So before this season started I was looking for a new dedicated turkey gun and decided on a Mossberg 835 ulti-mag. I shot it a few times and loved the way it patterned. But then ran into a issue, misfires. I posted on here about the problem and several people recommend a good deep cleaning of the action to remove any grease and also make sure the mag cap was screwed down tight and I did both, and the problem seemed to have gone away. Took it out this afternoon to try a new choke and "click". Even though it has a warranty I am done with Mossberg. I am not going to take a chance with this gun when it comes time to fill a tag. So does anyone have any recommendations in a different affordable turkey gun. Thought about checking out the 870 turkey gun with the 21" barrel. As for now I guess I will use my 870 with a 28" barrel to finish out the season.
Quote from: Browning4140 on April 23, 2016, 09:52:00 PM
So before this season started I was looking for a new dedicated turkey gun and decided on a Mossberg 835 ulti-mag. I shot it a few times and loved the way it patterned. But then ran into a issue, misfires. I posted on here about the problem and several people recommend a good deep cleaning of the action to remove any grease and also make sure the mag cap was screwed down tight and I did both, and the problem seemed to have gone away. Took it out this afternoon to try a new choke and "click". Even though it has a warranty I am done with Mossberg. I am not going to take a chance with this gun when it comes time to fill a tag. So does anyone have any recommendations in a different affordable turkey gun. Thought about checking out the 870 turkey gun with the 21" barrel. As for now I guess I will use my 870 with a 28" barrel to finish out the season.
I do understand the aggravation and frustration when a gun doesn't work as it should. I've had it happen.
That misfire problem with the 835 is normally caused by "gunk" in the bolt blocking the firing pin.
If you'll rest the gun on its butt and squirt some solvent/cleaner into the firing pin hole in the bolt and let it set for a bit, then
dry fire the gun a few times and repeat the process, that should resolve the issue.
I use PrOlix for this process as it cleans well and then when it dries it leaves a dry lubricant on everything that will not attract dirt. One of my 835s had this problem and I did this to it about a year ago and it's not happened since.
I know it's hard to get your confidence in a gun back when it disappoints you but that 835 really is a good gun and if you'll do this, I believe it will take care of the problem.
Thanks,
Clark
If you're having misfires w new gun why haven't you called company? 835 aren't the prettiest but they are some of best turkey guns hands down
I understand being done with a gun. I had a Mossberg that did the same thing and this was a gun I kept clean and used only for turkey hunting. You can have issues with almost any brand of shotgun but when it won't go bang that's a deal breaker for me. Remington 870 and Beretta shotguns have never let me down in terms of functionality. I've just had good luck with those guns. Not to put one brand against another but just my experience. We had several 870's that we duck hunted with in the 80's and 90's that we put through rough conditions. Short barrel entry level guns that were great for shooting in flooded timber. Hunted in waders and guns went under the water and directly in the mud all the time. Sprayed them out with a water hose several times, cleaned them and kept hunting. Those guns are still functioning great today.
I think the other posts are right. Problem is will you ever get back the confidence it will not happen at go time. Only you can decide that. I have been very pleased with my 870 23" version.
Life is too short and turkeys too scarce to deal with equipment issues.
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Friend from work had a mossburg 835 just do the same thing opening day in Missouri. Cost him a nice bird.
He said he cleaned it good.
He shot a few more rounds that afternoon and it went boom. Then once again click.
Oh boy.
But also what about aftermarket firing pin, springs or trigger parts?
I would imagine Clark has dealt with that in his line of expertise.
I have a moosburg o/u 20 that fires all the time , sometimes both barrels at once. Glad it was just doves and dove loads. Still missed some doves! lol
I would try what Clark suggested before you give up on the gun. I had the same issue with my 500 years ago. I sprayed with rem oil and dry fired several times, sprayed with rem dri-lube and have not had another issue.
Confidence is key. Unfortunate situation but I am sure this is rare.
If you can't stand to see it anymore I will give you my address 8) I will even cover shipping. :D
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I'm hearing a lot of these stories when shooting Winchester Long Beards in the Mossberg 835s. I'm curious if that was the shell you were shooting.
Quote from: SCDieselDawg on April 24, 2016, 02:03:52 PM
I'm hearing a lot of these stories when shooting Winchester Long Beards in the Mossberg 835s. I'm curious if that was the shell you were shooting.
I had a friend that had this happen to him last year with an 835 and longbeards,he is a member here and im sure he will see this post!
I have took the action apart after the first time I had this problem and cleaned the crap out of it to ensure there was no gunk in it. After I finished cleaning it I took it out and shot a box of cheap target loads and it worked like a champ, and I thought all was good with it. And then the other afternoon I am back in the same boat again. The first time it happened was with the long beard shells and have had a couple of the Winchester supremes misfire. When you look at the primer there is a slight firing pin mark on it but not enough to set it off. I can rechamber it and it will go off. I am going to send it back to Mossberg and have them figure it out. But once I get it back its on its way out the door. I guess I will just stick to my Remington for my turkey gun from here on out.
My new 835 done this exact same thing last summer. I also took Clark's advice and it worked for about a month. Failed again. Repeated process with CLP thoroughly and now good to go. Gave it another dose of CLP before season for assurance. Really is quite a bit of gunk that comes out of firing pin hole. Not 100% confident it will always fire, but call me crazy, for some reason the chance of it not going boom on a turkey kind of adds to the experience of the hunt. Just another reason to hunt him again. I just like this gun too much not to carry it.
I think if you stick with the cleaning it will be fine.
I had this problem with my Mossberg. I went around and around through cleaning, gunsmith working on it, etc. it would work, then not. Needless to say, it's in the gun safe and doesn't come out. I'll keep the gun for sentimental reasons but I won't buy another Mossberg. I've seen too many threads like this one to think it's an isolated incident. Sorry about your luck.
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my mossberg 935 failed me on a bird 2 years ago i still have the gun bc i truly love the pattern....but i now carry a stoeger m3500 and its leaps and bounds better on quality and performance and finish
Just wondering if any of you members that have had this problem tried replacing the firing pin with a new one? I personally have not had this problem with an 835 so I don't know if it would fix or not but the part is inexpensive....might be worth a try.
I used to own an 835 (it would be about 5-6 years old now if I still had it).
Definately sucks that this happened. My turkey guns are mossbergs, remingtons and browning. Of all the dedicated turkey guns, my old school 835 is the one I prefer. I won't name which but I've had firing pin problems with one of these guns. it wasn't with either of my three 835 shotguns. Id it were me, I'd clean the bolt assembly with CLP breakfree and try the gun some more.
So, everyone claiming to have this problem, what shells were you shooting?
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On an initial clean of any "new" gun which exhibits excessive grease I soak the bolt and other parts in white gasoline until they run clear. It is important to properly re-lubricate the parts, I prefer Tri-Flow since it is not affected by low temperatures and both lubes and protects the metal.
My 835 has done it a couple of times while shooting LongBeards, It seems like everyone I know that has had an issue with this gun and misfires has been using the LongBeards, not sure if it was the shells or just coincidence that it happened when shooting those shells
Rodney
I was calling for a friend and his clicked on the bird. He got another shell in and killed. LB6. The following season, he called me one and my 835 clicked on the bird. He got his Stoger up and killed. LB6. I read many report just like this. Me and him both retired our 835s. Now I shoot Benelli and LB6. No clicks, only flops.
Sounds like some should trade in the Longbeards as well.
Quote from: davisd9 on May 03, 2016, 03:51:08 PM
Sounds like some should trade in the Longbeards as well.
Dunno.............
Been running them through a Remington, a New Haven Winchester and a pair of FN Winchesters without a hiccup.
I have NEVER been impressed with Mossberg quality, function or ergonomics and I don't see that changing for any reason at the present time.
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I have the cheapest mossberg and set up you can have. I am using the mossberg maverick 88 with the true glo choke and sight combo. Shooting winchester Longboards XR #5's and have killed 3 birds, one at 60, 40, and 68 yards. Buddy of mine talked me into the stoeger m3500 and it has been HORRIBLE, just sent it to the factory today, it's shooting a foot low. Missed 2 birds one at 25 and 30, he talked so highly of them and i did not pattern my rookie mistake. Took my dirt cheap mossberg maverick and got my biggest bird last morning of our season this past Saturday. He weighed 26.5lbs, 11.25 beard, and 1 1/8" spurs and he was the 60 yarder. Just my opinion it's not always the price or name of the gun, I have a 850.00 stoeger on a ups truck heading to the factory while a 200.00 dollar gun with the only 3 birds i have ever killed. I have only been turkey hunting for 2 years and relay on the experience of others. The gun i have been researching myself is the mossberg 935 turkey and waterfowl combo. So far have found only good reviews. I will be getting it as soon as my wonderful stoeger gets back and sell it. Hope this may help you out. I would look at the mossberg 935
I have never owned anything but a mossberg shotgun. Several 500s and 835. Never had one problem with them
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Quote from: davisd9 on May 03, 2016, 03:51:08 PM
Sounds like some should trade in the Longbeards as well.
would be the first thing after trying other loads to be sure
I am the magnet for all guns with problems:
Franchi 912 3 1/2" auto...bought new used 2-3 seasons...it quit cycling dependably even though always clean and all parts in good shape...cost me a tom due to a miss on first shot.
Mossberg 835 bought new ...wouldn't eject 3 1/2" MagBlends...swelling the end of the brass, then started doing same thing with Win 3 1/2's...had to go to 3" only with it.
Mossberg 935 bought new... wouldn't cycle second round....shell lifter was defective. Had to send new gun back to factory for fix...worked fine after that.
Stoeger 3500 bought new...choke threads machined improperly in 26" barrel, turkey choke tubes swelled (several brands) , steel shot choke tubes worked ok. Bought new 24" barrel and solved problem, my expense.
BPS 10 Gauge bought new...Duratouch Camo turned to gunk...stripped and used Mossy Oak Gunskins to replace camo.
I should test guns before they release to public...I always get the ones with glitches!
Honcho
P. S. Shooting the Stoeger 3500, Benelli Super Black Eagle and BPS 10 now with no current problems.
Could just be a flaw with the particular production line that yours was in. I've had mine for 10 years and never had it do this. The only issue I've ever had with a mossberg was my 500, it would short shuck on occasion, cost me a couple of follow up shots but it killed alot more birds than it did short shuck. Plus short shucking was my fault by not slamming the foreend back hard enough on a follow up shot.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on May 06, 2016, 09:52:23 AM
Could just be a flaw with the particular production line that yours was in. I've had mine for 10 years and never had it do this. The only issue I've ever had with a mossberg was my 500, it would short shuck on occasion, cost me a couple of follow up shots but it killed alot more birds than it did short shuck. Plus short shucking was my fault by not slamming the foreend back hard enough on a follow up shot.
That short shucking problem is common with most 835's but can be easily and cheaply fixed. Replace the factory magazine spring & follower with a Wolff XP magazine spring and aluminum follower. You may have to cut a 1/4" or so off the wooden dowel used for a plug to accommodate the new setup. File off the end of the cartridge stop a little at a time until it releases the shell like you want it to. Mine will throw shells from the magazine to the chamber with ease, no matter how light I shuck the forend back.
I had the exact same problem you described and was shooting WLB #5. Had several misfires, etc. Sent it back to Mossberg and they replaced the firing pin. No issues since and I've killed 3 Toms with the gun since March.
I've been exactly where you are and was ready to toss it in the trash. Just give Mossberg a call and they will take care of you. Great customer service.