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Turkey Guns & Shooting => 20 Gauge Turkey Guns => Topic started by: Doug Lewis on December 27, 2016, 12:54:18 PM

Title: For you 870 guys....
Post by: Doug Lewis on December 27, 2016, 12:54:18 PM
Was wondering how the poa and poi was in the 870 20ga. I'm not familiar at all with the way this gun shoots, and was already leaning towards a red dot. I plan on shooting either the Hevi's or TSS handloads.
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: FullChoke on December 27, 2016, 03:12:41 PM
If you have a 20 gauge 870, with a red dot, TSS handloads and a full choke tube (don't over-constrict it), you are TOTALLY LETHAL out to, ahem, 40 yards with a 10" count from 250-300.

FullChoke   
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: Doug Lewis on December 28, 2016, 09:50:10 AM
No red dot yet... just wondering, traditionally, how they shot straight out the box. And if there is a big need for a sight. I'm a Mossberg guy personally, and the need for optics to improve poa/poi is obvious...
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: FullChoke on December 28, 2016, 10:05:44 AM
The Hevi and TSS loads put out some awesome, tight patterns, delivering a lot of shot in a relatively small area. I switched over to the red dot sight to compensate for my aging eyes and to have control over the POA/POI situation. Every gun has the possibility of some discrepancy in where it shoots. Shoot a few rounds through it to see if the beads line up with where the gun sends the shot. If you determine that it is a little off, you can compensate by aiming opposite the difference (high/low, left/right). If it is considerable, you can decide if a sight will help, be it clamp-on open sights, red dot or a scope.

Generally, the 870s are pretty close out of the box. Which sighting system you decide on is up to you.

Good luck.  :icon_thumright:

FullChoke
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: Doug Lewis on December 28, 2016, 12:05:10 PM
Well, this is my sons setup. I do t plan on spending much on sight. I have two Burris FF's and love them. I'm just looking for something that'll take the thump of a shotgun and allow him to see and aim good enough through under pressure.
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: FullChoke on December 28, 2016, 03:06:28 PM
I'm with you, take a look at this one.

https://www.truglo.com/firearms-turkey/tru-bead-turkey-universal-dual-color.asp?catid=F41C40D155E44609874F4225CB2A7EC2 (https://www.truglo.com/firearms-turkey/tru-bead-turkey-universal-dual-color.asp?catid=F41C40D155E44609874F4225CB2A7EC2)

It attaches to the ventilated rib, is fully adjustable, can easily take the 20 gauge recoil and can be removed and upgraded when the time comes. With very little exposure, I believe that your son will catch on to the correct sighting picture.

FC
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: Gooserbat on January 04, 2017, 12:00:35 AM
Mine was close, a set of truglo mgd made it perfect.  I'll back up full choke and say if you're playing with tss it's easy to get adequate "40" yard patterns.
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: nyhunter on January 04, 2017, 08:12:34 AM
my 26" 870 was off high right but a red dot fixed that, my 21" 870 is right on the money with the beads. That being said i put a red dot on it anyway just because i'm comfortable with them and have them on my other 4 turkey guns
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: Greg Massey on January 04, 2017, 06:55:30 PM
My 870 , 20 ga. youth was good out of the box poi and poa. I put a saddle mount and scope on mine. If you ever go 20 ga, with Federal HW 7 you will not go back to a 12 ga...
Title: Re: For you 870 guys....
Post by: Surgical grade on January 15, 2017, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: Doug Lewis on December 27, 2016, 12:54:18 PM
Was wondering how the poa and poi was in the 870 20ga. I'm not familiar at all with the way this gun shoots, and was already leaning towards a red dot. I plan on shooting either the Hevi's or TSS handloads.
That's the exact question I have as well.I'm ordering the components to load some TSS for my youth 20 gauge (21" barrel) and, though I love my FF3/speedbead setup on on my benelli 12 ga, I don't want to mess with the hassle of having it drilled/tapped if it isn't necessary.