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Title: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 03:17:33 PM
What would be the best shot or shot combo in nitros? Are they better than hevi shot and worth the extra money? I like using the best ammo I can and would like opinions from those who have used them. Thanks
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: taylorjones20 on March 30, 2017, 03:18:37 PM
They are a good shell. 4x5x7 seems to be the most popular.  What kind of gun are you shooting?
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 03:30:22 PM
Remington sps supermag 12 gauge  20 in. barrel. I have a jebs 665 and indian creek 665. Currently shooting hevishot #7
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: taylorjones20 on March 30, 2017, 03:53:06 PM
I shot Nitro's until I started loading my own TSS.  They are tough on turkeys, and shoulders/jaws. lol

Are you not getting good patterns with the Hevi #7's ?
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 04:15:41 PM
Around 245 in the 10in. But would like the nitro if they patterned better and hit harder
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 04:18:31 PM
Would like to try tss but don't reload and I don't know anyone that does or sells them
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Tom Foolery on March 30, 2017, 04:26:42 PM
I've shot Nitro's and I've shot Hevi13.  I still shoot Hevi13 #7's.  Other than recoil I couldn't tell the Nitro's were any better.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 04:32:17 PM
If the 4x5x7 nitro patterns as good as the hevi shot #7 they should have more knock down and range being faster and having the bigger shot.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: sevetts on March 30, 2017, 06:16:47 PM
I have always shot nitro 4x5x7 blends, they are a fantastic load in both 12 and 20ga. Nitros are absolutely awesome and they provided me with many confident years of turkey hunting, that being said I probably won't be ordering any more just because there are other good options that are cheaper and more readily available. If you are getting 240+ with hevi 7s then you are ready to roll and don't need to look for anything else. Nitros may extended your range some but 240 hevi 7s will kill as far as ya need. I would highly dought you'd be able to get some nitros by the time you needed them for this year anyway.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Bowguy on March 30, 2017, 06:20:58 PM
My advice is don't use em. Had a friend blow 2 barrels n 2 friends w shells sticking in the barrel area so far it required a stick to remove em. Turkey hunting is about hunting/calling not ruining a gun. If you're determined good luck though
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 06:28:37 PM
Not for this year. I prep year round. I absolutely love turkey hunting. What kinds of patterns have yall had with the 457
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: dirt road ninja on March 30, 2017, 06:43:03 PM
I shot the 2 7/16 ounce load of straight 7's. They performed well for me, killed a few birds with them. If I didn't handload I'd still be using them.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: dirt road ninja on March 30, 2017, 06:45:05 PM
Quote from: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 04:18:31 PM
Would like to try tss but don't reload and I don't know anyone that does or sells them

It's not hard at all.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 06:54:46 PM
What load from nitro would yall recommend from experience I usually hunt open fields. What shot and ounce load for 3.5 12 gauge
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Tom Foolery on March 30, 2017, 08:03:28 PM
Quote from: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 04:32:17 PM
If the 4x5x7 nitro patterns as good as the hevi shot #7 they should have more knock down and range being faster and having the bigger shot.


The chances of any of the 4's or 5's making it to the target is slim to none.  Mixed blended loads giving extra range from the larger shot is great marketing but it's not accurate marketing.

If you need more knock down that Hevi13 7's can give you then you need to buy a rifle.  I made a shot on misjudged yardage well past what we are supposed to talk about on here with Hevi13 7's, far enough it's embarrassing.  They poleaxed that bird, anything extra from Nitro's wouldn't have been noticed.   



Allaboutshootinig posted an article on shotgun shot showing the faster it starts the faster it looses energy/velocity to the difference down range i basically zero. 
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 08:54:47 PM
Well I have shot the mag blend 567 for 2 years and liked them but my pattern wasn't great. They hit hard! First year with 7s and was wondering bout nitros. I'll take any advantage I can get!
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Old Gobbler on March 30, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Nitros are a hotter version of standard turkey loads , they perform well , but yes they are "hot" if your not wanting to go full tilt into nitros , hs magnum blends tend to use more larger size pelllets , either load will flat out kill any turkey at 40 yards , if it was me I would ditch both and shoot the federal 7 hw, cheap , easy to get , consistent , and patterns and hit hard

You mentioned tss , be forewarned ....it's not as easy or affordable  as some make it out to be , if you have experience in reloading it's not as complicated, if you have ZERO RELOADING EXPERIENCE, I would recommend you weigh your options carefully cause your gonna need to compile a long list of very specific materials plus reloading equipment that folks just never seem to tally into their end price per shell , ...... the biggest promoters of the product who sell the shot and formulas no longer welcome here for legal reasons for starters ....there other reasons too  it you know what I'm not gonna bother with it at this time --

I will however let you know the tss product does perform well  , but so does countless other 12 gauge  shotshells like you've mentioned at 40 yards also too ....
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 09:26:52 PM
Bud I'm new to this forum and don't know or care to know about that I think this forum is great and the people on here also. It's great to be able to ask people their opinions on stuff when u have no clue. Thanks for all the responses. If only the world was full of people like us!
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Gobble! on March 30, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
My experience with Nitro was good patterns but after one season of use I had a vest pocket full of buffer. The quality does not match the cost. I have a shell I keep just to show people how bad the seals were. I switched to them after pattern inconsistencies with HeviShot shells. At that point I decided to try TSS. I'll never shoot a factory loaded shell again.

Now that I said that if I did want to shoot Nitro I would shoot straight 7s, larger shot only takes up space.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: TheSportsman on March 30, 2017, 10:35:16 PM
I shoot 3" Nitros. They awesome and crumple birds. No signs of over pressure. Primers look good. Shooting in Beretta over and under
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: sevetts on March 31, 2017, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: Fl strutter on March 30, 2017, 06:28:37 PM
Not for this year. I prep year round. I absolutely love turkey hunting. What kinds of patterns have yall had with the 457
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/fbf1e4985c54c8289a31d4125021d26f.jpg) Win 1300, 3" 4×5×7 hevi shot blend, rhino 660

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Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: goblr77 on March 31, 2017, 10:42:10 AM
Nitros are worth the money. I'm shooting H518 4x5x7 loads in my 835 and SX3. They're flat out nasty on birds. Hevi straight 7s, 6s, and Mag Blends are good as well. I've killed birds with all three but they don't hit like Nitros.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Gobble! on March 31, 2017, 02:01:21 PM
There's a post on their fb page now that shows they still have a issue with their pressures.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/NitroCompanyAmmo/permalink/10156557365668973/?comment_id=10156559976613973&notif_t=group_comment_reply&notif_id=1490903091464049
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: rpinks on April 01, 2017, 04:43:20 PM
I have been shooting nitros for a long time. Was shooting heavy 13 before and have harvested plenty of birds with those. Nitros are a little picky patterning my SBE probobley just my gun. My 935 will shoot most all of them well. I always have 2 turkey guns as i hunt several states and want a back up. When patterning at extended range with freezer paper you can see where the larger shot tends to be in the core. I spend way to much shooting turkey loads but that is what I like to do. The best pattern I ever achieved was with 2oz H521f in a Moss 535. I had to go to 935 due to recoil after shoulder surgery.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on April 01, 2017, 04:51:46 PM
Looks like I'll be ordering some 457
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: stinkpickle on April 02, 2017, 11:50:01 AM
I can't speak to any pressure issues with Nitros, but I can fire those and Win HV's in my 835 back-to-back and not tell any difference in recoil.  It's equally bad for both.  ;)   Of course, I'm not 100% positive that Win HV's aren't "a little hot", either...
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on April 02, 2017, 01:15:41 PM
On their Web site it doesn't show what size shot is in each load. How do u know what's what
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on April 02, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
They custom make your order. Pick the load you want to try and the shot size for straight load or sizes if wanting to try a blend. They have a guide to reference various guns and show their results with loads and chokes.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on April 02, 2017, 03:03:41 PM
Yea for 870 it's saying 457 but I was wondering about a load of 6s and 7s blend
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on April 02, 2017, 03:49:22 PM
Are you looking to shoot a 3 or 3.5 shell out of your 870?
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Fl strutter on April 02, 2017, 04:27:52 PM
3.5
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: Ozarks Hillbilly on April 02, 2017, 06:34:05 PM
Well depending on when your gun was madesigned pretty or post 2009 they brought back their H51013 that works well in both. Or you may go with the H518 for newer models or H517 for older guns. I personally would go with a straight shot shell and I lean towards 7's in HTL.  If you hunt in open country where your shots tend to be longer and easier to miss judge distance go with 6's. I will add that if you haven't patterned your gun a lot you might pick up a box of less expensive shells in 3 and 3.5 to see if it doesn't pattern 3" a little better than the 3.5. Most Remington seem to shoot 3's better. If you had a 835 or 935 or one of the other over bored barrels they all seem to shoot 3.5 shells very well. Just my  :z-twocents: and probably not worth what you paid for it.
Title: Re: Need advise on nitro ammo please
Post by: eggshell on April 02, 2017, 06:43:14 PM
Nitros have been my shell of choice for several years now. I shoot 3" straight #5s out of a browning classic gold auto loader with a .660 choke . I seldom shoot birds over 30 yards, but in the few cases I have I have not had any walk away! I have probably killed 50 birds in multiple states with these loads and am very pleased. I have not had as much problem with the buffering coming out recently. Back when i did I would take a birthday cake candle and drip a small drop of wax on top of the shell...problem solved!

I have seen a lot of trash talk on the Nitros, but I found out a long time ago that the best approach is shoot your gun and see what works in it. They will all preform differently with variations. So I wouldn't slam LBs, winchester federals or any load, I would say shoot them and see. For instance the winchesters blow up the pattern in my gun, but the Nitros do very well. Now I do not as a rule try to stretch my Nitros, I know what I'm shooting. I see most of the criticism is for beyond 30 yards....it's not often I shoot over 30 yards, so they work well for me. Like I said though when I have pushed them farther I have never had a problem. The take away is there are no magic bullets, do your homework and shoot your gun with multiple loads.