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Title: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: upnorth on April 27, 2016, 06:34:29 PM
 :OGani:

It is tough for a person who maybe doesn't have the guidance of hunting buddies who also may know very little also.

What would be your pick of striker for slate,glass or crystal. I have had very poor success with a wood striker on glass and crystal. Fair luck with a carbon rod with a wood head.

Are the expensive strikers more for looks than good quality sound?

How much does the type of head contribute to sound? Hollow vs solid material.

I am learning calling is a art and instruments are so critical but sometimes good comparison of what to use is hard to find.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: backwater on April 27, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
Just checking, the glass and crystal surfaces are conditioned right....meaning roughed up?   
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: mmclain on April 27, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
For a wood striker on glass  bubinga is excellent

Black locust is a great low cost wood plays on anything

Dymondwood is a favorite for many but the resin will load up in the glass....this is only a problem if you are stage calling and it slips making an odd squeak. 

Expensive strikers can be great and cost of the wood is the $$ factor but when it comes to performance ......pretty wood with humps and bumps all over don't mean crap.

The weight of the striker balance and direction of the grain of the wood are important.  Using The striker should be almost effortless to produce a great tone.  Light pressure or hard.

if your pot call is dull sounding with most strikers there is only so much life a great striker can add to it



Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Hankyorke on April 27, 2016, 07:07:35 PM
There's a search feature for the site, use terms like "best striker" + slate or "favorite striker" and you'll get a weeks worth of reading material.

The hard part is that different calls of the same surface like different woods and the same woods by different makers will sound very different.Then add in that everyone's ear is different & everyone likes different tones, raspiness, etc... 
So experimentation is really the only answer, find what you like and are confident in. 

That said there are woods that generically sound better than others (Black Locust, Purpleheart, Hickory, Dymondwood...)  Buy quality used strikers, and if you don't like them there's always somebody else who is experimenting.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: SteelerFan on April 27, 2016, 07:42:39 PM
Quote from: mmclain on April 27, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
For a wood striker on glass  bubinga is excellent

Black locust is a great low cost wood plays on anything

Dymondwood is a favorite for many but the resin will load up in the glass....this is only a problem if you are stage calling and it slips making an odd squeak. 

Expensive strikers can be great and cost of the wood is the $$ factor but when it comes to performance ......pretty wood with humps and bumps all over don't mean crap.

The weight of the striker balance and direction of the grain of the wood are important.  Using The striker should be almost effortless to produce a great tone.  Light pressure or hard.

if your pot call is dull sounding with most strikers there is only so much life a great striker can add to it

^^^^ That's 30 minutes worth of conversation wrapped up in 6 sentences!  :icon_thumright: :icon_thumright:
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: mmclain on April 27, 2016, 10:52:30 PM
Thanks!!!  I've made thousands
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: mgm1955 on April 28, 2016, 01:26:52 AM
Quote from: mmclain on April 27, 2016, 10:52:30 PM
Thanks!!!  I've made thousands
Great advice!!
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: upnorth on April 30, 2016, 10:59:04 PM
also wonder it seems like pot and striker type are effected by outdoor temps and humidity that day?
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: yelpy on May 01, 2016, 01:25:03 PM
Quote from: upnorth on April 30, 2016, 10:59:04 PM
also wonder it seems like pot and striker type are effected by outdoor temps and humidity that day?

Without a doubt.

Also placement of the striker on the surface has a lot to do with how well the call will sound. Some calls like to be run closer to the edge of the pot where others are just a bit farther away from the edge. It doesn't take much to be running the call in the wrong place.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: KYHeadhunter02 on May 01, 2016, 07:09:43 PM
I got a rosewood, bacote, and cocabola from Fred Cox they sound great on glass and Crystal. I also got a zebra wood that runs great on slate.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: upnorth on March 19, 2017, 03:14:24 PM
Any new great advice.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Bowguy on March 19, 2017, 03:29:37 PM
If you're getting custom calls most makers match the striker to that exact call. Certain woods run better on certain calls but it can vary. Dymondwood, tulipwood n snake wood run on almost everything. It's gonna depend on the kinda sound you want as well as what the Turks wanna hear.
You want one good striker imo get the dymondwood
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Gobbleandgrunt on March 19, 2017, 05:10:42 PM
Contact jimmy Schaffer. Oak ridge turkey calls. Get his two piece dymondwood. Leave the wrap on the peg. Should run anything.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Ol Yelper on March 19, 2017, 08:23:30 PM
Get yourself a Matt McLain Black Locust striker. I have two, my buddy has a couple and so far we havn't found any call that they don't sound great on. And they're only 10.00, can't beat that.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: joker on March 20, 2017, 09:38:52 AM
#1) check the conditioning of the surface. On glass try different grits of sand paper

#2) check the conditioning of the striker. I like to condition the striker by setting a piece of sand paper (about 220) on the top of my leg and turn the striker on it like you are trying to start a fire. This cleans the tip and puts the shape that "I" like on it.

#3) Different strikers are going to make calls sound different. ex. laminate, yellowheart, zebrawood tend to make the call higher pitch with more rasp. Ex. maple, hickory, persimmon tend to make the call lower pitch and a little cleaner sound. Just try different strikers and see what you like.

#4) By changing strikers, location of where you are playing on the call, pressure, motion, finger placement on the striker, hand placement on the call... You will be able to get many, many different sounds from a call.

The more you play the more you will learn.

Steve
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Bhhad25 on March 20, 2017, 05:14:50 PM
Where can I go to order Matt McLains strikers?
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: SteelerFan on March 20, 2017, 06:27:54 PM
Quote from: Bhhad25 on March 20, 2017, 05:14:50 PM
Where can I go to order Matt McLains strikers?

3rd post down in this thread is from Matt. Send him a PM
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Ol Yelper on March 20, 2017, 07:29:46 PM
You can PM Matt on here. He's a good guy and will help you out.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: upnorth on March 21, 2017, 05:49:26 PM
Does anybody use a hollow tube carbon striker?
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: kjnengr on March 21, 2017, 08:14:54 PM
I'm no pro, but I have found several strikers that work with my crystal calls. My favorite is diamondwood but I also like purpleheart and yellowheart.
Title: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: beakbuster10 on March 21, 2017, 09:25:21 PM
Quote from: upnorth on March 21, 2017, 05:49:26 PM
Does anybody use a hollow tube carbon striker?
I've got a Yingling carbon striker that runs on everything. My favorite all around striker is probably a Fred Cox tulipwood. It runs on everything. So does a good dymondwood and snakewood.


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Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Matt / PA on March 22, 2017, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: beakbuster10 on March 21, 2017, 09:25:21 PM

I've got a Yingling carbon striker that runs on everything. My favorite all around striker is probably a Fred Cox tulipwood. It runs on everything. So does a good dymondwood and snakewood.



THAT!  :icon_thumright:  I could run that one on one of my wife's cast iron frying pans and call a turkey in........OK it would be dumb one but you get the point  ;D
Reminding me to get a couple more for when I finally lose the one I have!
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Triple B on March 22, 2017, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: mmclain on April 27, 2016, 07:05:49 PM
For a wood striker on glass  bubinga is excellent

Black locust is a great low cost wood plays on anything

Dymondwood is a favorite for many but the resin will load up in the glass....this is only a problem if you are stage calling and it slips making an odd squeak. 

Expensive strikers can be great and cost of the wood is the $$ factor but when it comes to performance ......pretty wood with humps and bumps all over don't mean crap.

The weight of the striker balance and direction of the grain of the wood are important.  Using The striker should be almost effortless to produce a great tone.  Light pressure or hard.

if your pot call is dull sounding with most strikers there is only so much life a great striker can add to it
Well said Matt.That about says all there is about strikers. Take it from someone that has made 1 or 2 in his call building career.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: upnorth on March 22, 2017, 09:22:52 PM
Yes very good info.
Title: Re: Picking the right striker for the right pot?
Post by: Dtrkyman on March 23, 2017, 08:07:03 PM
Got 2 from Matt Mclain, black locust and iron wood, sound fantastic on my Blodgett slate.  And they look as good as they sound!!!