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Title: Really? Ridiculous!
Post by: deerbasshunter3 on April 06, 2016, 12:14:21 PM
Things are getting out of hand. This is ridiculous. Its almost like they are just seeing what they can do to get people's money...

http://www.basspro.com/RedHead-Reality-Series-Instigator-RC-Jake-Turkey-Decoy/product/1603301023/
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Post by: Bowguy on April 06, 2016, 12:15:49 PM
That's some funny stuff
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Post by: Boonelli14 on April 06, 2016, 12:20:30 PM
But it's only 299.99$ !!!!!!!! Hahaha
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Post by: ncwoodsman on April 06, 2016, 12:48:24 PM
Do they make it in 4 wheel drive  :TooFunny:
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Post by: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 12:49:17 PM
Aaarrgghhh,....When will it ever stop?!
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Post by: TrackeySauresRex on April 06, 2016, 12:51:39 PM
OM Gosh! I've seen it all now!
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Post by: ruination on April 06, 2016, 01:04:16 PM
Thats awesome.  I would totally take it to one of those RC tracks.
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Post by: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 01:09:07 PM
Just something else to give hunters the idea to shoot a decoy, think you could just get a remote control car and do the same thing for less.
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Post by: renegade19 on April 06, 2016, 01:44:05 PM
Illegal in Illinois.  I'm not one to judge how other people hunt but IF it were legal, I wouldn't use it.  Specially for $300. 
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Post by: Swather on April 06, 2016, 01:48:40 PM
Does it come with a HECS suit to block the emissions of che and electromagnetic energy that animals can see? 

I'm afraid that would be a dead give away when the turkey saw all the electric energy emanating from it.

;D
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Post by: gergg on April 06, 2016, 02:03:12 PM
Had to figure something like this was coming......I don't use decoys, but even if I did that thing would have to be embarrassing to use. Guess they will need to sell a RC wagon to carry that thing as well....lol
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Post by: tomstopper on April 06, 2016, 02:03:37 PM
They should offer it with a mount for a small shotgun on the top and a remote control trigger assembly so we can just call the bird into a 100yards and drive out and kill him too.......

Poor gobblers don't have to worry just about us humans chasing him down but now tricks that resemble his own kind running him down..
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Post by: SS Calls on April 06, 2016, 02:05:21 PM
 Wonder if Rancho makes a lift kit for this model?   :z-dizzy:
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Post by: TauntoHawk on April 06, 2016, 02:07:17 PM
those are gonna be illegal in half the states they sell them in..


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Post by: MouthCaller on April 06, 2016, 02:23:15 PM
I can't say I'd drop 300 on that but I'd use that way before I crawled out in a field holding the decoy myself...

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Post by: HFultzjr on April 06, 2016, 02:27:12 PM
Just use a real turkey........
LOL....whatever happened to HUNTING them.
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Post by: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 02:43:28 PM
I'm developing a cannon net system that you just shoot over the roost tree at night.  The next morning you go in there, sort through all of 'em, and keep the ones you want,....don't even have to fire a shot!  Should run about $500,...who wants to get on my pre-order list?

Of course, my "turkey trot line" that I had out a few years ago is also still available.  It is a bit easier.  Comes with 25 hooks.  You run your line out around your feeder or food plot, bait the hooks with corn, and come back after a while and collect your turkeys.  The only problem is that some of the hens swallow the hook and then you have to deal with that little issue.  But hey,...nobody's perfect...
;D ;D ;D :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Marc on April 06, 2016, 03:26:02 PM
This type of device is used to simply kill a turkey rather than turkey hunt.  If I just want to shoot a turkey, I have a standing invitation to hunt a friend's turkey ranch.

I will actually take the time to write Bass Pro and let them know I think that they are betraying the hunting community in catering to the type of people who would resort to such tactics to "kill" a turkey.  Selling such items shows me that the absolute bottom line is making money, and not the support of the actual hunting community.

I would view a remote controlled decoy as an extremely unfair advantage...   Run it out to the birds, and have them follow it back to you and shoot it (hen decoys will be next)...  NOT hunting...  In no way, shape, manner, or form is that ethical hunting in my book...  Legal or not, that completely defies any of the ethics of hunting that I have grown up with.

I find the use and sale of such decoys unsettling on multiple levels...
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Post by: renegade19 on April 06, 2016, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: Marc on April 06, 2016, 03:26:02 PM
This type of device is used to simply kill a turkey rather than turkey hunt.  If I just want to shoot a turkey, I have a standing invitation to hunt a friend's turkey ranch.

I will actually take the time to write Bass Pro and let them know I think that they are betraying the hunting community in catering to the type of people who would resort to such tactics to "kill" a turkey.  Selling such items shows me that the absolute bottom line is making money, and not the support of the actual hunting community.

I would view a remote controlled decoy as an extremely unfair advantage...   Run it out to the birds, and have them follow it back to you and shoot it (hen decoys will be next)...  NOT hunting...  In no way, shape, manner, or form is that ethical hunting in my book...  Legal or not, that completely defies any of the ethics of hunting that I have grown up with.

I find the use and sale of such decoys unsettling on multiple levels...
Well said.
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Post by: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
Quote from: Marc on April 06, 2016, 03:26:02 PM
This type of device is used to simply kill a turkey rather than turkey hunt.  If I just want to shoot a turkey, I have a standing invitation to hunt a friend's turkey ranch.

I will actually take the time to write Bass Pro and let them know I think that they are betraying the hunting community in catering to the type of people who would resort to such tactics to "kill" a turkey.  Selling such items shows me that the absolute bottom line is making money, and not the support of the actual hunting community.

I would view a remote controlled decoy as an extremely unfair advantage...   Run it out to the birds, and have them follow it back to you and shoot it (hen decoys will be next)...  NOT hunting...  In no way, shape, manner, or form is that ethical hunting in my book...  Legal or not, that completely defies any of the ethics of hunting that I have grown up with.

I find the use and sale of such decoys unsettling on multiple levels...

I 100% agree but isn't that the point of buying Turkey tags? To kill a turkey if not I would just be a photographer, I understand the point of enjoying the woods and experience but some people don't have time or taking along their kid and might want this device to increase their odds in killing a Turkey and great way to keep a kid calm too by letting them control it, anyways isn't my preferred way to hunt but I don't judge.
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Post by: Dr Juice on April 06, 2016, 04:04:22 PM
Anything for $$. Ordering two for myself :-)
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Post by: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 04:08:25 PM
Great comment, Marc.
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Post by: wvmntnhick on April 06, 2016, 04:10:45 PM
Ill order mine when I get home from work. It'll look nice beside my blind and full mount gobbler decoy. Lol. To each his own I suppose. If it's legal, have at it but it won't be legal in WV. No electronic devices can be used to take or entice game at this point.
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Post by: KYHeadhunter02 on April 06, 2016, 04:45:49 PM
Its funny because I had told a friend last year how funny it would be to put a hen decoy on an RC car and take it to the woods and video. It would probably be funny how a bird would act. That's as far as my intentions would go. If somebody were to use one to kill a bird they shouldn't be refered to as a hunter or sportsman. JMO
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Post by: flintlockgirl on April 06, 2016, 04:52:34 PM
If I had 300 dollars, I would put tires on my own truck not a turkeys butt.LOL. IM not sure those would be legal in PA, I'm thinking no.
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Post by: Marc on April 06, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
I 100% agree but isn't that the point of buying Turkey tags? To kill a turkey if not I would just be a photographer, I understand the point of enjoying the woods and experience but some people don't have time or taking along their kid and might want this device to increase their odds in killing a Turkey and great way to keep a kid calm too by letting them control it, anyways isn't my preferred way to hunt but I don't judge.

I respectfully disagree...

As ethical sportsmen, we are (or should be) stewards of the sport.  Make sure than hunting remains ethical, and that we correctly utilize the resource.  Part of that involves education future generations of proper ethics and morals when taking them into the field with us.

When my father and grandfather took me hunting, they took great care to encourage and teach ethics;  not only with hunting, but life in general.  It was always taught to me that there is more to hunting than killing something, and that the challenge and fun of hunting is far more satisfying when utilizing proper ethics.

I take both my daughters fishing (3 and 5 years old), and I take my oldest daughter hunting with me.  I take them on trips in which I know there will be some action, and when I know that I can entertain them in other ways.  I would hope that most people enveloped in the hunting community would not take our child out simply to kill something irregardless of the means used (legal or not).

When we take our kids hunting with the bottom line of killing something, I do not think we do them or the future generations of hunting any good at all...  NOT at all.

.
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Post by: Gobble! on April 06, 2016, 05:19:28 PM
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Post by: TrackeySauresRex on April 06, 2016, 05:25:34 PM
^^^  :TooFunny:
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Post by: WNCTracker on April 06, 2016, 06:04:44 PM
The video game generation has gotten old enough to enter the labor force
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Post by: WNCTracker on April 06, 2016, 06:07:25 PM
Quote from: GobbleNut on April 06, 2016, 02:43:28 PM
I'm developing a cannon net system that you just shoot over the roost tree at night.  The next morning you go in there, sort through all of 'em, and keep the ones you want,....don't even have to fire a shot!  Should run about $500,...who wants to get on my pre-order list?

Of course, my "turkey trot line" that I had out a few years ago is also still available.  It is a bit easier.  Comes with 25 hooks.  You run your line out around your feeder or food plot, bait the hooks with corn, and come back after a while and collect your turkeys.  The only problem is that some of the hens swallow the hook and then you have to deal with that little issue.  But hey,...nobody's perfect...
;D ;D ;D :newmascot: :newmascot: :newmascot: ;D ;D ;D
X2 on the cannon net
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Post by: SteelerFan on April 06, 2016, 06:33:35 PM
I'll just say, Id rather NOT kill a bird without this "decoy", than kill one with it.
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Post by: Greg Massey on April 06, 2016, 06:40:18 PM
I like the deer blind next to the tree in one of the videos better than the decoy..
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Post by: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 06:44:28 PM
Quote from: Marc on April 06, 2016, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
I 100% agree but isn't that the point of buying Turkey tags? To kill a turkey if not I would just be a photographer, I understand the point of enjoying the woods and experience but some people don't have time or taking along their kid and might want this device to increase their odds in killing a Turkey and great way to keep a kid calm too by letting them control it, anyways isn't my preferred way to hunt but I don't judge.

I respectfully disagree...

As ethical sportsmen, we are (or should be) stewards of the sport.  Make sure than hunting remains ethical, and that we correctly utilize the resource.  Part of that involves education future generations of proper ethics and morals when taking them into the field with us.

When my father and grandfather took me hunting, they took great care to encourage and teach ethics;  not only with hunting, but life in general.  It was always taught to me that there is more to hunting than killing something, and that the challenge and fun of hunting is far more satisfying when utilizing proper ethics.

I take both my daughters fishing (3 and 5 years old), and I take my oldest daughter hunting with me.  I take them on trips in which I know there will be some action, and when I know that I can entertain them in other ways.  I would hope that most people enveloped in the hunting community would not take our child out simply to kill something irregardless of the means used (legal or not).

When we take our kids hunting with the bottom line of killing something, I do not think we do them or the future generations of hunting any good at all...  NOT at all.

.

Totally agree and there's not one thing I disagreed with about your statement, I love traditional style of hunting and the reward is worth the challenge and I don't condone any unethical actions and i try to teach hunters right from wrong when I see something unethical, but some people will do what they do and ain't much that will change that.
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Post by: Cutt on April 06, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
Decoys today are getting out of hand, what will be next? Mounting your shotgun to the remote unit riding up to a Tom and triggering a shot with your cell phone? Any decoy utilizing electronics should be banned in my opinion.

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Post by: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Quote from: Cutt on April 06, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
Decoys today are getting out of hand, what will be next? Mounting your shotgun to the remote unit riding up to a Tom and triggering a shot with your cell phone? Any decoy utilizing electronics should be banned in my opinion.



Think the military already came up with that. I seen on the Outdoor channel disabled vet hunter used a gun that is hooked up to a computer, pretty neat idea for a wounded vet but really feel for him though not being able to expierence shouldering the gun and taking the animal your self... Glad there are people giving our vets these opportunities.
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Post by: Happy on April 06, 2016, 07:28:58 PM
I don't like the way things have been heading for several years now. In my opinion the kill has taken priority over the hunt. Personally the struggle is what makes the success sweet. Anyone can kill a turkey. There are a lot of people who have done that and never actually hunted. I would challenge people to think about this. If you knew that you would bust your rear end all season long and never kill a bird would you still do it?
As hunters we owe it to quarry to give it a fair chance. Do do otherwise would be a huge dishonor. Unfortunately almost everyone today looks for the easiest way to get what they want and to heck with the details. This is saddening but I fear it is only going to get worse. We should be modeling ourselves as hunters and caretakers not bloodthirsty teenagers who just want to kill something. We are in the public eye, like it or not and I would hope what we are all chasing isn't just a bloody carcass and bragging rights to make us feel manly. What a person believes is their right. Just something to think about.
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Post by: Cutt on April 06, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
Quote from: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Think the military already came up with that. I seen on the Outdoor channel disabled vet hunter used a gun that is hooked up to a computer, pretty neat idea for a wounded vet but really feel for him though not being able to expierence shouldering the gun and taking the animal your self... Glad there are people giving our vets these opportunities.

I can understand that, but I was basically thinking of hunters who are more than capable of hunting.
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Post by: M Sharpe on April 06, 2016, 08:52:30 PM
They market this stuff because they know turkey hunters as a general rule will do anything to kill a turkey!!! It is not about the hunt anymore, it is about the kill!! Most think if they don't kill their limit, then they haven't succeeded as a turkey hunter. In the past there have been several years I did not kill my limit, for one reason or another. What in the world ever happened to plain ol' turkey hunting?? Now I know the market hunters all but wiped the turkeys off the map, with their baiting and killing multiple birds with one shot; however, they weren't giving high-fives and strutting around in front of a video camera. These kind of gimmicks just cheapen the hunt!! We live in a world where everyone thinks they deserve a trophy!!!
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Post by: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: Cutt on April 06, 2016, 07:38:15 PM
Quote from: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 07:23:14 PM
Think the military already came up with that. I seen on the Outdoor channel disabled vet hunter used a gun that is hooked up to a computer, pretty neat idea for a wounded vet but really feel for him though not being able to expierence shouldering the gun and taking the animal your self... Glad there are people giving our vets these opportunities.

I can understand that, but I was basically thinking of hunters who are more than capable of hunting.

I know, I was going off subject for a moment.
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Post by: Marc on April 06, 2016, 10:31:42 PM
Quote from: Cutt on April 06, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
Decoys today are getting out of hand, what will be next? Mounting your shotgun to the remote unit riding up to a Tom and triggering a shot with your cell phone? Any decoy utilizing electronics should be banned in my opinion.
I could not agree more...  I would love to see the hard line drawn with electronics for all game bird hunting... 
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Post by: deerbasshunter3 on April 07, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
This is most definitely illegal in South Carolina. I put this up there with the fanning method.

I remember sitting against a tree the other day with a jake making his way to us (we never saw him but we could hear him getting closer) and thinking how exciting it was with just the anticipation of it. This "decoy" would take all of that fun out of it.

How desperate can a person be to feel like they need to not only use a remote controlled decoy to hunt, but to drop $300 on it in the first place. How many marriages will be on the rocks when desperate "hunters" start buying this thing?
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Post by: deerbasshunter3 on April 07, 2016, 11:33:12 AM
I couldn't help it, I wrote a review on the BPS website. As I mentioned in the review, I am starting to see why Cabela's is getting more and more of my business.
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Post by: Cutt on April 07, 2016, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: NYlogbeards on April 06, 2016, 09:17:46 PM
I know, I was going off subject for a moment.

Nothing wrong there, wasn't aware of that, good to know.
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Post by: Cutt on April 07, 2016, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Marc on April 06, 2016, 10:31:42 PM
I could not agree more...  I would love to see the hard line drawn with electronics for all game bird hunting...

Yes, with todays technology if left open to anything, what will be next? Flying decoys aided with drones strapped to them?
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Post by: OldSchool on April 07, 2016, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: Happy on April 06, 2016, 07:28:58 PM
I don't like the way things have been heading for several years now. In my opinion the kill has taken priority over the hunt. Personally the struggle is what makes the success sweet. Anyone can kill a turkey. There are a lot of people who have done that and never actually hunted. I would challenge people to think about this. If you knew that you would bust your rear end all season long and never kill a bird would you still do it?
As hunters we owe it to quarry to give it a fair chance. Do do otherwise would be a huge dishonor. Unfortunately almost everyone today looks for the easiest way to get what they want and to heck with the details. This is saddening but I fear it is only going to get worse. We should be modeling ourselves as hunters and caretakers not bloodthirsty teenagers who just want to kill something. We are in the public eye, like it or not and I would hope what we are all chasing isn't just a bloody carcass and bragging rights to make us feel manly. What a person believes is their right. Just something to think about.

Very well said and I couldn't agree with you more. Thank you. :icon_thumright:

Bob
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Post by: Cutt on April 07, 2016, 01:33:11 PM
Quote from: Happy on April 06, 2016, 07:28:58 PM
I don't like the way things have been heading for several years now. In my opinion the kill has taken priority over the hunt. Personally the struggle is what makes the success sweet. Anyone can kill a turkey. There are a lot of people who have done that and never actually hunted. I would challenge people to think about this. If you knew that you would bust your rear end all season long and never kill a bird would you still do it?

Very true, often wondered how many turkey hunters would actually be out there, if they truly had to bust their rear all Season, with no gauantee's?
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Post by: mike103 on April 07, 2016, 01:35:49 PM
It's called a free market.

You can vote with your wallet.
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Post by: davisd9 on April 07, 2016, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: deerbasshunter3 on April 07, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
This is most definitely illegal in South Carolina. I put this up there with the fanning method.

I remember sitting against a tree the other day with a jake making his way to us (we never saw him but we could hear him getting closer) and thinking how exciting it was with just the anticipation of it. This "decoy" would take all of that fun out of it.

How desperate can a person be to feel like they need to not only use a remote controlled decoy to hunt, but to drop $300 on it in the first place. How many marriages will be on the rocks when desperate "hunters" start buying this thing?

Not a fan of it but it is not true it is illegal in SC. The only thing the regs say about decoys is they cannot be live and the only thing about electronics is no electronic calls.
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Post by: OldSchool on April 07, 2016, 02:45:43 PM
It could have It's uses. Like running one back and forth across a field at different times on a couple different days, down the road a ways from where you'll be hunting. ;D 

Bob
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Post by: g8rvet on April 07, 2016, 08:43:58 PM
I have one and it has been a great addition to my arsenal for turkey hunting.  It makes my personal video production company more likely to be successful so I can stand over the dead bird and scream "Yeah!  Whacking and stacking from us here at WhackerStacker Productions".   Don't be haters. We are natural born turkey whacking studs baby.  My videos go on sale next month.  Our reaping series was a big hit.  Almost as big as our "Walking Cow Decoy" series where we WHACK and STACK Snow geese baby. Oh yeah.  I am working on a single controlled version now and deploying 300 full body snow geese stuffers to walk the flock in to our blinds.  Start with them 1000 yards away and walk them in for some serious WHACKING AND STACKING baby. 

Sign up now for the videos.  We will pre-release them on college campuses around the country.  55.95 for Blue Ray High Def DVD.  We have several rap groups that are vying to supply us with the sound track.  ToneDefSnoopyDude is the leading candidate.  Check us out at I'llDoAnythingToMakeABuck.org. 
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Post by: greentag on April 08, 2016, 05:54:36 PM
i actually saw one of those things a few years ago at nashville,someone was driving one around there,i thought that they had made it themselves and it was just like a joke,or something turkey related to play with while there,guess i was wrong.im not one to typically judge,but enough is enough,nashville use to be filled with custom call makers and awesome custom calls that i drooled over each year,seems the last 4 or 5 years that the small great call builders has not been getting booths,and the whole place is filled with flat screens showing the lastest greatest things to bushwack a turkey.i am glad that thing will be outlawed here in ky,no electronic devices of any sorts.i want to go back to the way things use to be.booths full of talanted callmakers,rows and rows of calls,not umberellas,huge fans a family of 5 can hide behind and now this.whats sad is people just starting to turkey hunt will think that this stuff is cool and  thats the way to hunt,not just getting out there you and the bird one on one,getting your butt kicked over and over but learning each and every trip out.untill you finally make it happen,and what a feeling you get of knowing you took the king of the woods the right way,cant wait til some ol redneck sees one of these running around and gives it a face full of 5's,as long as no one is around the stupid thing and gets hurt of course.
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Post by: Cut N Run on April 08, 2016, 06:33:18 PM
Personally, I want two of 'em, so I could race against my buddy when things got slow. 

Jim
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Post by: tomstopper on April 09, 2016, 07:39:10 AM
Quote from: Cut N Run on April 08, 2016, 06:33:18 PM
Personally, I want two of 'em, so I could race against my buddy when things got slow. 

Jim
Never thought of that....lol
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Post by: Trax on April 09, 2016, 11:33:09 AM
I say good, go for it.

I hope more turkey hunters go for the gobbler loungers, the big roomy blinds, the animatronic decoys, and whatever else ties them down. The more guys who think setting up on the edge of some ag field and unloading all their toys is their kind of turkey hunting, the more room there'll be on the ridge tops and the river bottoms for guys like me.

Live and let live. Look for the positive and keep moving.
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Post by: tha bugman on April 10, 2016, 03:57:55 AM
My kids would love it!


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