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Just watched this and it looked like both birds went down, this freeze frame was a second before the shot and of course the other bird was never shown in previous footage or mentioned ever.
No way I'm pulling the trigger, even if it's in GA where its legal to kill all 3 in one shot. Totally against my upbringing.
I wouldn't try it even were there was a two bird a day limit. It's not legal where I hunt but I am a stickler on getting a clear shot at only one bird. I am sure there are plenty of " incidents " that never see the light of day.
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I failed to mention this was Ky, I thought more of mossy oak than to not mention the incident even if they had to lie.
Good chance of an incidental hit on the second bird depending on how far... At 10 yards I might comfortable taking the shot, at 20 yards not so much.
I would likely wait for them to separate a bit before shooting. I am sure it will happen, but I have not yet had two birds come in together that did not separate enough for me to feel comfortable shooting...
Certainly agree that you should only take a clear shot at one bird. In Virginia it's currently one bird per day. However, our dept. of fish and game is holding public hearings on making Spring Gobbler a two bird a day limit. I predict there will be an increase in wounded birds.
From the pic looks like it be hard not to hit the other gobbler unless your shooting a rifle.
Nope that's way too close. I used to do it in the fall before they changed the county limits to 1 bird. Now that can't be done in TN anymore. Looks like they goofed up and tried to cover it up to make it into the episode anyway.
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When the cameras are rolling, the ethics go out the window....most of these guys (not all) are so desperate to get footage they make some dumb decisions...
You see it more with deer shows, but I've seen my share of desperation on turkey shows.
Quote from: guesswho on March 05, 2017, 09:31:40 PM
No way I'm pulling the trigger, even if it's in GA where its legal to kill all 3 in one shot. Totally against my upbringing.
This pretty much sums it up for me, too. (As much as I hate to agree with this guy AGAIN) ;D
Personally, I would rather see a gobbler walk than to take a shot where I thought there was any possibility of killing more than one,...even when it was legal for me to do so. Over the years, there has been many a gobbler live to see another day because he had the good fortune to be standing too close to his buddy.
As for the hunting videos, I'm sure all of us have watched segments where we knew they had killed other birds than the target gobbler,...some of which ran or flew off to die in the woods somewhere later. I saw one recently where you could see another bird flopping in the background in the video,...but somehow no mention of it.
No way no how am I going to shoot. I will wait until they move apart or I just wont shoot. They will walk off and I will hunt them again tomorrow. Turkey hunting has gotten as bad as deer hunting. Its the kill that matters and not the hunt. Turkey hunting use to be about one on one battles with wary old toms . Now one has to get the kill to measure their success
Easier to kill 2 w 1 shot than not too often. No pride in that for me
Nope
Quote from: GobbleNut on March 06, 2017, 08:43:20 AM
Quote from: guesswho on March 05, 2017, 09:31:40 PM
No way I'm pulling the trigger, even if it's in GA where its legal to kill all 3 in one shot. Totally against my upbringing.
This pretty much sums it up for me, too. (As much as I hate to agree with this guy AGAIN) ;D
I have a feeling this is going to be a strange year for turkey hunting! ;D
IMHO, it's hard to tell from that blurry picture what you have in front of you so, for me, that is a basic "no shot" situation. I'd shoot only when I could identify a legal bird in my sights that could be killed without also hitting other birds.
Quote from: Treerooster on March 06, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
I ain't shooting. That pick is so lousy I can hardly tell there are turkeys there. :toothy12:
Agreed. I can't really tell what's what in that photo.
Quote from: Strutr on March 06, 2017, 10:59:15 AM
IMHO, it's hard to tell from that blurry picture what you have in front of you so, for me, that is a basic "no shot" situation. I'd shoot only when I could identify a legal bird in my sights that could be killed without also hitting other birds.
Same here....
Quote from: wvmntnhick on March 06, 2017, 11:16:35 AM
Quote from: Treerooster on March 06, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
I ain't shooting. That pick is so lousy I can hardly tell there are turkeys there. :toothy12:
Agreed. I can't really tell what's what in that photo.
There is a halfstrut bird in back and another male turkey just to the right and closer.
First off , I'm in no way saying this is an OK to shoot situation, but you have to understand that the camera angle view and the shooters angle view may be very different . Real easy to jump to conclusions on this one , someone sitting five yards to one side or the other from the camera may have an entirely different perspective. Just saying ...
Quote from: VaBoy on March 06, 2017, 04:16:28 PM
First off , I'm in no way saying this is an OK to shoot situation, but you have to understand that the camera angle view and the shooters angle view may be very different . Real easy to jump to conclusions on this one , someone sitting five yards to one side or the other from the camera may have an entirely different perspective. Just saying ...
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let them separate then hope for a shot
Not shooting wouldn't won't to take a chance in wounded the other bird and not founding it.
The picture sucks, so it's hard for me to tell what I'm looking at. I didn't even realize there were two birds until reading and even now I feel like I'm guessing as to where he is. If the photo was my sight picture, I wouldn't be shooting. I do, however, recognize that the camera's sight picture and the hunter's sight picture are not always the same. I have seen birds besides the target birds appear to get peppered pretty good on videos. Enough so that I've watched in slow motion multiple times to see if I saw what I thought I did.
Quote from: Treerooster on March 06, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
I ain't shooting. That pick is so lousy I can hardly tell there are turkeys there. :toothy12:
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Sometimes even with a clear shot you have that fly away ! Last year I had that happen to me (lucky its legal here) . Group of jakes came in with a Tom trailing. All the Jakes cleared I pulled the trigger and he flopped and a Jake that was literally 5 feet away was flopping too. The autopsy showed one pellet that hit him directly in the brain.
Yeah it was fired up 4, the second bird that got hit was standing behind a tree too but the pellet came off the wire at an angle.. freak accidents sure can happen all you have to do is not push the envelope.
I had to let a pile of birds walk last year opening day because there was simply too many birds too close and all moving around. They were flocked up still, when 12 toms 15+ jakes and a good 30 hens come off the roost together its madness, I did my job and was in range but there were so many birds moving around and silhouetted behind other birds there just wasn't an ethical shot that guaranteed my expanding pattern wasn't going hit more than the one bird.
That's wait for one of them to clear time for sure. No brainer.
no shoot for me.
I was watching a turkey hunting program on one of the outdoor channels a few weeks ago and I for sure saw a second gobbler flopping after the shot and no mention was made of the second bird.
Quote from: Tom Threetoes on March 08, 2017, 12:27:00 AM
I was watching a turkey hunting program on one of the outdoor channels a few weeks ago and I for sure saw a second gobbler flopping after the shot and no mention was made of the second bird.
I don't doubt it. I have come across the same thing.