Just got the vest and took all my things out of my bucklick creek and put them in new vest and had a ton of extra pockets left over. Lots of storage and very comfortable. Has a higher back than the bucklick as well. So far I'm really impressed.
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Where can you find these vest? I really liked the Original Bucklick Creek Vest but not much on the Red Head brand. I have back issues and would really like to try the Primos Rocker. Thanks For Sharing !!
They should available online anytime now. I agree on the redhead lounger. I made do with it because it was the only thing close to the original. The primos is as good or better than the original. IF it holds up.
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I will be calling Primos tomorrow !
Thanks Again !
https://www.primos.com/products/vests-packs/rocker-vest/
I like the looks of it. I'll have to check one out before I buy, the seat, back and straps looks identical to the BassPro Bucklick Creek. A higher back, as mentioned, would be a welcome addition.
Hows the seat? That cushion looks incredibly thin?
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It's thin but no thinner than the others of this style. It's longer on the bottom and actually has a lot more support.
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I really like the looks of this vest and am considering a purchase, with the way the back is, could you sit in a turkey chair like a gobbler lounger with it? I like to carry my chair and use it when I'm going to sit down for a few hours.
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Yes u could.
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Just watched the video of this vest and like it a little more the seat still looks thin as paper though then I'm carrying an extra cushion or having a sore but in 17min of sitting. Would love to hear more from users on how comfortable the seat is
I like 2 box call pockets
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These style vests basically have a crazy Creek style chair but in. You don't need a cushion with them. I'll sit longer in mine than anybody just sitting on a cushion. The only thing I've found more comfortable is a gobbler lounger but then you have to lug that thing around
Just when I was set on the alps grand slam, I wish I could try before I buy!
I've sat in both in the last few days and I chose the rocker over the alps. Couple reasons why, the rocker has WAY more storage. Also the frame on the alps banged against gun when carrying on a sling.
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Quote from: TauntoHawk on March 04, 2017, 04:08:04 PM
Just watched the video of this vest and like it a little more the seat still looks thin as paper though then I'm carrying an extra cushion or having a sore but in 17min of sitting. Would love to hear more from users on how comfortable the seat is
I like 2 box call pockets
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Where did you find the video??
Having had two Bucklick Creek vests, that thin seat is more comfortable than you would think. I can sit as long is that as I can my Tactical Tater kickstand vest. The TT seat gets hard after a time and begins to hurt my bottom.
The BC is definitely faster, more portable and easier to use.
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Quote from: TauntoHawk on March 04, 2017, 04:08:04 PM
Just watched the video of this vest and like it a little more the seat still looks thin as paper though then I'm carrying an extra cushion or having a sore but in 17min of sitting. Would love to hear more from users on how comfortable the seat is
I like 2 box call pockets
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Where did you find the video??
Youtube
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Quote from: JHoyle on March 05, 2017, 07:34:57 PM
I've sat in both in the last few days and I chose the rocker over the alps. Couple reasons why, the rocker has WAY more storage. Also the frame on the alps banged against gun when carrying on a sling.
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It looks like it, also like that it has a hydration pouch.
It does look like someone did their homework...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_GMDV8dNZU
I might just give this a go, the absence of the bulky metal frame but free standing seated position is intruding. carrying and extra cushion at worst is still lighter than the lounger, plus I like the idea of 2 box call pockets and 4 pot call slots so I can use 2 of those for scratch boxes hopefully at an angle. Its also priced right I feel with some of these new packs (tenzing/UA) being sky high on price.
I think i've changed my mind on this pack, also being able to kind of come out of the straps and pockets while seated looks comfortable and a smart design. Hope sizing fits im pretty thin so a medium large adjusted down might still fit lose but worth trying
I just received my Primos Rocker Vest in the mail ! It has exceeded my expectations! I've tried the Tinzing vest and The Redhead Bucklick Creek vest and never really liked them like the Orginal BLC. With back issues I need back support . This vest was designed by turkey hunters!! Plenty of pockets and size adjustments and the frames for the seat are very supportive. I am very impressed With this vest. Best Ive ever owned!!! Way To Go Primos !!!!
Anyone that has one, do you think the adjustments on the M/L will size down and fit a 5'6" 150lb frame well or will it swallow me and bang around all lose??
Sizing is only thing holding me back from trying it
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I'm 5'9" and about 170. I was worried about it being baggy on me but it actually fits me very well. It could be a little baggy for you though
Quote from: crenshawco on March 09, 2017, 09:15:29 PM
I'm 5'9" and about 170. I was worried about it being baggy on me but it actually fits me very well. It could be a little baggy for you though
Do you have everything pretty much cinched all the way down
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Quote from: h2obil on March 09, 2017, 08:51:17 PM
I just received my Primos Rocker Vest in the mail ! It has exceeded my expectations! I've tried the Tinzing vest and The Redhead Bucklick Creek vest and never really liked them like the Orginal BLC. With back issues I need back support . This vest was designed by turkey hunters!! Plenty of pockets and size adjustments and the frames for the seat are very supportive. I am very impressed With this vest. Best Ive ever owned!!! Way To Go Primos !!!!
Where did you order yours from? I can't find one in stock anywhere.
I Called Primos and ordered directly from them. I couldn't find the vest anywhere online? She said they were telling ppl to wait for the vest to come out in the stores it would be cheaper-- that they had to charge retail. But the total with shipping was around $140?
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I Called Primos and ordered directly from them. I couldn't find the vest anywhere online? She said they were telling ppl to wait for the vest to come out in the stores it would be cheaper-- that they had to charge retail. But the total with shipping was around $140?
Did primos say when they should hit retailers??? I mean it doesn't help if they don't release a product to store until after turkey season
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Earlier today I saw where Cheaper Than Dirt had them for $101. With tax and shipping, it came to $131 and change to my address.
Just can't make myself pull the trigger till I can see one in person. Maybe for next season...
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Earlier today I saw where Cheaper Than Dirt had them for $101. With tax and shipping, it came to $131 and change to my address.
Just can't make myself pull the trigger till I can see one in person. Maybe for next season...
I see the vest listed at $76 and $101 not sure what's up with that.. and why on Earth is their shipping so high $21
I'm not saying I won't buy it maybe even order it tomorrow.
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The prices were for the difference in camo patterns although they all say obsession the model numbers relate to obsession and extra green.
I went ahead and pulled the trigger to try.
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We'll be anxiously awaiting your review!
Spent all wknd in mine and all I can say is wow. Very impressed.
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I dive into my impressions and pictures of the vest itself when I get it.. I'll report back once it's been used in the field but that'll be a little 4.5wks until Nebraska but it'll get it's share of miles out there and I imagine the seat anywhere will be a more useful feature out there than the hardwoods of the northeast
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Quote from: JHoyle on March 14, 2017, 03:51:01 AM
Spent all wknd in mine and all I can say is wow. Very impressed.
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Good to know!
TH, I used my Bucklick Creek in Nebraska and it was very handy to have your own seat with a back there. Good luck this spring gentlemen!
I got the vest just a few minutes ago, my season is still a month from hunting so I won't have a field proven review for a while but tomorrow I will give an impression review with pics tomorrow.
I see some love hate things right away so I will report back
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Cheaper Than dirt - $76 plus $24 shipped to me, I ordered the MO Obsession in M/L. I'm about 5'9" and around 185. I got an email from them over the weekend saying it shipped out, I'll let ya know !
So I got the vest in this past weekend, also went through cheaper than dirt... A bit less than $100 with shipping and tax
So on to the review.
Sizing: I ordered the M/L which is the smallest size they offer. I am 5'6" 150 and the vest fits fine with everything cinched down lots of extra straps but the vest doesn't seem overly large when on and actually the seat and backrest then become plenty roomy.
Price: I'll call it an even $100 with shipping that's very competitively priced with other vests and cheaper than most vests that offer built in seating
Durability: no tell how well it will hold up in the field but seems well built. Fabric is a bit thinner than say the cabelas heavy duty fabric but that also makes the material lighter.
Pockets: They thought of everything here, if you lift up the one hatch there's actually a kitchen sink in there.. okay maybe not but they did a good job on pockets.
- 4 pot call pockets they are roomy for any size call, soft interior, and feature fully waterproof tapped zippers
- 4 striker slots, these are a bit tight for some strikers the lip on most 2 piece strikers make them a tad hard to slide in. Not sure if this will loosen up over time but they do seem to stay put in there. Its a tough line for strikers to fit easy but stay put. there is also a large horizontal pocket on the inside of the right side that would fit a bunch of strikers.
- 1 large box call pocket, pocket has a nice hard face to protect the box and waterproof zipper as well. Pocket is plenty big enough for just about any size short box. if I leave the top of the zipper open a long box fits half decent with just the end of the handle and paddle sticking out
- water bottle pocket, fits my favorite camo coffee thermos so that's a huge win (that sip of coffee while birds are gobbling all around and the sun is just cracking the sky is one of the best moments of any spring turkey hunt)
- large front accessory pocket, would fit a small box call/owl hooter/water bottle/gps.. I did try but a thermacell might fit well here
- flip down diaphragm call pocket, holds 4 and secures with a magnet
- Webbing area, this might seem worthless but will afford you to put whatever you want there thermacell, extra box call pcoket, Rangefinder, GPS anything with a clip
- behind the webbing there's a little stash pocket I see using this to slide a locator call when in use and I can stash it away in a zippered pocket when not in use
- Lots of pockets on the inside and extra large pockets on top, the top pockets also feature waterproof zippers. These have plenty of room for locator calls, scratch boxes, shells, snacks, extra strikers, knife.. just about anything
- Vest also features fleece lined hand warmer pockets, you southern boys might think that's crazy but I see frosty morning every year and even a few flurries this was one of my most pleasant surprises of the vest.
- The back of the vest not only features a full size game bag plenty big enough for a gobbler or decoy but also has a hydration pocket and port. there is also a large decoy stake pocket on the bottom that's a plus for anyone that's ever lost one or 5 of those. the hydration pocket I will probably use to store extra facemask and glove
Finally the Seat: I was originally worried about the extremely thin cushion compared to other vests and never really like the tubing style frame on kick stand vests like cabelas version. Impressions of the seat and back rest: The design is solid, I understand they didn't invent it but it works well. One of the main comfort issues with vests is the flat seat cushion that has your legs straight out on the ground and your back often almost vertical against a tree. Pull the straps tight and the seat allows you to comfortably get your legs just a few inches off the ground and supported as well as your back is set at whatever amount of lean you want. One thing with the bit oversized vest for my size is the back is big enough that if I slid down a bit I can comfortably rest my head and no frame in between the aluminum stays so its comfortable (can you say nap time). One thing I found when testing that I like over the gobbler lounger chair style is because of the ability to rock around a bit in the seat is easier to twist and move for shots back and to the sides than the chairs you kinda get stuck in. Once in the Seat, you can detached the shoulder straps throw them back over your shoulder and have the pockets disconnected that allows you to either lay them out or proper them against the your legs makes access really easy and convenient.
The vest seat flips up inside the back and connects with magnets its quick easy and will never fall down while walking through brush. The only issue I see with this design is that the bottom of the seat is what goes against your back so if it sits in mud or water that part is gonna sit against your back. The cushion is still thin but I think it might be surprisingly comfortable given the set up.
Ultimately, The vest is great its not a minimalist vest this is the bells and whistles type of vest loads of pocket and an excellent seat/back rest set up. as someone who has flip flopped vests, back packs with chairs, and even fanny packs trying to find the balance between comfortable and gear carry ability I'm excited to see how this stacks up but I like its promise so far. I won't have it in the woods for a little while but I think it'll work out great in both Nebraska and the North East timber.
I do have pics I can post as well and quick gear up trial I did with the pockets.
Nice write up Taunto. I echo most all of what you say. I've hunted mine a few times now and it's great in the field for me too.
You mentioned a pocket I haven't even found on mine yet. Where are the fleece lined handwarmer pockets? I haven't found those yet?
The only complaint I have so far is the striker specific pockets are small which you alluded to. I have several strikers that won't fit in them. There is a zipper pocket on the bottom right inside of the vest that is perfect for strikers though so that's where I've put mine.
I told myself I'd have to see it to buy it.
You guys sold me however, I just ordered mine. Thanks for the reviews fellas. :icon_thumright:
Quote from: crenshawco on March 21, 2017, 11:02:30 AM
Nice write up Taunto. I echo most all of what you say. I've hunted mine a few times now and it's great in the field for me too.
You mentioned a pocket I haven't even found on mine yet. Where are the fleece lined handwarmer pockets? I haven't found those yet?
The only complaint I have so far is the striker specific pockets are small which you alluded to. I have several strikers that won't fit in them. There is a zipper pocket on the bottom right inside of the vest that is perfect for strikers though so that's where I've put mine.
The bottom back side of the main pocket compartment areas so immediately behind and underneath the webbing area ?and water bottom pockets. I tried it on and was just unzipping and zipping things and was like a pocket with no zipper that's dumb.... Ohhhhh are these fleece are these for my hands
Which for us northerners know that a vest really covers both jacket and pants pockets so where do you go with chilly hands.
I also wasn't thrilled with the striker holders but found the same inside pocket and figured they will probably end up in there with a scratch box or two. My hooks strikers with that thin smooth design fit really well so I will carry those in the designated holders which is fine as I like those strikers.
I very rarely find products that are worth their retail price in this market, like very rarely but I couldn't be happier at the price point on this vest
Quick dump and still had pockets empty.. strikers were in vest not shown
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Seat,
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Can see some naps happening pockets still accessible while seated but not cluttered on my chest or lap.
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Great reviews. Looks like an a-1 vest. I will have to start shopping.
Nice vest.
I certainly like the idea of a hydration bladder. All my packs have that capability, will this vest hold a 3L?
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I certainly like the idea of a hydration bladder. All my packs have that capability, will this vest hold a 3L?
I don't know what it's capacity is, I can measure the pocket dimensions when I get a chance for you.
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I gotta wear one before I am convinced...but overall looks pretty comfortable.
How big is xl/xxl? Did know how much room compared to other vest... thanks
I'm 250lbs,6'1" and xl/xxl is big on me. But not too big.
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Quote from: TauntoHawk on March 24, 2017, 09:36:18 AM
Quote from: Rzrbac on March 24, 2017, 01:22:37 AM
I certainly like the idea of a hydration bladder. All my packs have that capability, will this vest hold a 3L?
I don't know what it's capacity is, I can measure the pocket dimensions when I get a chance for you.
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The pocket is about 13" wide 10" tall and roughly 2" deep not sure what size hydration bag that fits I'll use the pocket for extra face mask and socks that I like to never be without.
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Quote from: TauntoHawk on March 21, 2017, 06:00:46 PM
Can see some naps happening pockets still accessible while seated but not cluttered on my chest or lap.
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Nighty night.
Hey wait a minute...hold the phone...stop the presses. This vest is UNFAIR!
Napping should be a skill!!! This vest makes napping too easy. Any young whippersnapper can nap in that thing.
Nice review and thanks for doing that TauntoHawk. I have an interest in this vest but will wait until next season as I am about to start already.
There are still some things that I would like to know but those are going to take time.
Is the vest really comfortable after you have sat in the same place in it for 1 1/2 to 3 hours?
Are those zippers really actually waterproof? And will they last more than 5 years? On my MO Elite 3 vest a zipper or 2 are the first things that went.
Is it noisy/clumsy to walk through brush?
I'll let you guys test her out first. ;D
Those are my remaining questions. Is it real world comfortable, how does it function on slopes both looking up down and side slopes. what about the 2hr sit will my legs work when I stand up???
Also always question zipper durability and stitching down the line, they do have large pull tabs which help in the dark on the outside pockets. I assume the pocket material is waterproof or at least resistant otherwise taped zippers don't mean much. I can always spray it with waterproofing as well. I do worry that the lighter fabric will have some noise in brush compared to the heavy yet quiet and durable material on the tac tater line but again won't know til I'm out there.
I'm also an accomplished woods napper thank you very much, I can remember in highschool staying out too late then having my dad wake me up for bow hunting, a few hours later I'd be curled up at the base of my stand sleeping in the leaves. I'd only crawl back on stand when my dad came to get me again to tell him I didn't see anything. Now I have fancy vests and millennium treestands so I can do it right but then don't because I'm too busy hunting.
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I just got mine today. I spent about 15 minutes going over it and sitting in it. First impressions:
1. It seems heavier than my BassPro lounger vest was. But it broke two years ago so maybe not. I put it on and it doesn't seem heavier wearing it.
2. The back is much higher than the BassPro lounger vest. Much better back, higher and padded. I like it a lot. The seat is the same as Bucklick Creek and the BassPro version. Thin padding but pretty comfortable for that thickness. It's pretty easy to do an hour or more in it. That said, I can do as long in this seat as I can my Tactical Tater kickstand vest. That seat gets hard after an hour.
3. Very easy up and down with the seat, I like that when it's time to make a quick move.
4. Seems well made. Good pocket layout. Not sure how the hard pocket and double thick pot call pockets will feel, they do stick out front a bit. As stated, the striker pockets look a bit slender. But it should hold the ones that fit it quite well.
5. Lined hand pockets, cool!
6. A decoy stake pocket. Don't use one often but that's a positive thing when I do.
7. Well padded shoulder straps. The seat straps hold securely. Love the versatility of the seating and fast moves are as easy as any vest.
I'm very pleased, but my season doesn't open until April 15 so I can't do much real hunting testing yet.
Well, I have placed an order for one. Can't wait to try it.
I've got 40 hours of hunting in this vest so I will circle back for guys interested.
-Seat; finding the balance between convenient/comfort/and weight is tough there's always a con to the pros of each set up I've tried traditional vest cushion, carried a lounger an entire season, the framed kickstand style vest. In my opinion this vest is the solution for me, really balances comfort and portability.
- this vest will carry everything you need and about a bucket load more, lots of pockets. the only negative I can find is the striker sleeves will only suite certain strikers as some I have are too thick or long to fit correctly but there is another pocket that will fit them just fine on the inside.
- I really liked the protected pockets for box and pot calls, banging around in the woods and tossing the vest in the back of the truck it certainly is nice to have a bit more protection on expensive custom calls.
This really seems like a they thought of everything product I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this vest to anyone
So I spent around 18 days in this vest this year. Here are my after thoughts.
Although I love the layout and design of this vest, it doesn't hold up.
I tore a zipper on one of the pockets 3rd day.
The brace on the back support pushed through the top of vest this past wknd.
I contacted primos and they are gonna make it right but unless they double up on the fabric and stitching I won't reorder another.
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After hunting hard with mine for 2 weekends I noticed Thursday while hunting the web strap for the bottom buckle had almost come completely off from where it was sewn on the left side of the vest. It's headed back to Primos tomorrow. I sure do love the vest & how you can sit anywhere with no tree to your back. The only negative for the vest for me is it is heavier & hotter than my other vests.
Quote from: JHoyle on April 24, 2017, 07:09:28 PM
The brace on the back support pushed through the top of vest this past wknd.
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Mine has done the same thing on both sides. I had my wife stitch it back up with dental floss and it's held up fine since. I'm probably going to send it back to Primos and get a new one after the season though.
Man the only thing I worried about was durability and it sounds like its a fantastic design with marginal to poor execution.. maybe their first run was rushed and they will correct their mistakes or resign of CS issue for next year. I hope Primos is sending return labels for shipping because the vest isn't small to send back on your dime??
Ordered one Saturday and got it today (Tuesday)! Not as excited now that I have read the last few post has me wondering about durability!!
Appreciate everybody's reviews. My vest has a ton of miles on it and it shows. I'm gonna make due with it for the rest of the season though. This vest has had my attention since it came out. I really like the idea of ditching the Camelbak and being able to stick a bladder in the vest.
I'm a little disappointed to hear about the durability, I'm hard on my turkey hunting gear so durability is important.
I hope there's more reviews here, so far this vest is on the top of my list. I've looked at Ole Tom vests and I just can't see one of those holding up very long with the way I hunt. For anybody that's used both, can you compare the two as far as durability goes.
Quick note...
If you study the vest, you can see that there are about 6 stitch points that get a significant amount of pressure when the vest is loaded with gear and then when sitting.
I took an hour or so and over stitched these areas with power pro fishing line. First off, power pro is extremely strong and I used 10 lb test to fix the areas. We use it on the flats for catching redfish, you can sling a 1/2 ounce gold spoon a mile with 10lb power pro.
Once you do this, it isn't going to pull loose. I promise...
Just my quick fix...
I also cut the long straps in the front off by about 16 inches, they were annoying...
Good advice here. I think that would solve and prevent the issues. There is definitely a good bit of pressure on the 4 corners of the seat. I'd think all 4 corners should be reinforced.
I spoke with them about reinforcing the pressure points with cordura or something and they were willing to listen. Maybe they will fix the issue. I really want to love the vest.
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Yeah I have a feeling that they will tweak the vest by next season...
I cannot find a vendor that currently carrying the rocker or the gen 2 in M/L
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Quote from: tha bugman on April 28, 2017, 12:59:53 PM
I cannot find a vendor that currently carrying the rocker or the gen 2 in M/L
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Try eders.com
I've bought quite a bit from them and have had nothing but good experiences.
I know this thread is getting old but just wanted to let everyone know I got my replacement Primos Rocker Vest today. Took about a month. Just for those concerned about the weight of this vest I weighed it & it was about 5 lbs. empty. For comparison my Cabela's Tactical Tater weighes 3 & 3/4 lbs. empty. So the Rocker vest is about 1.25 lbs heavier than the Cabela's. Just wondering has anybody else got theirs back yet.
They make any reinforcement changes. I spoke with them about it
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Quote from: JHoyle on May 24, 2017, 08:40:29 PM
They make any reinforcement changes. I spoke with them about it
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JHoyle I didn't notice any but I really was checking to make sure the size & camo color was the same as the one I had.
Mine is coming apart at the stress points for the metal rods at the corners after 14 days of use. Will be contacting primos and having it reinforced before it's ever worn now that season is over. I will say concept wise it's the best vest I've ever laid hands on they just need better thread on those corners
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I just got back from WY and SD. I've hunted about 20 days this year, and my vest is all but inoperable at this point. I don't really know what else to say other than it's just a cheap, poorly made vest. The design is great, but the quality is pathetic. 3 of 4 corners of the seat have punched through. The main front left pouch tore off of the shoulder strap, and the right isn't far behind. Ill be returning mine as well, and there's no way I'd recommend the vest
Agreed. Love the layout. Just don't hold up.
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Love to see a fixed version 2.0
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Yea it's a shame that they're not holding up. I too really like the layout & being able to sit most anywhere without trying to find a tree to sit by. I've got my doubts that the new one I got today will make it through next season. Hopefully they will try to rebuild it so it will be more durable. Lots of people like this vest & I think it's worth the effort to make it better. The more vests I try the more I appreciate the Cabela's Tactical Tater which has served me so well over the years.
Sounds like the same problems that have plagued the self supporting vests of the past
Quote from: grayfox on May 24, 2017, 08:35:23 PM
I know this thread is getting old but just wanted to let everyone know I got my replacement Primos Rocker Vest today. Took about a month. Just for those concerned about the weight of this vest I weighed it & it was about 5 lbs. empty. For comparison my Cabela's Tactical Tater weighes 3 & 3/4 lbs. empty. So the Rocker vest is about 1.25 lbs heavier than the Cabela's. Just wondering has anybody else got theirs back yet.
does the tactical tater have a self supporting seat? I have never seen one in person that I know of
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Quote from: grayfox on May 24, 2017, 08:35:23 PM
I know this thread is getting old but just wanted to let everyone know I got my replacement Primos Rocker Vest today. Took about a month. Just for those concerned about the weight of this vest I weighed it & it was about 5 lbs. empty. For comparison my Cabela's Tactical Tater weighes 3 & 3/4 lbs. empty. So the Rocker vest is about 1.25 lbs heavier than the Cabela's. Just wondering has anybody else got theirs back yet.
does the tactical tater have a self supporting seat? I have never seen one in person that I know of
They have a kickstand version with a tubed metal frame but doesn't touch the concept of this seat IMO for comfort/ease of use/rapid deploy its also heavier and more combersome. I hated the cabelas kickstand vest love this one just doesn't hold up. I plan to have primos replace it and have someone skilled with a needle reinforce all the stress points. the thread seems thin and cheap they reinforced the corners but used thread that gives out must have not tested it much because there's no way they hunted the vest a season and didn't realize these problems.
I have been wanting this vest really bad, it just bums me out to hear the durability issues you guys are having.. It may deter me from purchasing one.
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I only used mine a time or two this season. It seems fine, but I think I'll have it reinforced before next spring. It costs too much to lose in a few hunts.
I found myself taking the lounger and my Tactical Tat'r vest most of the time.
And the Rocker that didn't feel so heavy on first look, was quite heavy after I spent some time with it.