I ordered a few new mouth calls the other day and one of the ones I wanted to try was the masters choice. For those of you that have this call I was wondering if the call I got was supposed to look like this? The reeds are kind of rolled and one side of the reed near the front of the call the latex doesn't go to the end of the metal like the other side. So is this normal? Don't pay any attention to writing on the call, I just labeled it to keep it separate from others.
Thanks
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That's a sad looking mouth call. Whoever built that didn't do a good job.
I hadn't ever saw one like this but I figured I would ask on here before I said something was wrong with it. The masters choice seems to be one that a lot of people like.
It sure does not look like that in the advertising picture.
https://www.midwestturkeycall.com/diaphragm-calls/345-gulvas-masters-choice-diaphragm-call.html
It is apparently a 2.5 reed with some sort of "special spacer" in the reed (whatever that means). Maybe the spacer creates some issues when stretching the latex?
My question would be if you are happy with the sound the call makes? If so, keep it. If not, send that picture to whoever you bought the call from and ask for a replacement.
What Marc said. I don't care how pretty a call looks, the important thing is how it sounds. Having said that, that particular call was definitely not put together properly,...or the reed material slipped. Those reeds look like proph material, which are more prone to slipping/wrinkling than the thicker latex. So, if it doesn't sound good to you, send it back and get it replaced. I'm sure Gulvas will be happy to do so.
Gulvas makes great mouth calls, all mine look like that mainly because he only uses side tension. For the comments saying the maker didn't do a good job, you obviously dont know Denny Gulvas.
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I appreciate all of the info that everyone has given me about this call. I will spend some time running the call and see if it has a negative effect on the sound. Thanks again to all that replied.
It looks defective but that wouldn't bother me as long as it produces quality sound.
That's exactly how it's supposed to look!
Give yourself plenty of time to get familiar with running it, that is probably the most realistic mouth call on the market!
Looks pretty similar to mine:
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Quote from: PALongspur on March 29, 2016, 08:39:12 PM
That's exactly how it's supposed to look!
Give yourself plenty of time to get familiar with running it, that is probably the most realistic mouth call on the market!
This ^^^^^
I have run Gulvas calls since the mid 80's and it is all the call you will ever need. It has a true rasp unlike all the calls that have funky cuts and mistakenly think the latex rattle is rasp. It is not. ;)
As stated that is the way he designed it. He may be the most realistic turkey caller ever. The best of the best want to sound like Gulvas. If you are on Facebook look up Matt Van Cise running Gulvas calls.
Quote from: drenalinld on March 30, 2016, 07:39:10 PM
As stated that is the way he designed it. He may be the most realistic turkey caller ever. The best of the best want to sound like Gulvas. If you are on Facebook look up Matt Van Cise running Gulvas calls.
Totally agree. I've often said he's the best caller I've ever heard, period.
I called against his son Brian years ago and he definitely got the old man's talent!
I'm a Gulvas Masters Choice newbie (friend set me up ;) ). Here is what I've discovered with this call:
- Comes out of the package with rippled reeds. Looks like it's "blown out", but it's not!
- Takes A LOT LESS air to run it. If you run it like a stiff 3 reed combo, it's not gonna sound right.
- With no cuts, the control of this call is more "tongue" (for me, anyway).
With the call in place, you can apply pressure with the tongue raising up enough to get a kee kee. Drop the tongue pressure some, and regulate the yelp with the tongue cutting airflow at each yelp as you run it. A good seal against the roof of your mouth with light air huffed and controlled with the tongue produces some pretty awesome raspy yelps - even though there aren't any cuts.
Remembering, as with ALL diaphragms, that the air is running UNDER the call and OVER your tongue helped me mentally adjust pretty quickly.
Denny makes a great call and yes he makes them with ripples in the reeds. He does that on purpose. There is a lot of throat calling while using his calls but they are all turkey.
Joe
Now I don't really know Deny but we've talked a couple times. He's a great guy and very knowledgeable. He as a call maker has some very strong opinions about call construction and design. I as a call builder understand his point of view and although I don't adhere to his opinions I do understand them and I can't say he's wrong, but only he has a different approach.
I'm sure Denny makes a great mouth call, and this particular one may be a great one. Only the guy that runs it will know for sure. That is the problem with mouth calls, you can "test" them before they go to the buyer. Whether that particular call is capable of producing great turkey sounds would be very hard to say. Everybody that makes mouth calls makes duds on occasion. The call-making process is to imprecise to be able to avoid that.
Having said all of that, either the proph slipped a bit after it was crimped, or Denny did not get the reeds up tight on one side of the call when he crimped it. You can see by looking at the call that the reeds are at an angle to the front of the call. That sometimes would make no difference in the sound the call can produce, but it might, especially in the hands of someone that is not as proficient at running a mouth call as Denny Gulvas or others of his caliber, and especially with someone who might not know how to go about modifying a mouth call to find the "turkey" in it.
As a call maker myself that sells a few calls each year, if I sold a call that looked like that and the buyer contacted me indicating that he could not get good sound out of it, I would replace it without question. Of course, I would also not be surprised if someone told me the call looked ugly,...but sounded great.
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Quote from: PALongspur on March 30, 2016, 07:46:07 PM
Quote from: drenalinld on March 30, 2016, 07:39:10 PM
As stated that is the way he designed it. He may be the most realistic turkey caller ever. The best of the best want to sound like Gulvas. If you are on Facebook look up Matt Van Cise running Gulvas calls.
Totally agree. I've often said he's the best caller I've ever heard, period.
I called against his son Brian years ago and he definitely got the old man's talent!
:agreed: :icon_thumright: Denny is by far the best caller I have ever heard. Lots of guys sound like turkeys, but Gulvas becomes a turkey.