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Title: Hevi shot question
Post by: slave601 on February 02, 2017, 06:18:40 PM
When hevi shot first come out they were crazy patterns then they kinda slipped away a little. Ppl say they changed their wading and such I dunno. I switched to nitros for a while and I haven't really looked into hevi shot for a while till this year. I got a ventilator choke .655 so I may try some 7s or 6s. Did hevi get their problems figured out and back producing really good numbers or the same ole lot not number problems? Thanks
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: dirt road ninja on February 02, 2017, 06:53:57 PM
I'd stick with the Nitros.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: Longshanks on February 03, 2017, 09:24:46 AM
 The Hevi 13 3/2/6's and 3/2/7's have remained consistent for me. The 7's shoot really well out of the Ventilator and my 870SM.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: slave601 on February 03, 2017, 12:37:54 PM
What kinda numbers you seeing out of the 7s and 6s
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: Fieldturkey on February 03, 2017, 09:41:54 PM
I get 210-220 with the 3" 7. Sometimes more. Sumtoy 650
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on February 03, 2017, 09:51:06 PM
I hope they have it straightened out my cache of 3/2/7s from when they first came out is dwindling.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: BowBendr on February 04, 2017, 03:36:41 AM
Never got caught up in the chasing lot numbers thing a few years back...the differences were just not that noticeable, some guys lost sleep over it.
No matter what lot box they've came out of, the 3.5inchers have always shot over 300, if that won't do it, nothing will. I just buy a box when I need them and go mash birds...never stockpiled.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: allaboutshooting on February 04, 2017, 08:52:56 AM
Quote from: slave601 on February 02, 2017, 06:18:40 PM
When hevi shot first come out they were crazy patterns then they kinda slipped away a little. Ppl say they changed their wading and such I dunno. I switched to nitros for a while and I haven't really looked into hevi shot for a while till this year. I got a ventilator choke .655 so I may try some 7s or 6s. Did hevi get their problems figured out and back producing really good numbers or the same ole lot not number problems? Thanks
I've been shooting Hevi-Shot products since 2000 and Hevi-13 since it was introduced. I shot the OW shells that Jay Menefee loaded for them and their first in-house production (red shells) that they loaded. I've shot them in competition and in the turkey woods and fields.

Since the "Bronze" shells were developed consistency has been quite good. All shotshells vary some in patterns from shell to shell. We see that in still target shooting at every match.

I have cases of 12 gauge Hevi-13 shells and I just pull a box or several boxes from a case without regard to lot number, etc. They all work and they all kill turkeys cleanly at all reasonable ranges.

Thanks,
Clark
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: SKFOOTER on February 04, 2017, 09:30:33 PM
You guys sound like Hevi-Shot Pro Staffers.  It was well documented on this forum that Hevi-Shot changed wads in some of their loadings a few years back which definitely diminished 40 yard pattern numbers.  Hopefully they learned their lesson.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: BowBendr on February 05, 2017, 03:16:13 AM
No, not a pro-staffer, I just remember the clamor.
Most of the documentation that year you speak of concerned the #7 loads. Yes, there were certain lots (300325) that proved to give the highest numbers in the 10" consistently, but the drop off compared to other lot numbers just wasn't that dramatic. It may have been for some people that were already shooting a finicky setup, but for a normal hunting situation it was minimal. It was pure number chasing at its finest, and it was mostly driven by one person.

There wasn't one single thread on this forum that said a hunter didn't get his bird because he got hit with only 295 pellets instead of 335. What was well documented was that a bunch of guys wrung their hands, gnashed their teeth and shook their tiny fist at the sky over nothing. In fact, since one or two of those same guys quit posting on this forum talk of lot numbers virtually disappeared.

For turkey hunting at the ranges we talk about here
, there wasn't a dead bird that ever told of the difference. If I loaded a gun and blindly handed it to you to kill a turkey, no person on any forum on the planet could tell the difference between lot #300325 and any other lot. Not being combative, just being honest.....
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: Longshanks on February 05, 2017, 04:48:25 AM
Quote from: slave601 on February 03, 2017, 12:37:54 PM
What kinda numbers you seeing out of the 7s and 6s

220's.       3/2/6's
270's.       3/2/7's
300-330's. 3.5/ 2.25/ 7's

200-300 is devastating on the turkey inside 40yds with Hevi shot.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: Prohunter3509 on February 05, 2017, 08:22:56 AM
6 shot 3 1/2" 40 yds. Avg. 180 in 10 " even had a couple 130's
With a lot of dead space around , I discarded them and back too longbeards
I expected better from them
Browning silver ,I.c. 665
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: Longshanks on February 05, 2017, 10:19:42 AM
Haven't been able to get consistent patterns from the 3.5 6's. Shot over 200 with them before but couldn't get consistent round patterns like I did from the 3/2/6's. Have several boxes I would sell cheap.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: Gobble! on February 05, 2017, 10:51:54 AM
I don't know. After my patterns dropped from 320s to 250s with #7s I gave up on them and never gave them a second chance.  Switched to Nitros and wasn't impressed with their quality either. Patterns were above 300 if I remember right but after a season I had shells leaking buffer bad. Then decided to try loading TSS. Not only is it a FAR superior shell but I get to be my own quality control. I'll never buy an over the counter load again.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: stinkpickle on February 06, 2017, 12:44:08 PM
I pretty much stick with the 3/2/6's, since they're so popular with the competition shooters.  I'm guessing that would be the last shell EM would want to mess with.
Title: Hevi shot question
Post by: Gumby on February 06, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
Quote from: stinkpickle on February 06, 2017, 12:44:08 PM
I pretty much stick with the 3/2/6's, since they're so popular with the competition shooters.  I'm guessing that would be the last shell EM would want to mess with.

Same here
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: BottomLand54 on February 08, 2017, 09:02:31 PM
Benelli sbe 2 with 28" barrel, I.c. .665 choke is devestating with hevi magna blend 3" 5,6,7 I don't get into the number matches or the lot numbers. I find a shell and choke that shoots a great nice pattern at 40 yds and shoots a nice pattern at 20 yds and that's the shell I use. Out of every trueky load I shot out of that gun nothing could match the hevi magna blend 3" 2oz 5,6,7. I have never and never plan on shooting a 3.5 inch shell. My friend gets better patterns out of his set up with Winchester supreme 3" 6 shot it's all in what your gun likes and what meets your approval. I shot bowtech for years, just ordered a new Mathews this year it's what met my approval. I have never shot a Winchester long beard xr shell or any tss fwiw.
Title: Re: Hevi shot question
Post by: pdaugherty on February 14, 2017, 02:15:56 PM
I've been shooting the HEVI shells for years. Before that I shot the old Winchester Supremes. I've shot everything from the 3.5 blends in my SBE II to 3 in #6s and #7s in my 11-87. I've never had a problem killing turkeys with any of the HEVI shells. From 10-50 yds they will work.