Guy I work with just told me that he usually puts a crow decoy about 30 yards from his hen decoys because it puts gobblers at ease when they see a wary crow on the ground. I thought crows and turkeys weren't friends, and even if they were, would such a thing really have any kind of impact on anything. Seems far fetched but I've been wrong many times before. Anybody ever heard of this....?
I've never heard of that, but I would do almost anything to give myself an edge.
It's plausible but I don't think turkeys use that much reasoning.
My experience with crows is that they like to caw in an irritating way toward my turkey decoys, so I'm reluctant to feel that a crow decoy would set real birds as ease. If I were to carry another decoy, it would be a hen in the feeding position which should indicate a relaxed state to the real gobbler.
I never heard of that so enjoy. Let us how you make out.
I've seen so called "confidence" decoys for waterfowlers, but haven't heard of it for turkeys. I can't imagine a crow would instill more confidence than a lifelike turkey decoy. I don't doubt that your buddy uses one, but there is all kind of nonsense being promoted and used out there.
I sure hope crows and turkeys never get alone. The old crow helps in getting that gobbler to gobble so i know were he is sometimes. For me you call tell for sure a crow and turkeys are not friends just look at how many times a crow has gotten turkeys killed ... ha ha ha ha..
Not trying to offend anyone , but leave your decoys in the truck and get down to hunting turkeys. I have been at this game a long time and we use to kill a lot of turkeys before we had decoys or before they were legal. I'm as guilty as anyone , I have them and I use them at times , but just this past weekend I found myself being drug down by them . Hesitant to move because I would have to pull up the dekes and re-set up instead of jumping up and making the move I needed to . Again , not trying to offend anyone , I just think we have become way to dependent on dekes to pull birds in for us instead of using good woodsmanship . Just my .02
O PLEASE...NOT THE DECOY THING AGAIN...LOL.........
Kind of the reverse but I have a friend who puts a turkey decoy in proximity to his tree stand when deer hunting with a bow ...his reasoning is it puts deer at ease thinking deer know turkeys are so wary.
I personally don't know if it works for him.
Sorry this was off topic on turkeys!
Quote from: Mike Honcho on April 11, 2016, 05:20:53 PM
Kind of the reverse but I have a friend who puts a turkey decoy in proximity to his tree stand when deer hunting with a bow ...his reasoning is it puts deer at ease thinking deer know turkeys are so wary.
I personally don't know if it works for him.
Sorry this was off topic on turkeys!
I've heard that too...
heard it for deer not turkeys.
Not a big decoy user but here are my thoughts... If a turkey is smart enough to look around and notice that you don't have a crow decoy nearby and uses that as a deal-breaker on whether or not he approaches then I would suspect that he would also be observant enough to notice that they don't move and only have one leg. That sir is a turkey I don't want any parts of.
LMBO....Happy....me either...
Quote from: mlisandro on April 11, 2016, 04:15:56 PM
I never heard of that so enjoy. Let us how you make out.
Oh no, I'm not considering it! I just wanted to know if he was full of it. I'm, for one, looking into a parrot for my shoulder
Send me a crow decoy and I'll try it. If the Primos team can kill them in the wide open wearing lime green shirts surely I can kill one with a flock of crow decoys! :TooFunny:
Quote from: Happy on April 11, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Not a big decoy user but here are my thoughts... If a turkey is smart enough to look around and notice that you don't have a crow decoy nearby and uses that as a deal-breaker on whether or not he approaches then I would suspect that he would also be observant enough to notice that they don't move and only have one leg. That sir is a turkey I don't want any parts of.
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Quote from: Gooserbat on April 11, 2016, 04:02:44 PM
It's plausible but I don't think turkeys use that much reasoning.
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Quote from: Happy on April 11, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Not a big decoy user but here are my thoughts... If a turkey is smart enough to look around and notice that you don't have a crow decoy nearby and uses that as a deal-breaker on whether or not he approaches then I would suspect that he would also be observant enough to notice that they don't move and only have one leg. That sir is a turkey I don't want any parts of.
Post of the year. Well played lol
Quote from: Happy on April 11, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Not a big decoy user but here are my thoughts... If a turkey is smart enough to look around and notice that you don't have a crow decoy nearby and uses that as a deal-breaker on whether or not he approaches then I would suspect that he would also be observant enough to notice that they don't move and only have one leg. That sir is a turkey I don't want any parts of.
Don't use up all the good ones before getting to camp next week. I'll have nothing to laugh at otherwise. Was probably a good thing I'd finished my drink prior to reading that though.
I see crows in our food plots with turkeys all the time and they don't seem to mind.
Actually I carry a whole menagerie of decoys and make sort of huge wildlife scene. Couple crows, 3-4 bunnies, a fawn and if the birds are really on edge I'll put some turtles out.
It's kind of a hassle to pull up all of these critters when you have to move.
Always confuses me on the whole decoy debate... I would guess some of this is determined by "where" and "what" you are hunting. I have set plenty of goose decoys out in picked, plowed or mowed fields... I would guess when geese hear other geese and fly over said field they would expect to see geese in that field (decoys). Now I will say I generally hunt fields in my area and as one might expect... a turkey hears another turkey in a field and when said turkey comes to that field it would expect to see another turkey (decoy). I guess I am trying to represent a natural scene, what the turkey expects to see. Now in the timber, unless it pastured or extremely open I don't use a decoy for that setup as a tom comes in looking for that hen in the timber... I do run & gun with my decoys as well, takes no time at all to set 2 DSD's.
So back to the original question would I place a crow decoy for confidence... No, I have confidence in my DSD's.
MK M GOBL
Mntnhick. If I am there then there will be plenty to laugh at.
He may very well use a crow decoy and he may actually think it helps. Personally, I've got my doubts that it would do much good.
Bob
I've had better luck without dekes
He can use a crow decoy but I'm sticking with my new Smokey Baby & Squealing Hen. I know this works cause I seen on TV. LOL
I honestly couldn't say it would help or hurt but I'm not going out & buying a new crow decoy & try it to see. Maybe some of you other more experienced turkey hunters will try it & let us know the results.
As Hobbes points out, we call them confidence decoys when watefowl hunting... Guys use all sorts of confidence decoys for duck hunting, and I will admit that coot decoys probably do work (but that is because large rafts of coots are probably an indication of a good food source).
For turkeys a blue heron decoy with a couple of pink lawn flamingos will work wonders... And if someone sneaks in on ya, and shoots those, you need to find somewhere else to hunt.
Personally, I just do not need to haul any more crap into the field. I am already thinking of investing in a good wheelbarrow to take out all the stuff I already do not need.
Quote from: FlyFishNut on April 11, 2016, 08:15:36 PM
Actually I carry a whole menagerie of decoys and make sort of huge wildlife scene. Couple crows, 3-4 bunnies, a fawn and if the birds are really on edge I'll put some turtles out.
It's kind of a hassle to pull up all of these critters when you have to move.
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Just an observation I've made over the years. Crows harass turkeys BUT they also use them to their advantage. I've often watched them harass the turkeys all the way to the field but when the turkey reach the field the crows go quiet and will often join the turkeys on the ground. I've also noticed that when crows are feeding in a field on their own there is usually a sentry posted in a tree nearby. When they're feeding with turkeys in the same field they often do not post a sentry, relying on the turkeys to sound the alarm if danger is present. I don't think a crow decoy would harm the set-up just not sure if it would enhance it
"Actually I carry a whole menagerie of decoys and make sort of huge wildlife scene. Couple crows, 3-4 bunnies, a fawn and if the birds are really on edge I'll put some turtles out.
It's kind of a hassle to pull up all of these critters when you have to move."
LOL-What no Moose?
Think you guys gave me an idea! A portable green screen. It will all be conveniently packaged with a bad boy buggy. Just drive into your chosen food plot. Pull a few pins and slide out your screen, a few twists and turns of some telescoping tubing and walla! A nice screen for you to project all kinds of wildlife scenes. Can run the projector off of the battery of your buggy and your good to go. Will also place some convenient sits in the screen for your gun barrell. Can hunt from the drivers seat. No blind or decoys necessary! Course you will have to check on legalities in your chosen state. I'm gonna be rich!
I don't think it would necessarily change a turkeys mind on whether or not he wanted to come in but the notion that turkeys read cues from crows, or any animal, does not seem so far fetched to me. They are masters of survival and are very sensitive to their surroundings. But that's just my stinky opinion and FWIW I won't be toting a crow deke out next time I hit the woods either lol :icon_thumright:
I agree. My last post was for humor only. Nothing more.
Quote from: Happy on April 12, 2016, 02:27:54 PM
I agree. My last post was for humor only. Nothing more.
Darn, I just put together a sweet mix cd of turkey sounds to play on radio.
I was thinking "bringing sexy back" would pair well with a strutting tom scene.
Quote from: Happy on April 12, 2016, 02:37:22 PM
I was thinking "bringing sexy back" would pair well with a strutting tom scene.
LOL! :jackson: