Hello all,
I have recently myself in the market for a "budget" semi auto turkey 12 gauge. One in particular I had read about was the Stoeger M3000 in APG with steady grip. Steady grip isn't a deal breaker for me. I am open to suggestions also. Can anyone give me some pros and cons to this gun and any others in the same price range? I have seen the Stoeger's price all over the map. I have seen it as low as $525 and as high as $650. Which always makes me stop and wonder if I am getting a fair price. I am on a bit of a tight leash/budget by the boss. Something about "we have too many weapons in this house already and you keep....yada, yada..." you know how it goes. Any help or advice is appreciated.
If a 3" chamber isn't a deal breaker, I ran up on one of these at academy a couple of weeks ago. It felt good, point great.
http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/ata-arms-cy-camo-turkey-12-gauge-semiautomatic-shotgun#repChildCatid=4083548
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Mossberg 935 0r 930.
I see mossbergs in the high 500 range all the time, thats where I would go.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/621414344
Used Beretta 390
Do you want a gas semi or Inertia driven? Seems I get a new shotgun every six months.. have way too many. I can tell you is I like the Weatherby SA-08 (for gas) and the new Weatherby Element - Inertia.
Both these guns are about $600
For a straight semi turkey gun - Weatherby SA-459 hands down.
When you start looking at these cheaper Shotguns you have to see what brand of choke tubes the gun will take and what you want the gun to shoot. Just like the cheaper gun form Academy. You have to ask, what or who makes chokes for these guns...In my opinion you need to decide what you want the gun to do and build or buy a gun that fits you and shoots the shells with good after market chokes...Notice i said good Chokes..If a cheap gun is limited to chokes them you are limiting yourself in performance. Just something to think about.
Quote from: FL-Boss on February 17, 2017, 10:48:03 AM
Do you want a gas semi or Inertia driven? Seems I get a new shotgun every six months.. have way too many. I can tell you is I like the Weatherby SA-08 (for gas) and the new Weatherby Element - Inertia.
Both these guns are about $600
For a straight semi turkey gun - Weatherby SA-459 hands down.
I have heard good things about the weatherby. Is it a better gun all around than the Stoeger for a straight up semi auto?
I think so. I currently have 3 Weatherby semi auto shotguns.. SA-08, SA-459, Element and they have all be flawless. Great value and good support if needed.
Used Beretta like mentioned above or older Remington. I have a buddy that hunts a camo Stoeger with a tight choke and he likes it.
Been shooting two SA-08s (20 and 12) for years now. LOVE both of them. Sweet shooting. POA/POI is true. Bought them when they first came out. Paid less than $300 each.
My 12 wears an Indian Creek and patterns Win Elite Xtended Range #6 like nothing I've ever patterned. I only have 12 rounds left. Hated they discontinued them.
Knock on wood...I've been 100% with this gun.
Quote from: Gutsdozer on February 17, 2017, 05:19:40 AM
Hello all,
I have recently myself in the market for a "budget" semi auto turkey 12 gauge. One in particular I had read about was the Stoeger M3000 in APG with steady grip. Steady grip isn't a deal breaker for me. I am open to suggestions also. Can anyone give me some pros and cons to this gun and any others in the same price range? I have seen the Stoeger's price all over the map. I have seen it as low as $525 and as high as $650. Which always makes me stop and wonder if I am getting a fair price. I am on a bit of a tight leash/budget by the boss. Something about "we have too many weapons in this house already and you keep....yada, yada..." you know how it goes. Any help or advice is appreciated.
You cannot go wrong with Stoeger IMO, i have owned all 3 the M2000, M3000 and M3500 and all of them were fine guns. They are super easy to breakdown and clean and I love the chrome lined barrel. Shoot a mobile choke which are easy to find and are generally cheap. They pattern very very easy with turkey loads and have a good warrently. I went to a SBE2 but I wouldnt hesitate to own or use one again any day of the week. I never found any cons on the ones i used as long as you understand its a $500 semi auto shotgun so dont expect it to be a $1500 one. It fires every time you pull the trigger and you have very few parts to worry about unlike a gas gun.
The Stoeger would be a good choice, but I would look long and hard at the used racks. There can be some good deals to be had on name brands shotguns, and another thing to remember is if you ever have to sell a name brand and will bring more! I've always been partial to 1100- 11-87 Remington's, cause they hold there value.
After seeing pattern pictures and all of the awesome reviews I just ordered a weatherby sa-459 turkey. I should have it this next week, they say they are one great turkey gun!
Quote from: BottomLand54 on February 17, 2017, 11:04:40 PM
After seeing pattern pictures and all of the awesome reviews I just ordered a weatherby sa-459 turkey. I should have it this next week, they say they are one great turkey gun!
I looked on the Weatherby website and there just are not any dealers around me besides walmart. What is a good/normal price on the SA-459 turkey (SA459XG1222PGM)? Actually there is a Gander mountain near me that is a weatherby dealer but they always seem high on price and the employees there are not the best. I have had bad experiences there and try to avoid it now. Is there a particular website that has good prices on them?
Quote from: Gutsdozer on February 18, 2017, 07:15:20 AM
Quote from: BottomLand54 on February 17, 2017, 11:04:40 PM
After seeing pattern pictures and all of the awesome reviews I just ordered a weatherby sa-459 turkey. I should have it this next week, they say they are one great turkey gun!
I looked on the Weatherby website and there just are not any dealers around me besides walmart. What is a good/normal price on the SA-459 turkey (SA459XG1222PGM)? Actually there is a Gander mountain near me that is a weatherby dealer but they always seem high on price and the employees there are not the best. I have had bad experiences there and try to avoid it now. Is there a particular website that has good prices on them?
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=SA459XG1222PGM*Buds will ship free to a local FFL dealer near you. Usually your local FFL dealer will charge a nominal "processing" fee
Pulled the trigger on the Weatherby! Didn't get the cash discount from Bud's but with the shipping insurance it was only like $20 more than the next cheapest place. I even have a few chokes that will fit it since they use the Mossberg/Invector/Winchester chokes.
Quote from: Gutsdozer on February 19, 2017, 05:03:33 PM
Pulled the trigger on the Weatherby! Didn't get the cash discount from Bud's but with the shipping insurance it was only like $20 more than the next cheapest place. I even have a few chokes that will fit it since they use the Mossberg/Invector/Winchester chokes.
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Is there a "break in" period with the SA-459 turkey?
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Quote from: Gutsdozer on February 19, 2017, 05:30:41 PM
Is there a "break in" period with the SA-459 turkey?
Don't believe so... I'd recommend a deep clean of the barrel as Clark has mentioned in the past:
http://allaboutshooting.com/blogs/blog/98772615-deep-cleaning-a-shotgun-barrelEven new, never fired will need the gunk cleaned out.
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Does anyone have experience and suggestions for a choke? I have a hevi-13 choke in a different gun that will fit.
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Quote from: Gutsdozer on February 19, 2017, 08:20:20 PM
Does anyone have experience and suggestions for a choke? I have a hevi-13 choke in a different gun that will fit.
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Lots of info in the 20 ga thread. Here's some search results for SA459:
http://oldgobbler.com/Forum/index.php?action=search2