Wrong. Brand new SBE2. Thanks Clark for the advice.....again. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170306/08d2cbc9d46780256ca080088b70b172.jpg)
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I think that's pretty dirty for a new gun..
Wow I cleaned mine last night because I couldn't remember if I had cleaned it last year or not. It didn't look anything like that.
Quote from: Greg Massey on March 06, 2017, 02:26:09 PM
I think that's pretty dirty for a new gun..
I was pretty darned surprised myself
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I thought all company's coat the inside of the barrel with something to keep them from rusting before sold.
Some of my new ones came pretty scuzzy. I know at least some manufacturers do coat them so they don't rust before purchased.
Benelli said they are cleaned before shipped
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Ya the don't surprise me. They must be shooting about as straight as their guns.
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 06, 2017, 06:21:50 PM
Ya the don't surprise me. They must be shooting about as straight as their guns.
I'm questioning whether I was possibly sold one that had been carried and returned on the sly. Upon closer inspection the camo is scratched right where the sling attaches on both ends. I'm not a paranoid person but I'm having a few doubts.
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 06, 2017, 06:21:50 PM
Ya the don't surprise me. They must be shooting about as straight as their guns.
I'm questioning whether I was possibly sold one that had been carried and returned on the sly. Upon closer inspection the camo is scratched right where the sling attaches on both ends. I'm not a paranoid person but I'm having a few doubts.
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I told you not to buy one...if it has scratches and it's new i would be returning the gun..for that kind off money, i want to put the first scratches on the gun....
That would be a good question. That looks like it was shot alot.
Take action apart and check there maybe?
There will be some reside near the buffer spring if shot some.
New is new to me I wouldn't except a test fired a time or two story either. I'd examine it a little further and a phone call would be made stating if you wanted a used one you would have bought used and how do they want it delivered back.
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 06, 2017, 06:21:50 PM
Ya the don't surprise me. They must be shooting about as straight as their guns.
I'm questioning whether I was possibly sold one that had been carried and returned on the sly. Upon closer inspection the camo is scratched right where the sling attaches on both ends. I'm not a paranoid person but I'm having a few doubts.
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I told you not to buy one...if it has scratches and it's new i would be returning the gun..for that kind off money, i want to put the first scratches on the gun....
yep, you did, and i agree about the newness factor
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I think my Benellis have a little residue around the firing pin after shooting. By the looks of your dirty patch and it looking like someone carried it on a sling it's pretty obvious in my opinion. I don't know where you bought it,but maybe if it was taken in on trade if it was a gun shop they might have tried passing it off as new?
I'm feeling screwed with burden of proof. Seeing the pictures up close on the computer I can see for sure it's been carried. Am I wrong!?! I'm calling first thing in the morning and if they don't make it right then I'm going to make some noise.
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Oh and the sticker wasn't on the barrel I thought that was odd but never thought twice about it
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No way that's a new gun..i think your screwed ....that gun with how dirty that barrel was has been shot a lot....
Where was it purchased
Definitely hunted...as far as Burden of proof those marks don't get like that over night. I'd make alot of noise. That's plain gettin hosed.
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Where was it purchased
Small town gun shop with awesome reputation. I'm giving benefit of the doubt that it was a mistake. They open a crack of dawn so I'll call the owner first thing and see what he says. If they don't make it right I'll certainly drop their name
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Has to be used....I just took my Benelli on a pheasant hunt Saturday and shot sporting clays afterwards. Probably shot about 150 rounds and it was almost spotless from all of that action. Few swipes of the barrel was all it took.
Call your local Leo's and see if someone will run the serial for you. They should be able to tell if it was previously registered.
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Benelli is checking for me
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If it wasn't registered with Benelli wouldn't it be in the Fed registry if it was purchased prior? Might be wrong but maybe another Avenue if needed.
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 06, 2017, 09:08:43 PM
If it wasn't registered with Benelli wouldn't it be in the Fed registry if it was purchased prior? Might be wrong but maybe another Avenue if needed.
Honestly what I think is that it was "borrowed" from the shop. I'm expecting the serial to show nothing
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 06, 2017, 09:08:43 PM
If it wasn't registered with Benelli wouldn't it be in the Fed registry if it was purchased prior? Might be wrong but maybe another Avenue if needed.
Honestly what I think is that it was "borrowed" from the shop. I'm expecting the serial to show nothing
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Good luck...i know your not satisfied with the gun...
The dirt in that barrel is definitely not a new gun
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Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 06, 2017, 09:08:43 PM
If it wasn't registered with Benelli wouldn't it be in the Fed registry if it was purchased prior? Might be wrong but maybe another Avenue if needed.
Honestly what I think is that it was "borrowed" from the shop. I'm expecting the serial to show nothing
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Good luck...i know your not satisfied with the gun...
Thanks
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Most new guns I've bought have had filthy barrels. I think the serial number should turn up some information
Yep the past few guns I've bought new did have oil down the barrel but after a swipe it wasn't dirty just looked like some hopes coming out.
UPDATE: They completely Agree it was used. They're sending back to benelli because they feel benelli sent them a used one too. They're a great gun shop. Replaced it with a super black eagle 3 for no charge. $1,485 for a new SBE3 was well worth a trip back to the shop
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What did Benelli say?
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Quote from: MickT on March 07, 2017, 07:02:57 AM
What did Benelli say?
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I sent benelli the serial number, they'll get back to me today. If I hear from the shop I'll let you know if they find anything too.
I'm glad you came out better on the deal in the end. I'm sure you didn't sleep well last night.Be Thankful and remember next time always go with your gut feeling and heed all warnings,but I'm sure you've figured that out after this.
Quote from: MickT on March 06, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Call your local Leo's and see if someone will run the serial for you. They should be able to tell if it was previously registered.
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No they cant tell you that.
Definitely would say that the gun has been used for sure. My guess would be not a little either.
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Quote from: MickT on March 06, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Call your local Leo's and see if someone will run the serial for you. They should be able to tell if it was previously registered.
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No they cant tell you that.
Can't, won't, or shouldn't? I had a local popo run my name or plates to get my cell number so he could call and ask if I had found his head lamp he lost while hunting.
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Quote from: WNCTracker on March 07, 2017, 06:55:52 AM
UPDATE: They completely Agree it was used. They're sending back to benelli because they feel benelli sent them a used one too. They're a great gun shop. Replaced it with a super black eagle 3 for no charge. $1,485 for a new SBE3 was well worth a trip back to the shop
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:happy0064:
UPDATE: The owner of the store called me himself this morning. He told me that they tracked the gun back to an error made somewhere along the way where it was actually returned, not only used, but defective. :TrainWreck1:
Glad nothing went terribly wrong with it while it was in your possession. How does that even happen?
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I said the exact same thing since serial numbers are all recorded...
Quote from: WNCTracker on March 07, 2017, 06:55:52 AM
UPDATE: They completely Agree it was used. They're sending back to benelli because they feel benelli sent them a used one too. They're a great gun shop. Replaced it with a super black eagle 3 for no charge. $1,485 for a new SBE3 was well worth a trip back to the shop
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Odd situation but good result!
Not trying to flame you so please don't take it that way.....
From a safety standpoint only....how did everybody miss this ?
I know the pics may magnify it a bit, but that wear looks pretty noticeable, just don't understand how it made it past that many people......
Quote from: BowBendr on March 08, 2017, 12:48:41 PM
Not trying to flame you so please don't take it that way.....
From a safety standpoint only....how did everybody miss this ?
I know the pics may magnify it a bit, but that wear looks pretty noticeable, just don't understand how it made it past that many people......
Yeah, unless you're looking specifically at the sling area there was no other sign anywhere, plus it being camo hid it. You'd probably have missed it too They brought it out to me and it was in a taped box disassembled in the benelli box so we were talking while he assembled it and broke it back down. I didn't look too hard at the magazine cap...but I agree from a safety standpoint it's worrisome.
You sure the gun owner ain't just trying to cover his A$$. A take one in on trade and passing it off as new sounds more logical. Maybe thats not the story,but you'll probably never know at least you got out of a bad deal and got a life long learning experience out of it.
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on March 08, 2017, 01:20:44 PM
You sure the gun owner ain't just trying to cover his A$$. A take one in on trade and passing it off as new sounds more logical. Maybe thats not the story,but you'll probably never know at least you got out of a bad deal and got a life long learning experience out of it.
You're right, never know. The owner is 100% standup guy and I think he's pretty concerned this happened. Small town gun shop where everybody knows everybody, to do that would be BAD business. I'm betting on an employee who wasn't paying attention at some point. And you're right, I'll never buy another gun without telling this story to the seller.
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Quote from: MickT on March 07, 2017, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: snapper1982 on March 07, 2017, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: MickT on March 06, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Call your local Leo's and see if someone will run the serial for you. They should be able to tell if it was previously registered.
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No they cant tell you that.
Can't, won't, or shouldn't? I had a local popo run my name or plates to get my cell number so he could call and ask if I had found his head lamp he lost while hunting.
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That is illegal, lots of police officers have been fired for running plates to get personal info, just saying.
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Quote from: Jmbradt3873 on March 08, 2017, 02:48:45 PM
Quote from: MickT on March 07, 2017, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: snapper1982 on March 07, 2017, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: MickT on March 06, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Call your local Leo's and see if someone will run the serial for you. They should be able to tell if it was previously registered.
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No they cant tell you that.
Can't, won't, or shouldn't? I had a local popo run my name or plates to get my cell number so he could call and ask if I had found his head lamp he lost while hunting.
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That is illegal, lots of police officers have been fired for running plates to get personal info, just saying.
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If I had realized how he got the info at the time, I would have had a talk with his PD. I couldn't have told you his name 15 minutes later though.
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Quote from: MickT on March 08, 2017, 05:16:14 PM
Quote from: Jmbradt3873 on March 08, 2017, 02:48:45 PM
Quote from: MickT on March 07, 2017, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: snapper1982 on March 07, 2017, 08:50:45 AM
Quote from: MickT on March 06, 2017, 08:53:24 PM
Call your local Leo's and see if someone will run the serial for you. They should be able to tell if it was previously registered.
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No they cant tell you that.
Can't, won't, or shouldn't? I had a local popo run my name or plates to get my cell number so he could call and ask if I had found his head lamp he lost while hunting.
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That is illegal, lots of police officers have been fired for running plates to get personal info, just saying.
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If I had realized how he got the info at the time, I would have had a talk with his PD. I couldn't have told you his name 15 minutes later though.
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Yeah, I understand. My buddy who is a LEO, used to run my daughter's boyfriends for me before all this carp happened, now I have to dislike them for no reason. LOL
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Glad to hear the shop owner made this right. Good for you for bringing it to everybody's attention.
I'll be interested to hear how you like the SBE 3. I also hope you get to break it in right this Spring.
Jim