Comparing a long box or paddle call as compared to a standard what are the advantages and disadvantages of each?
I like the sound and the number of turkeys you can get in a long box. It's also easier for me to cut on a long box.
Disadvantage? They are long and can get in the way.
Long is a better locator and probably kee kee-er. Advantage to both is if you can consistently take mature birds on public ground with them you will know you're pretty good!
Once you go long you'll never go wrong. I agree with everything in the previous posts. I will also add they are usually higher pitched than a short box.
Both have their place, long box can be a little more versatile but a short box can be easier to run and carry.
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I have found my long box to be more of a "locator".
Short box to "reel them in".
I usually carry 1 long box and several short boxes.
Maybe it's just because I'm more comfortable with short boxes, as I've just purchased my 1st long box last year.
Quote from: HFultzjr on June 15, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
I have found my long box to be more of a "locator".
Short box to "reel them in".
I usually carry 1 long box and several short boxes.
Maybe it's just because I'm more comfortable with short boxes, as I've just purchased my 1st long box last year.
HFultzjr, just wondering how you carry one long box and several short boxes. I will probably purchase my first long box before next season but one thing I have been wondering about is how best to carry it. My Cabelas vest has one box call pouch and even my short boxes protrude from it a bit. I can't imagine putting a long box in it. Would probably stick out a good six inches. Just curious.
Quote from: slwayne on June 17, 2016, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: HFultzjr on June 15, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
I have found my long box to be more of a "locator".
Short box to "reel them in".
I usually carry 1 long box and several short boxes.
Maybe it's just because I'm more comfortable with short boxes, as I've just purchased my 1st long box last year.
HFultzjr, just wondering how you carry one long box and several short boxes. I will probably purchase my first long box before next season but one thing I have been wondering about is how best to carry it. My Cabelas vest has one box call pouch and even my short boxes protrude from it a bit. I can't imagine putting a long box in it. Would probably stick out a good six inches. Just curious.
Extra pockets sewn in vest. Can carry 1 long box and 3 short boxes.
Quote from: slwayne on June 17, 2016, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: HFultzjr on June 15, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
I have found my long box to be more of a "locator".
Short box to "reel them in".
I usually carry 1 long box and several short boxes.
Maybe it's just because I'm more comfortable with short boxes, as I've just purchased my 1st long box last year.
HFultzjr, just wondering how you carry one long box and several short boxes. I will probably purchase my first long box before next season but one thing I have been wondering about is how best to carry it. My Cabelas vest has one box call pouch and even my short boxes protrude from it a bit. I can't imagine putting a long box in it. Would probably stick out a good six inches. Just curious.
There are a few folks out there that make leather holsters for long boxes. Well worth what they cost. The protect your investment well.
https://www.midwestturkeycall.com/long-boxes/2097-eight-hooter-long-box-holster.html
This is a reasonably priced holster that is very well made and does a great job protecting your long box.
Thank you for the replies... Still not sure if I understand the advantages of the long verses the short box though...
Comparing yelps, clucks, cutts, purrs, etc., of a long and a short box made by the same call maker are there advantages of one over the other for making any of the above sounds?
I would assume from the replies that the long box has a bit more volume... But on a short box, you can crank on that volume a bit, while still maintaining good quality on the quiet side with pressure control... I would assume the same is true with a long box????
Both calls work well and will call turkey's we all know that and I assume we are talking Cost style boxes. I use and carry either one though seldom both on the same hunt. It usually comes down to a morning decision when I'm in the basement grabbing my vest as to which box I want to hunt on a given day. For me if I had only one box to carry it would be a long box over the short as I just like them more. Now if you really want to toss a monkey wrench into this then I would hunt a Turpin style short box over both the long or cost style short. Why? Because I like the clucks, cuts, cackles and yawky yelps more and they gobble like crazy. Hunt what works for you and don't read to much into it all.
Quote from: callmakerman on June 19, 2016, 10:21:53 PM
Both calls work well and will call turkey's we all know that and I assume we are talking Cost style boxes. I use and carry either one though seldom both on the same hunt. It usually comes down to a morning decision when I'm in the basement grabbing my vest as to which box I want to hunt on a given day. For me if I had only one box to carry it would be a long box over the short as I just like them more. Now if you really want to toss a monkey wrench into this then I would hunt a Turpin style short box over both the long or cost style short. Why? Because I like the clucks, cuts, cackles and yawky yelps more and they gobble like crazy. Hunt what works for you and don't read to much into it all.
I'd like to try my hand at a Turpin style box sometime. Would love to practice on one before buying though. Seems some guys have lots of trouble mastering the Turpin style box and I've got no desire to be one of those guys. Hate to blow the money into one that I can't get the hang of. Does anyone make a reasonably priced Turpin box that a guy could get and play with all the while not feeling like a fool for not being able to figure it out?
Both Turpin and Gibsons are much harder than either a long or short box to run but in the hands of someone that knows how to run one sound great. Like a trumpet, they need a lot of practise.
:camohat: A long box is harder to master but when you do, she rewards you. Anything you do with a box. a long box will do better and with more sex. I'm just saying she is better when you learn her and coax her. The long box is more versatile and has more turkeys in her, you just got to caress her and coax her. Sorry for getting carried away but a long box is worth the extra length (how long she is) and time needed to master her. She shines on public lands and hard hunted birds, they can't resist her when played by one who takes the time to master her. With that said you got to get one by a proven craftsman like Marlin Watkins, Jeff Mckamey, S&S to name just just a few. I'll get off my soapbox, best of luck to you finding the siren song of tom turkeys.....
Quote from: greencop01 on July 01, 2016, 09:40:25 PM
:camohat: A long box is harder to master but when you do, she rewards you. Anything you do with a box. a long box will do better and with more sex. I'm just saying she is better when you learn her and coax her. The long box is more versatile and has more turkeys in her, you just got to caress her and coax her. Sorry for getting carried away but a long box is worth the extra length (how long she is) and time needed to master her. She shines on public lands and hard hunted birds, they can't resist her when played by one who takes the time to master her. With that said you got to get one by a proven craftsman like Marlin Watkins, Jeff Mckamey, S&S to name just just a few. I'll get off my soapbox, best of luck to you finding the siren song of tom turkeys.....
That there is some turkey hunting porn...
You should go into marketing, cause I am now strongly considering the addition of a long-box to my aresonal...
Thank you for the post.
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Thank you for the post.
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Short boxes are easier to play for most beginners mostly due to spring under lid keeping paddle angle steady. No spring under the lid makes a paddle on a long box slight more difficult to manage for most. It also allows more freedom to find and generate more pitches (turkeys) with the same call.
Quote from: West Augusta on June 17, 2016, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: slwayne on June 17, 2016, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: HFultzjr on June 15, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
I have found my long box to be more of a "locator".
Short box to "reel them in".
I usually carry 1 long box and several short boxes.
Maybe it's just because I'm more comfortable with short boxes, as I've just purchased my 1st long box last year.
HFultzjr, just wondering how you carry one long box and several short boxes. I will probably purchase my first long box before next season but one thing I have been wondering about is how best to carry it. My Cabelas vest has one box call pouch and even my short boxes protrude from it a bit. I can't imagine putting a long box in it. Would probably stick out a good six inches. Just curious.
There are a few folks out there that make leather holsters for long boxes. Well worth what they cost. The protect your investment well.
Quote from: West Augusta on June 14, 2016, 10:37:55 AM
I like the sound and the number of turkeys you can get in a long box. It's also easier for me to cut on a long box.
Disadvantage? They are long and can get in the way.
:agreed: :agreed:
A WELL BUILT LONGBOX HAS A MUCH WIDER RANGE OF SOUND DUE TO THE LENGTH OF THE PADDLE. LONGBOXES WILL KEE KEE VERY NICELY . YOU CAN GET SEVERAL DIFFERENT TONES OF YELPS DOWN EACH SIDE . EVERYTHING FROM YOUNG HEN TO A GOBBLER YELP . YOU CAN ALSO GET A REALLY BIG GOBBLE ON THE BACK END OF A GOOD LONGBOX FOR THAT OCCASION WHERE YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE A HUNG UP GOBBLER. PLUS THE LONG CALLERS WILL CUTT , CACKLE AND PURR WELL TOO . THE ONLY DOWN SIDE , IF THERE IS ONE , IS THAT THE CALLS ARE LONG AND NEED TO BE CARRIED IN A HOLSTER . A HOLSTER ACTUALLY MAKES THEM VERY EASY TO CARRY. I WONT GO HUNTING WITHOUT A LONGBOX WHETHER ITS SPRING OR FALL.
Quote from: shadetree callers on July 28, 2016, 02:47:33 PM
A WELL BUILT LONGBOX HAS A MUCH WIDER RANGE OF SOUND DUE TO THE LENGTH OF THE PADDLE. LONGBOXES WILL KEE KEE VERY NICELY . YOU CAN GET SEVERAL DIFFERENT TONES OF YELPS DOWN EACH SIDE . EVERYTHING FROM YOUNG HEN TO A GOBBLER YELP . YOU CAN ALSO GET A REALLY BIG GOBBLE ON THE BACK END OF A GOOD LONGBOX FOR THAT OCCASION WHERE YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE A HUNG UP GOBBLER. PLUS THE LONG CALLERS WILL CUTT , CACKLE AND PURR WELL TOO . THE ONLY DOWN SIDE , IF THERE IS ONE , IS THAT THE CALLS ARE LONG AND NEED TO BE CARRIED IN A HOLSTER . A HOLSTER ACTUALLY MAKES THEM VERY EASY TO CARRY. I WONT GO HUNTING WITHOUT A LONGBOX WHETHER ITS SPRING OR FALL.
:agreed:
Bob summed it up very nicely.
I had to use the gobbler yelp with my Snozz long box this past spring to get a gobbler to break and come in the last 20 yards. He gobbled great, took about 90 minutes to move to the set up from his roost location, only to hang up on the bench below strutting and gobbling occasionally. When I heard him yelp three times, I returned that gravely yelp back at him. 2 minutes later there he was.
A long box is just so incredibly versatile, and like Bob, I never leave the truck without one. When I wore a vest, my long box would easily fit in the bottom of the inside slash pocket of the vest, and I often didn't carry it in a belt holster. I used a rubber band and piece of foam to keep it quiet when moving. Easy to reach for too once I set up.