 

For me anyway...
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: MK M GOBL on April 19, 2017, 04:45:48 AM
Quote from: Gobble Nole on April 18, 2017, 10:10:34 PM
Im telling you...

The limbhanger was the key for me.  I highly recommend it or at least a softer call.  The super stiff calls, like some of the woodhaven calls, are almost impossible to purr on. 

For me anyway...

HMMmmm, All I use are Woodhaven Diaphragm Calls, must have a dozen different calls and have never had and issue purring on any of them or any call, not to say some don't carry a different tone but I am really liking the Toxic Orange I have, was in their Ghost Pack.

MK M GOBL
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Gobble Nole on April 19, 2017, 12:19:49 PM
Hey I am just referencing myself...

All I know is that the white tape on the woodhaven calls is very stiff and makes it more difficult to purr on. 

The black tape is more flexible and easier to use.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Number17 on April 21, 2017, 07:39:16 AM
I think the lip purr is the least authentic sounding turkey purr.
Some guys can flutter their tongue very well and get a good sound.
I like the gargle method because I have the most control with it and I can transition right into other calls like soft clucks, yelps, and whines without moving the call around.

Actually for just strictly purring and clucking, I like to do the gargle method with no call at all. It is very easy for me to get a feeding turkey purr by just getting my uvula flapping with a gargle and clucking in the back of my throat.
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: tha bugman on April 21, 2017, 09:20:28 AM
I have found going "slack jawed" is the most effective for subtle purrs.  Just like Scott Ellis says...just let the call flutter against the roof of your mouth.  You will get more consistency that way.  Takes some practice but you will have the hang of it in no time!
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: thunderbirder on April 21, 2017, 09:36:56 AM
My problem is there is TOO much flutter. I sound like a micro - engine or something...
Title: Re: Problem purring using a mouth call.....maybe use a small frame ?
Post by: Va limbhanger on April 22, 2017, 05:47:08 PM
Is there any call or type that is easier to purr with? Combo cut, split V, thick or thin latex, 2 or 3 reeds, etc.....