Anyone using a basic black turkey gun or does camo rule the day.
I'm using cerakoted guns. All the metal is one color. Brown colors... Black stock on one gun and camo stock on the other...
My son shoots an all black Mossberg 510, and has never had a problem killing birds.
I run a black Beretta 390, killed several birds with it.
Camo guns are nothing more than personal preference. As long as you are not being obvious the birds wont see it.
I was telling some folks about this sort thing in an instructor meeting just last week. I've kee kee'd in birds in fall wearing red wool/black rich jackets n red/black flannels. No one believes til they see it done. Tv has us brainwashed imo.
My daughter shoots an all black 11-87 the other shoots a wood n black 11-87. I've taken them w black/wood sp-10s, and sat next to a bunch of folks using all black guns. The Ithaca I'm gonna use this year is all black n the Benelli I plan to use too is all black.
For a long time I used a camo 835 n I'd bet the camo helped not at all.
Turkeys aren't the slickest, look at how close they come to blinds whatever color they are. Ever drop a black decoy bag n realize too late? Birds walk right up to it. My older daughter often takes off her face mask n forgets to pull it up when gobblers approach. Never once has a bird spooked when she sits still n sometimes even when they don't sit perfect.
Yea camo can help n I'd say there's never too much but don't stress over something so small. Wanna break up your pattern, wear camo n the black horizontal streak they see could be a wet stick, they aren't checking for safeties
Never had a problem with black and they are cheaper than camo
:icon_thumright: yepper I shoot an all black 870 20ga,
I have 3 black and one factory camo and never had problems with the black guns...Agree camo is just preference..
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Camo guns might be the most successful marketing myth ever perpetrated on the hunting community. Sure, I own, and use some, but don't think it makes a lick of difference. As long as your gun isn't painted neon yellow I'd say you're good to go. However, the camo treatments (dips, cerakote) definitely go a long way to preventing or even prohibiting rust on treated surfaces.
My SX2, which I used exclusively for 8-10 years, is factory black.
Never had ANY issues whatsoever with birds seeing it as anything unnatural.
I shoot a benelli's cordoba that is all black. Never had a problem with birds seeing a black shotgun that I no of.
Quote from: Frylock on March 27, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Camo guns might be the most successful marketing myth ever perpetrated on the hunting community. Sure, I own, and use some, but don't think it makes a lick of difference. As long as your gun isn't painted neon yellow I'd say you're good to go. However, the camo treatments (dips, cerakote) definitely go a long way to preventing or even prohibiting rust on treated surfaces.
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I wouldn't worry about hunting with a monochrome color gun but I would want my gun coated in some kind of way because of the environment I hunt. I get rained on at least once a season.
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Quote from: Frylock on March 27, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Camo guns might be the most successful marketing myth ever perpetrated on the hunting community. Sure, I own, and use some, but don't think it makes a lick of difference. As long as your gun isn't painted neon yellow I'd say you're good to go. However, the camo treatments (dips, cerakote) definitely go a long way to preventing or even prohibiting rust on treated surfaces.
:agreed:
I wouldn't worry about hunting with a monochrome color gun but I would want my gun coated in some kind of way because of the environment I hunt. I get rained on at least once a season.
I'll agree to an extent. It cuts the glare in most cases. However, I've killed many birds while using a stainless steel gun with zero camo finish so obviously camo isn't a big issue. As for the gun being protected, I've seen where the dipped guns will sometimes rust from the inside out. The external appearance gives a false impression that all is well but that's not always the case. Once it gets scratched up some, it allows the water to get in there. If you want a tough finish, get the gun ceracoated like mentioned above. That's definitely the way to go for durability. Like mentioned by others, this is just one mans opinion.
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This is my son's,it's a nice bright shiny 20ga BPS. He hasn't had a problem.
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My dad shoots a black sbe2 with no issues.
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Where did you get that 870? outta my gun cabinet? that's identical to mine I think we even have the same red dot.
Here's my 20ga 870
Black 835
Ideally, all they're gonna see when they look at my shotgun is the little black hole in the end of it!
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Quote from: wvmntnhick on March 27, 2017, 09:34:11 PM
Quote from: kjnengr on March 27, 2017, 09:21:50 PM
Quote from: Frylock on March 27, 2017, 08:01:05 PM
Camo guns might be the most successful marketing myth ever perpetrated on the hunting community. Sure, I own, and use some, but don't think it makes a lick of difference. As long as your gun isn't painted neon yellow I'd say you're good to go. However, the camo treatments (dips, cerakote) definitely go a long way to preventing or even prohibiting rust on treated surfaces.
:agreed:
I wouldn't worry about hunting with a monochrome color gun but I would want my gun coated in some kind of way because of the environment I hunt. I get rained on at least once a season.
I'll agree to an extent. It cuts the glare in most cases. However, I've killed many birds while using a stainless steel gun with zero camo finish so obviously camo isn't a big issue. As for the gun being protected, I've seen where the dipped guns will sometimes rust from the inside out. The external appearance gives a false impression that all is well but that's not always the case. Once it gets scratched up some, it allows the water to get in there. If you want a tough finish, get the gun ceracoated like mentioned above. That's definitely the way to go for durability. Like mentioned by others, this is just one mans opinion.
Good points. In fact I have thought of cerakoting all of the steel parts and dipping the plastic parts of one or more of my guns.