Hey guys, I know I'm going to get a lot of crap about this but I can't find my Sumtoy choke for my stoeger M3500 and season comes in Monday. I know there's no way to get another Sumtoy in in time so I need quick recommendations for choke tube I can pick up at a sporting good store. How's the new long beard choke?
:funnyturkey:I'd buy an undertaker
X2 on the undertaker choke.
I shoot a long beard, and I love it!
Maybe the Hevi Shot one if you can find it. Plenty more options for me locally if it were for a Remington, but none for my 3500. Good luck.
Just get a turkey choke, if you find one in the same constriction or close to the Sumtoy you won't see much difference. The constriction is the biggest thing.
What shells are you using? I patterned my Mossberg 500 over the weekend with 3" LB #6's and used a Carlson's Longbeard choke and I really liked the pattern that it gave me. Otherwise I also like the way the Jellyhead patterned as well.
Thanks for the help guys, I'm sure I won't see the numbers I got from my Sumtoy but I think I'm leaning towards the carlson, with some longbward #6s.
What's wrong with the subtly choke you already have?
Indian Creek. Find the SumToy, compare the two, and sell the lesser one.
Quote from: Gobble! on April 07, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Indian Creek. Find the SumToy, compare the two, and sell the lesser one.
X2
When I take my Remington 870 12 gauge, I use the Undertaker choke which I believe is made by H.S. Strutt. Probably 40 yards with 3" shells loaded with #5 lead shot has been my longest shot which folded the gobbler. It is a definite improvement over the extra full screw in choke I used to use.
Quote from: nyhunter on April 07, 2016, 10:47:26 AM
What's wrong with the subtly choke you already have?
Some how I have miss placed my Sumtoy during Pheasant Season since I use the same gun for both.
Quote from: Gobble! on April 07, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Indian Creek. Find the SumToy, compare the two, and sell the lesser one.
I thought about doing that, but the indian creek is like a .665 and the Sumtoy is a .650. I dont think Indian creek will do nearly as good. The Long beard choke is a .650 but havent really heard much about it.
Factory full
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X2 on the factory full. Test some #4 or #5 longbeards with your full choke before you buy a new tube. You might be suprised at how well they shoot. My M2 threw a plenty stout pattern with 3" #5's and the favtory full. Hopefully you will find the Sumtoy!
Quote from: Dtrkyman on April 07, 2016, 01:57:05 PM
Factory full
Without being able to pattern the gun first, I would agree... I have had after-market turkey chokes that shoot a bit high or low... At least I know where my full choke shoots...
Currently, I am shooting a factory full, and my patterns are good out to 40 yards with Hevi-shot #6's.
I was thinking about purchasing a turkey choke this year (as I also lost mine), but I wonder about the actual advantages of such. In good range, there is a benefit to a bit larger pattern with the factory choke, and the factory choke produces satisfactory patterns out to 40 yards... Why handicap myself by shooting an ultra-tight pattern at the ranges I am generally shooting my turkeys at?
This season, I took the top of the head off a bird at 15 yards, and was wondering if I might not have missed that bird if shooting an after-market choke (I purposely held a bit high as I did not want to put any pellets in the body, but apparently I held a bit too high)?
15 yards 1 5/8 oz Hevi-Shot #6's out of a factory full choke in a Beretta Urika-2:
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Good point guys with the full choke. I did miss a bird last year at 7 yards because of the pattern my Sumtoy threw was so tight that the bird was able to drop his head as I pulled the trigger.
Quote from: aaron.haverfield@gmail.co on April 07, 2016, 01:43:39 PM
Quote from: Gobble! on April 07, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Indian Creek. Find the SumToy, compare the two, and sell the lesser one.
I thought about doing that, but the indian creek is like a .665 and the Sumtoy is a .650. I dont think Indian creek will do nearly as good. The Long beard choke is a .650 but havent really heard much about it.
The constriction is a small piece of the puzzle. I have seen more open chokes out perform tighter chokes many times.